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Moved on to what? We might be done for the summer. I'm not sure what people expect from the club? A statement to confirm whether we have moved on/will sign anybody else?
They won’t make a statement, but they understand PR. If we’re done for the summer then there would be a heavy PR bombardment, through a journalist brief. Zero chance we’re simply done for the summer, it doesn’t work like that. The silence is deafening, we’re working on something for sure but it doesn’t mean it’ll happen.
 

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Hypothetically, let's say Dortmund decided to sell him to United at the last minute, where do you think you would stand in terms of the team? Would it create a massive hole or you already see someone stepping up to fill the void in case he leaves?
They could probably get by in theory, but if they have the faintest glimmer of ambition beyond just making top4 then they would need to sign a star wide player.
 

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Maybe he knew but it was embargoed? Don't forget, he works for the press, there are lots of things they know and aren't allowed to talk about. If Dortmund didn't want anyone to know about it then how would anyone find out?

I don't think anyone is saying it's a massive scoop but he's the only person who isn't making stuff up, and when he first Tweeted that at the beginning of August it was big news, now we're just tired of hearing it.
Tbf he clearly has inside info with some stuff (Serie A) but it doesn't tend to be these deals in particular is all i'm saying. I think he's used several situations to boost his followers and mentions for sure. And to be fair to the guy it's worked.

Don't believe he has any info on this one though which is why he's remained very cautious and on the fence. And his reaction to the extension clause being activated on the day made it seem he didn't know about it either like nobody else did.

People used to act the act same way with Di Marzio and then it all fell apart with him too. They clearly know more than the typical man in the street but nowhere near as much as they claim. It's educated guess work and smoke n mirrors mostly.
 

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He'll still have 2 years on his contract then, with a EURO to shine in at at the horizon. Are you sure nobody other than Utd might be in for him?
I know its unlikely but if he has a poor season then chances are his value would dip slightly. Or there is a chance teams might just say leave it another year and go for free. So yes, there is a chance, though very very slim at that, Dortmund won't get as much next season or he might leave for free in a couple of years
 

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Ivan Perišić is not staying at Bayern. Just saying.
Would he be willing to go on another loan? It's because that's the only way I could see Ole on board with that given he doesn't fit the profile of mostly younger players we've been targeting since he took over
 

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Tbf he clearly has inside info with some stuff (Serie A) but it doesn't tend to be these deals in particular is all i'm saying. I think he's used several situations to boost his followers and mentions for sure. And to be fair to the guy it's worked.

Don't believe he has any info on this one though which is why he's remained very cautious and on the fence. And his reaction to the extension clause being activated on the day made it seem he didn't know about it either like nobody else did.

People used to act the act same way with Di Marzio and then it all fell apart with him too. They clearly know more than the typical man in the street but nowhere near as much as they claim. It's educated guess work and smoke n mirrors mostly.
What happened with Di Marzio, where did it go wrong?
 

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Would he be willing to go on another loan? It's because that's the only way I could see Ole on board with that given he doesn't fit the profile of mostly younger players we've been targeting since he took over
I'd say probably yes, he needs game time before Euros and doesn't suit Conte's style so I'm not sure they'll want to keep him.
 

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What happened with Di Marzio, where did it go wrong?
It was either last summer or the one before and he went big on several mega moves that didn't come off. He lost a lot of followers and credibility and as since has been much quieter. Seems young Romano has stepped up to fill the role though.

These guys aren't completely full of it and definitely do hear things but they don't know everything they claim I don't think. Dortmund CEO coming out that day and saying that Sancho had agreed a 1 year extension last season took them all by surprise.
 

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Everything was quite positive last night, was it really false hope? Unless the glazers sold some shares while the stock was high? Never know with those crafty sods
 

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He's another one that I would take despite the age thing and probably shows my desperation to sign any wide player this summer
He played pretty well for Bayern. IF we can't get Sancho this summer he'd make a great back up, can play both wings also.

We need to stop turning our noses down to these types of players that are genuinely helpful. Bayern and other clubs don't do that if they need a spot filling.
 

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It was either last summer or the one before and he went big on several mega moves that didn't come off. He lost a lot of followers and credibility and as since has been much quieter. Seems young Romano has stepped up to fill the role though.

These guys aren't completely full of it and definitely do hear things but they don't know everything they claim I don't think. Dortmund CEO coming out that day and saying that Sancho had agreed a 1 year extension last season took them all by surprise.
It seems fame got to his head so he needs to get it back slowly. Romano should be careful, he could easily go that way.
 

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It was either last summer or the one before and he went big on several mega moves that didn't come off. He lost a lot of followers and credibility and as since has been much quieter. Seems young Romano has stepped up to fill the role though.

These guys aren't completely full of it and definitely do hear things but they don't know everything they claim I don't think. Dortmund CEO coming out that day and saying that Sancho had agreed a 1 year extension last season took them all by surprise.
Doesn't Romano work for Di Marzio?
 

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He played pretty well for Bayern. IF we can't get Sancho this summer he'd make a great back up, can play both wings also.

We need to stop turning our noses down to these types of players that are genuinely helpful. Bayern and other clubs don't do that if they need a spot filling.
Exactly, as poster below yours said he'd be dead cheap and a good option from the bench. Getting him shouldn't exclude a move for Sancho.
 

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I still stand by what i posted on the 10th of August.. "The whole Sancho saga has the makings of becoming one of the most unsavoury episodes in the history of RedCafe transfer muppetry".. :( :eek:
 

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Btw for those of you saying Greenwood wouldnt be displaced if we get Sancho they said they same thing when we got Zlatan and then Sanchez. Oh hes not going to hurt Martial's development, it will all be fine. Now clearly this is a much different situation and Sancho would be here long term and no Zlatan wasnt a bad buy but people just acting like Sancho wouldnt disrupt what we have going I think thats delusional.
If you are planning to spend 120 mil on him then its guaranteed that both short term and long term one of our front 3 will be displaced. Short term it would likely be Greenwood, long term Martial though I'd argue should be Rashford both short term and long term.

Sometimes honestly I feel you can have too much of a good thing. Look at Barca with Messi and Griezman.
Dont get me wrong we would make it work but all Im saying is, its not the end of the world if we dont get Sancho.
Contrary to popular belief right wing isnt a position of weakness and our 3 most promising players are strikers, the most promising one playing on the right wing as an inside forward.

Thats why Im perfectly fine if we dont get Sancho but we strengthen our CB, full backs and the bench. Hence the likes of David Brooks and Perisic are appealing to me.
 

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It was either last summer or the one before and he went big on several mega moves that didn't come off. He lost a lot of followers and credibility and as since has been much quieter. Seems young Romano has stepped up to fill the role though.

These guys aren't completely full of it and definitely do hear things but they don't know everything they claim I don't think. Dortmund CEO coming out that day and saying that Sancho had agreed a 1 year extension last season took them all by surprise.
Totally agree with you. I've been calling out Romano for months.

It's bizarre the following they have, all Romano does is confirm something once a reliable source/s has confirmed something, the exact manner in which he confirmed VDB.

It's like people hang on his every word and won't believe things until he confirms it.

Any of us here could have announced VDB after that reliable/connected Journo did so, it's totally underwhelming what he does.

I posted in either this thread or another, asking to be proved wrong and have somebody provide a list of actual breaking news / confirmation of a transfer that's come from him and nobody else first. I had no reply so I still stand to be corrected on my opinion of him.
 

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Btw for those of you saying Greenwood wouldnt be displaced if we get Sancho they said they same thing when we got Zlatan. Oh hes not going to hurt Martial's development, it will all be fine. Now clearly this is a much different situation and Sancho would be here long term and no Zlatan wasnt a bad buy but people just acting like Sancho wouldnt disrupt what we have going I think thats delusional.
If you are planning to spend 120 mil on him then its guaranteed that both short term and long term one of our front 3 will be displaced. Short term it would likely be Greenwood, long term Martial though I'd argue should be Rashford both short term and long term.

Sometimes honestly I feel you can have too much of a good thing. Look at Barca with Messi and Griezman.
Dont get me wrong we would make it work but all Im saying is, its not the end of the world if we dont get Sancho.
Contrary to popular belief right wing isnt a position of weakness and our 3 most promising players are strikers, the most promising one playing on the right wing as an inside forward.

Thats why Im perfectly fine if we dont get Sancho but we strengthen our CB, full backs and the bench. Hence the likes of David Brooks and Perisic are appealing to me.
In a 60 game season, four players competing for 3 positions can all start 45 matches and have 15 sub appearances.

We have room for all four.
 

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Totally agree with you. I've been calling out Romano for months.

It's bizarre the following they have, all Romano does is confirm something once a reliable source/s has confirmed something, the exact manner in which he confirmed VDB.

It's like people hang on his every word and won't believe things until he confirms it.

Any of us here could have announced VDB after that reliable/connected Journo did so, it's totally underwhelming what he does.

I posted in either this thread or another, asking to be proved wrong and have somebody provide a list of actual breaking news / confirmation of a transfer that's come from him and nobody else first. I had no reply so I still stand to be corrected on my opinion of him.
Like I said he's not 100% full of shit but he is a little bit. It's pretty sneaky what he does at times and less experienced transfer muppets fall for it.

The way he went on with Van de Beek the other week when he clearly had no idea about that deal was funny. People will lap it up though because it's what they want to hear.
 

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Totally agree with you. I've been calling out Romano for months.

It's bizarre the following they have, all Romano does is confirm something once a reliable source/s has confirmed something, the exact manner in which he confirmed VDB.

It's like people hang on his every word and won't believe things until he confirms it.

Any of us here could have announced VDB after that reliable/connected Journo did so, it's totally underwhelming what he does.

I posted in either this thread or another, asking to be proved wrong and have somebody provide a list of actual breaking news / confirmation of a transfer that's come from him and nobody else first. I had no reply so I still stand to be corrected on my opinion of him.
I can't think of examples (so i can't prove you wrong) - but i know that I've heard about Italian-based transfers from Romano before anyone else.

When it comes to what's happening involving Italian Clubs, I would be inclined to believe it. So I trust his updates on Smalling-Roma, for example, are well sourced from the Roma side.

But the problem for me is that he then tries to have a word on every major transfer. Not even the Worlds leading agents, or Worlds leading Clubs have information on EVERY major transfer that happens. If it's regarding a deal between United and a French/German/Spanish Club - I'd take note, but not take it too seriously.
 

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Btw for those of you saying Greenwood wouldnt be displaced if we get Sancho they said they same thing when we got Zlatan and then Sanchez. Oh hes not going to hurt Martial's development, it will all be fine. Now clearly this is a much different situation and Sancho would be here long term and no Zlatan wasnt a bad buy but people just acting like Sancho wouldnt disrupt what we have going I think thats delusional.
If you are planning to spend 120 mil on him then its guaranteed that both short term and long term one of our front 3 will be displaced. Short term it would likely be Greenwood, long term Martial though I'd argue should be Rashford both short term and long term.

Sometimes honestly I feel you can have too much of a good thing. Look at Barca with Messi and Griezman.
Dont get me wrong we would make it work but all Im saying is, its not the end of the world if we dont get Sancho.
Contrary to popular belief right wing isnt a position of weakness and our 3 most promising players are strikers, the most promising one playing on the right wing as an inside forward.

Thats why Im perfectly fine if we dont get Sancho but we strengthen our CB, full backs and the bench. Hence the likes of David Brooks and Perisic are appealing to me.
We play in 4 competitions, over 60 games. There will be space for all of them + other ones. You need to have a strong squad. We are 2 injuries away from starting James and Lingard again.

It literally happened just last season. Some of you never learn...
 

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Btw for those of you saying Greenwood wouldnt be displaced if we get Sancho they said they same thing when we got Zlatan and then Sanchez. Oh hes not going to hurt Martial's development, it will all be fine. Now clearly this is a much different situation and Sancho would be here long term and no Zlatan wasnt a bad buy but people just acting like Sancho wouldnt disrupt what we have going I think thats delusional.
If you are planning to spend 120 mil on him then its guaranteed that both short term and long term one of our front 3 will be displaced. Short term it would likely be Greenwood, long term Martial though I'd argue should be Rashford both short term and long term.

Sometimes honestly I feel you can have too much of a good thing. Look at Barca with Messi and Griezman.
Dont get me wrong we would make it work but all Im saying is, its not the end of the world if we dont get Sancho.
Contrary to popular belief right wing isnt a position of weakness and our 3 most promising players are strikers, the most promising one playing on the right wing as an inside forward.

Thats why Im perfectly fine if we dont get Sancho but we strengthen our CB, full backs and the bench. Hence the likes of David Brooks and Perisic are appealing to me.
Did you just say RW isn't a position of weakness?????
Where have you been man????
 

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No it isn't. This is looking at things through a microscope. If tomorrow we sign Coman, a LB and a CB this statement looks silly. Anything can happen while the window is open so there's no point in making sweeping statements until it does.

Also, Dortmund will not get more for Sancho next summer, they know it, we know it, everyone knows it.
I think you've misunderstood. I mean football leagues, cups, Champions League etc in general will be a shambles. I have no doubt we will still make some good signings and improve on last season.
 
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Did you just say RW isn't a position of weakness?????
Where have you been man????
Yea the entire reason we have an 18 y/o as the starter there and are linked with a mega money move for one is because that position has been a glaring black hole for close to a decade now :lol:
 

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Wow Romano really dropped the ball in his podcast.
 

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I can't think of examples (so i can't prove you wrong) - but i know that I've heard about Italian-based transfers from Romano before anyone else.

When it comes to what's happening involving Italian Clubs, I would be inclined to believe it. So I trust his updates on Smalling-Roma, for example, are well sourced from the Roma side.

But the problem for me is that he then tries to have a word on every major transfer. Not even the Worlds leading agents, or Worlds leading Clubs have information on EVERY major transfer that happens. If it's regarding a deal between United and a French/German/Spanish Club - I'd take note, but not take it too seriously.
Yeah I'd agree with that. I mean it makes sense for him to be more connected on the Italian side of things but why people believe he has the inside track on every single transfer story is beyond me.

I posted before that he obviously has a few connections, most likely agents, but he tries to make out that he knows the inside scoop on every transfer and it's tedious.
 
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