Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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People say there will be a lot of competitions next year, but forget that this pandemic is very likely going into next year.

Let Dortmund keep him for another year and see how they will cope financially with another year like this with no crowds and potential 2nd wave coming in this winter.
Haaland, Messi, Mbappe Amongst others also on market next summer
 
Absolute rubbish, but sure, if you say so. It's just extremely clear to me at this stage that we just can't justify such an outlay on a single player, if you feel otherwise, all power to you though
This would have been over long ago if we couldn’t afford this deal. There is no way Utd are walking away from this deal. When we don’t walk away from spunking £80m on Maguire, we sure as shit ain’t walking away from this one. Woodward is going to end up slapping the stacks on the table and walking out with his man.

It takes one lame article (which we get every time we sign someone) and people end up losing their shit.

Bookmark this. Sancho will be at Utd very soon.
 
This would have been long over if we couldn’t afford this deal. There is no way Utd are walking away from this deal. When we don’t walk away from spunking £80m on Maguire, we sure as shit ain’t walking away from this one. Woodward is going to end up slapping the stacks on the table and walking out with his man.

It takes one lame article (which we get every time we sign someone) and people end up losing their shit.

Bookmark this. Sancho will be at Utd very soon.

How much longer do you think this saga is going to drag on for then?
 
People say there will be a lot of competitions next year, but forget that this pandemic is very likely going into next year.

Let Dortmund keep him for another year and see how they will cope financially with another year like this with no crowds and potential 2nd wave coming in this winter.
This is the exact reason why Dortmund will be taking the cash and saying goodbye to Sancho this week.
 
How much longer do you think this saga is going to drag on for then?
Do not be surprised if it goes to the last day of the window. This is how we do business. The board will spend the money but not always as quick as we like. Ole will get his wish.
 
Do not be surprised if it goes to the last day of the window. This is how we do business. The board will spend the money but not always as quick as we like. Ole will get his wish.

Do you see any other business before it
 
Do you honestly believe we can still negotiate a better deal because personally can only see this happening by paying the required 120m euros in two maybe three instalments
Dortmund are stubborn; we won't be able to negotiate a much better deal. The only way we can slightly improve on this is if we add relatively easy add-ons to reach 120 million Euros. I doubt that we'd be able to do much better.

I guess the club are hoping that Sancho/his agent will somehow help out, but I doubt that'd even happen.
 
Haaland, Messi, Mbappe Amongst others also on market next summer

Yep - and there will be plenty of bargains next summer if the situation remains the same.

Keep the money in the bank, dive into the market just like buying in the stock market when prices are low.
 
Who would you want then?

Someone young at least and not a player that could or has fallen off a cliff like Sanchez. The idea of bringing back Depay is better than going for someone like Bale, at least there's a shred of hope it may work out.
 
Problem with getting someone else instead of Sancho, is that we're leaving him for Livepool, Chelsea or City to snap him next summer.
 
Dortmund are stubborn; we won't be able to negotiate a much better deal. The only way we can slightly improve on this is if we add relatively easy add-ons to reach 120 million Euros. I doubt that we'd be able to do much better.

I guess the club are hoping that Sancho/his agent will somehow help out, but I doubt that'd even happen.

They are going to tell us where to put those addons if we keep including that in an offer before long
 
Do you see any other business before it
I hope you aren't thinking that people who are expressing confidence or making educated guesses are ITKs. We're all just using the information given to us to make inferences or educated guesses at worst.
 
Someone young at least and not a player that could or has fallen off a cliff like Sanchez. The idea of bringing back Depay is better than going for someone like Bale, at least there's a shred of hope it may work out.

Who is realistically available though that fits the criteria and don't say Brooks
 
This would have been long over if we couldn’t afford this deal. There is no way Utd are walking away from this deal. When we don’t walk away from spunking £80m on Maguire, we sure as shit ain’t walking away from this one. Woodward is going to end up slapping the stacks on the table and walking out with his man.

It takes one lame article (which we get every time we sign someone) and people end up losing their shit.

Bookmark this. Sancho will be at Utd very soon.
Having muppetted here for a few years now, I'm pretty confident this one will happen, but again knowing United, towards the end of the window. Actually the signs were there since before the restart and was confident about this even before the transfer window started.
 
They are going to tell us where to put those addons if we keep including that in an offer before long
I do think that we'll eventually pay up. We can't afford to delay this deal given the lack of quality attacking depth in our side.
 
Having muppetted here for a few years now, I'm pretty confident this one will happen, but again knowing United, towards the end of the window. Actually the signs were there since before the restart and was confident about this even before the transfer window started.
Being a 38 year old muppet, you get to learn from the pain the club puts you through. You also learn the same silly tricks we try every time.

Utd know 120m guaranteed euros will get their man. Utd also know they can afford that. But why not try to pay less? That’s what good businessmen do right? Utd aren’t ashamed to be tossers in negotiations. They’ll push it to the point they get their result.
 
This would have been long over if we couldn’t afford this deal. There is no way Utd are walking away from this deal. When we don’t walk away from spunking £80m on Maguire, we sure as shit ain’t walking away from this one. Woodward is going to end up slapping the stacks on the table and walking out with his man.

It takes one lame article (which we get every time we sign someone) and people end up losing their shit.

Bookmark this. Sancho will be at Utd very soon.

Circumstances are extremely different this time around, there's a global pandemic which has fecked everyone. We have never spent so much on a single player, let alone during a global pandemic. I was very excited and was expecting this transfer before the window begun, but the longer it dragged on, the more it became less and less likely for me.

What exactly makes you so confident? The British press, depending on who you believe, are claiming we either have no intention to pay their fee or are looking at alternatives. The German press don't even think it's worth reporting anymore given they're convinced it's over. The player clearly has no interest in pushing for a move, Dortmund have no need to sell for anything less than their valuation. Both of our seasons start in under a week now. Almost everything seems to be pointing towards this not happening, it's very late in the window for such a high profile signing.

The only thing that seems to be keeping this 'alive', is that we haven't come out and categorically said we are moving on. Even when we do brief that though, it's written off as a brief for one and two, I've explained in the past why it wouldn't be the smartest idea for them to come out and categorically say they're out of the race. It would be a PR nightmare, especially without a backup lined up.

I am extremely hopeful he comes, but that's based on almost nothing at the moment. There has barely been an update in months, unless you consider agreeing agent/player fees an update, despite Romano reporting that ages ago. The issue has always been Dortmund's valuation and I don't see us being any closer to justifying that fee. That's if Dortmund will still even accept it this late in the window. I would be extremely fecking happy to be wrong though.
 
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Club is gone to the dogs if we're in for Bale.

Woodward, the poisonous prick, will get an easy ride this season with an empty Old Trafford.
 
I admire that level of optimism with only three weeks left
3 weeks is an extremely long time in a transfer market. Do not be surprised by a ridiculous number of transfers taking place in the last few days of the window across the whole of Europe. Everyone is waiting for the knock on effect and transfer carousel.
 
People say there will be a lot of competitions next year, but forget that this pandemic is very likely going into next year.

Let Dortmund keep him for another year and see how they will cope financially with another year like this with no crowds and potential 2nd wave coming in this winter.

His price isn't going to fall off a cliff, and the potential consequences if we fail to make top 4 outweighs the investment costs.
 
Jesus I’ve been reading the last few posts here thinking something significant had happened saying we weren’t getting him. It’s all based on one article saying exactly the same thing that’s been said for the last two months :lol:
 
It's not that submitting a bid is hard, it's the fact that submitting the right bid is hard. We tried negotiating with Dortmund earlier on, but they made us go through agents instead. That's why we haven't submitted a bid yet; Dortmund only want 120 million Euros guaranteed, but we're still trying to negotiate a better deal via the agents.
The right bid. Dortmund have no reason to accept less than 120 million guaranteed. 120 million paid in installments is the deal that we will have to make, if we don't pay that we wont get Sancho. Its like with Maguire. Leicester wanted 80 million, they got 80 million. And we wasted time.
 
The first thing to consider when looking at alternatives is to ensure you don't strengthen the opposition. If we don't get Sancho now he will go somewhere else and we will watch that team lift more silverware.

10 pages to go....have a horrible feeling Woody has blown it!
 
The direction of this deal will be clear in the next 5-7 days and not because of a Telegraph article written by a hit miss journalist thats unaware Sancho pushed for personal terms to be agreed. I`m 100% sure a bid will go in this week as our season starts soon and we`ll want it done by then but whether it will be what BVB want is the question but I expect it to cause a chain reaction of Sancho pushing for a move(he cant push for the move until we launch an official bid)and BVB being slightly more willing to negotiate(accepting add ons instead of installments)
This week is make or break IMO if it doesn`t happen in 5-7 days it won`t happen at all but Utd have gotten too sucked into the deal to end up with their dicks in their hands in the last minute so I reckon it gets done after an agonizing months of speculation.
 
His price isn't going to fall off a cliff, and the potential consequences if we fail to make top 4 outweighs the investment costs.

This is all guess work, nobody will know the impact this will have on clubs if the global pandemic remains unchanged or even going to get worst which is likely to happen.
 
This is all guess work, nobody will know the impact this will have on clubs if the global pandemic remains unchanged or even going to get worst which is likely to happen.
He is right about us probably not getting top 4 though as it stands we aren`t getting ahead of Chelsea, City and LFC and with our squad depth still so poor with CL football to deal with meaning little time for rest for key players and the likes of Arsenal/Spurs/potentially Everton breathing down our necks for top 4 there is every chance we have a repeat of the 18/19 season and we sure as hell won`t get Sancho without CL football. Waiting a year is too big a risk
 
The right bid. Dortmund have no reason to accept less than 120 million guaranteed. 120 million paid in installments is the deal that we will have to make, if we don't pay that we wont get Sancho. Its like with Maguire. Leicester wanted 80 million, they got 80 million. And we wasted time.
That's Joel Glazer for you. He'll try all possible avenues before he approves the big-money one.
 
I think the last spark of muppet hope is flickering out. Feel like this one is dead already and we're probably secretly working on an alternative. Just hope it's not Costa or Bale.
How can it be dead when we haven`t even bid yet??
 
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