Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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In the sense that it’s, at best, entertainment. You’re not supposed to believe what you’re seeing.
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I know wrestling can seem unbelievable some times but it's hardly lying like these ITK's do.
 

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Lads, this believing in Caf ITKs is all a bit adult-who-still-watches-wrestling.
Funnily enough there are a couple of Athletic journalists who have a big wrestling interest and join WWE podcasts I think :lol:
 

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Just a matter of time now. You love to see it:drool:
 

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He’s as confident as @altodevil
Having listened to the interview, it seems like he’s not as close to Sancho as we think. Well I wouldn’t regard him as a “close friend”. In the video he talks about when he “interviewed Sancho about a year ago”. And other comments he makes doesn’t quite seem like he’s one of his boys.
 

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Kagawa - nothing
Mkhitaryan - The fat man started throwing chairs around, not the player.
Aubameyang - Skipped a team meeting
Dembele - said: "To be honest, this speculation doesn't interest me at all," he said. "I like being here in Dortmund and I decided to join Dortmund after my time at Rennes consciously." Then got into a training ground bust up with a goalkeeper before leaving.

Hardly caused fecking ruptions before leaving did they?
You can agitate for a move without causing ruptions. Dembele actually went AWOL because Dortmund rebuffed all offers from Barca.

These guys are very stubborn and the player will have to ask to leave which I believe is a possibility.
 

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What ITK connections does @altodevil claim to have and does he have any previous in being correct?
Apparently a mate at the Guardian who has got things so badly wrong that last week even altodevil concluded he was taking the piss.

I think he’s at it myself as he keeps giving up then creeping back every so often claiming new info.

It’s a classic discredited ITK tactic.
 

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Kagawa - nothing
Mkhitaryan - The fat man started throwing chairs around, not the player.
Aubameyang - Skipped a team meeting
Dembele - said: "To be honest, this speculation doesn't interest me at all," he said. "I like being here in Dortmund and I decided to join Dortmund after my time at Rennes consciously." Then got into a training ground bust up with a goalkeeper before leaving.

Hardly caused fecking ruptions before leaving did they?
I don’t think Sancho would have to shit on their desk or anything. I think it would just be a more professional formal discussion. He or his people have to say I don’t want to be hear anymore, I want to go to United so he looks kike the bad guy to the fans. They aren’t going to want to keep someone who doesn’t want to be there, it’s bad for everyone. So long as they get handsomely compensated.
 

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Having listened to the interview, it seems like he’s not as close to Sancho as we think. Well I wouldn’t regard him as a “close friend”. In the video he talks about when he “interviewed Sancho about a year ago”. And other comments he makes doesn’t quite seem like he’s one of his boys.
Yeah he definitely isn't some close friend of Sancho, they just know each other and get on.
 

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I was told Dortmund were signing winger replacement before Sancho move confirmed. They reckoned that would be early next week - similar to what was planned beforehand, Monday or Tuesday announcement. Hence why Dortmund signing tonight, or tomorrow to pre-empt.

That's what stalled intial agreement ages ago - Ikone fell through so Dortmund renegd.

Reason it was on again is because they got replacement lined up (see the messages I got yesterday). Assumed Ikone again? Dortmund have got a replacement sorted though, that is why the deal is back on.

Very very sure it will follow this sort of timeline of events and dates. Same info as was given last time for what that means/worth?
 

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I was told Dortmund were signing winger replacement before Sancho move confirmed. They reckoned that would be early next week - similar to what was planned beforehand, Monday or Tuesday announcement. Hence why Dortmund signing tonight, or tomorrow to pre-empt.

That's what stalled intial agreement ages ago - Ikone fell through so Dortmund renegd.

Reason it was on again is because they got replacement lined up (see the messages I got yesterday). Assumed Ikone again? Dortmund have got a replacement sorted though, that is why the deal is back on.

Very very sure it will follow this sort of timeline of events and dates. Same info as was given last time for what that means/worth?
I'm going to join in on this now.

Is this supposed replacement someone who'd directly enter the first team, be more of a squad player, or be a player for the future?
 

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You really reckon his followers will care?
Have you not seen the ITK accounts posting shite all year round still having thousands of followers?
Sancho might happen might not, but I can tell you for a fact Harry fecking Pinero knows feckall
Yeah but the difference is this isn’t some anonymous/faceless itk twitter profile. This guy is a minor celeb through his online videos and whatever else.

It just brings him negativity to put himself out there like that and be wrong. I’m not saying he knows for sure, but imo he definitely believes he knows (but there is a difference, I agree.)
 

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You can agitate for a move without causing ruptions. Dembele actually went AWOL because Dortmund rebuffed all offers from Barca.
These guys are very stubborn and the player will have to ask to leave which I believe is a possibility.
And you can agitate like a crazy man like Tevez at City by going AWOL into another country and still not get what you want :lol:
 

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I'm going to join in on this now.

Is this supposed replacement someone who'd directly enter the first team, be more of a squad player, or be a player for the future?
I have no idea other than they thought they had Ikone wrapped up to begin with - he would have been first team I believe.

Dortmund are a cnut of a club for English journos to get anything from though. Knowledge of the replacement issue being what caused it to fall through the first time has all been second-hand info from German colleagues. That's what I was told last month anyway.
 

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I have no idea other than they thought they had Ikone wrapped up to begin with - he would have been first team I believe.

Dortmund are a cnut of a club for English journos to get anything from though. Knowledge of the replacement issue being what caused it to fall through the first time has all been second-hand info from German colleagues. That's what I was told last month anyway.
So replacement tonight or tomorrow at latest?
 

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I have no idea other than they thought they had Ikone wrapped up to begin with - he would have been first team I believe.

Dortmund are a cnut of a club for English journos to get anything from though. Knowledge of the replacement issue being what caused it to fall through the first time has all been second-hand info from German colleagues. That's what I was told last month anyway.
Thats been floating around for weeks now, then went all quiet. Any idea why that impasse happened?
 

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He's a bullshitter.



2 days ago:

Yesterday:
Again, another one of you plonkers. The only people that truly know the state of these transfers are those negotiating them. There was no new information presented that suggested a deal of any kind until United brief yesterday. No shit I was told there was no inkling of a deal before that? There is no pretending here. I have a friend who works for a newspaper, he is not a United/Dortmund representative for Christ's sake.
 

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I was told Dortmund were signing winger replacement before Sancho move confirmed. They reckoned that would be early next week - similar to what was planned beforehand, Monday or Tuesday announcement. Hence why Dortmund signing tonight, or tomorrow to pre-empt.

That's what stalled intial agreement ages ago - Ikone fell through so Dortmund renegd.

Reason it was on again is because they got replacement lined up (see the messages I got yesterday). Assumed Ikone again? Dortmund have got a replacement sorted though, that is why the deal is back on.

Very very sure it will follow this sort of timeline of events and dates. Same info as was given last time for what that means/worth?
It was shite then and it’s shite now.

You’ve even said it yourself. At this point you’re taking the piss. Enjoy your ban.
 

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I have no idea other than they thought they had Ikone wrapped up to begin with - he would have been first team I believe.

Dortmund are a cnut of a club for English journos to get anything from though. Knowledge of the replacement issue being what caused it to fall through the first time has all been second-hand info from German colleagues. That's what I was told last month anyway.
Did the Guardian journalist get told that Ikone would be a replacement, or was this an educated guess?
 

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Again, another one of you plonkers. The only people that truly know the state of these transfers are those negotiating them. There was no new information presented that suggested a deal of any kind until United brief yesterday. No shit I was told there was no inkling of a deal before that? There is no pretending here. I have a friend who works for a newspaper, he is not a United/Dortmund representative for Christ's sake.
Then don’t state things so matter of factly if you get upset so easily.
 

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Again, another one of you plonkers. The only people that truly know the state of these transfers are those negotiating them. There was no new information presented that suggested a deal of any kind until United brief yesterday. No shit I was told there was no inkling of a deal before that? There is no pretending here. I have a friend who works for a newspaper, he is not a United/Dortmund representative for Christ's sake.
I would suggest you find a new friend mate. To claim Sancho is absolutely not coming this Summer and then say it's happening any day means you don't have a clue. We've got more information than your mate.
 

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Kagawa - nothing
Mkhitaryan - The fat man started throwing chairs around, not the player.
Aubameyang - Skipped a team meeting
Dembele - said: "To be honest, this speculation doesn't interest me at all," he said. "I like being here in Dortmund and I decided to join Dortmund after my time at Rennes consciously." Then got into a training ground bust up with a goalkeeper before leaving.

Hardly caused fecking ruptions before leaving did they?
Missed Dembele going awol have you?
Aubameyang was a bit more subtle. His coach at the time later said in an interview that for four weeks he would blow off team meetings before matches, show up late and refuse to run during training sessions, forcing himself to be dropped from the squad. He also said that Auba met with him to apologize after the transfer went through and he did the same on Twitter.

If Sancho does the same things could change indeed, but it won't be a PR stunt.
 

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Did the Guardian journalist get told that Ikone would be a replacement, or was this an educated guess?
Ikone was a name he was told right at the beginning. I suspect that will have come from same source as gave other Dortmund news? Could well have been a guess on someone else's part.
 

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Ikone was a name he was told right at the beginning. I suspect that will have come from same source as gave other Dortmund news? Could well have been a guess on someone else's part.
Interesting. The reason I asked about that is because Ikone's agent denied any contacts with Dortmund a couple of months ago. He was inquired by Ruhr Nachrichten (Dortmund newspaper), who were investigating the rumours at the time.
 

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Folk need to calm down. This is a football transfer. I'm not trying to cause psychotic breaks. I do not care to be known as an ITK, I'm strictly not one. In fact, I find it laughable that those muppetiers keep scrambling to copy what I say (and pm me on here). I'm merely passing on info I have on a United dealing, which I have never gotten before. It's meant to be for the benefit of us Muppets, not the detriment.
 
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