Solskjær press conference vs Crystal Palace (H)

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Who comes off the bench if we need to change things. I was also a little worried when he said about going with what we have at one point.
Well we have a lack of impact players but you'd the whole squad is available so we don't lack options for this game.

I think Ole is more talking about the season as a whole. I don't think he wants to rely on Lingard/Pereira/Mata but we will have to at some point.
 

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Should beat Palace. No excuses. Ole is pretty smart with the press and not saying too much.
Diplomatic, but still attacking at times.
 

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He was smiling back in January when quizzed on Haland too. :nervous:
Yep, one thing we have learnt with Ole is that we cannot take anything he says or does as the truth.

He knows if he says he isnt coming now, the fan base would go mental before the first league game.

He would rather wait and let the club deal with the consequences once the window closes.

We are clinging onto the most pathetic things now.
 

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Lots of things in that presser were good. Ole seems to be making 3 things clear:

1. This team has a high ceiling but needs consistency and squad reinforcements.

2. We have massively underperformed since Fergie left. Average of 5th. So that has to improve (and board needs to understand that last year's squad is not good enough to guarantee top 4 again. We need to invest when things are looking up). Perhaps he has understood that the way to get Glazers to release the purse strings is to make them understand that the only way to guarantee top 4 is if we are good enough for a title challenge.

3. Young players like Mason need to be protected and introduced with a long term plan. It's time that the national teams also understand that. No way Gareth Southgate doesn't call him after that. At least next time, he will think twice about putting a United youth player on a plan that is not discussed with the club.
 

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Because you can't thats why you are a bad manager, or will be a bad manager.

We literally have a case study here where Mason did not have any bad press all his time with United and the first time he went out with England he screwed up. and we are here to listen to you and say it is Ole's fault and not Southgate. You sir, have rocks in your head.
I understand and support OGS for deflecting the issue onto him and Southgate as the grown ups, as that is what 'protection' looks like.

But this entire fiasco is Greenwood's fault and nobody else.
 

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He was smiling back in January when quizzed on Haland too. :nervous:
It's well known that he wanted Haaland - but his agent didn't want to bring him here because of the buyout clause issue. I think that's a fair position to take for the club. Unfortunate overall but I would not want United to make signings with 60-70 m buyout clauses. Now if that number was 150-200m, that would be okay.
 

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It's well known that he wanted Haaland - but his agent didn't want to bring him here because of the buyout clause issue. I think that's a fair position to take for the club. Unfortunate overall but I would not want United to make signings with 60-70 m buyout clauses. Now if that number was 150-200m, that would be okay.
Not disagreeing. My point is there is no point in trying to read Ole's body language in these situations. Everyone knows Sancho is #1 priority. Except this time, the issue seems to be €120m. I'm clinging on with a finger nail.
 

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Made him do a presser when he does zero press for United then in my opinion took no care in making sure he was looked after like maybe not sharing a room with your also young and immature mate from Manchester. Put them both with an elder, just to break them in first.
Good points. Shocking management from Southgate, or maybe not.
 

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I understand and support OGS for deflecting the issue onto him and Southgate as the grown ups, as that is what 'protection' looks like.

But this entire fiasco is Greenwood's fault and nobody else.
Greenwood's fault is being dumb and not knowing any better. Southgate, on the other hand, provided him and Foden with the opportunity to fail. That's poor leadership.
 

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Let’s get beat against palace. Maybe we’ll actually waken the feck up and do something in the market. We are run by bunch of reactionary cnuts after all.
 

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Let’s get beat against palace. Maybe we’ll actually waken the feck up and do something in the market. We are run by bunch of reactionary cnuts after all.
Poor from you. That is not support.
 

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Poor from you. That is not support.
Well I definitely don’t want us losing every game but if this is the only way to get through to glazers then I’ll take that. I believe in what Ole is doing but he’s clearly not being given the best tools to do his job so by any means necessary for me.
It’s just a personal hypothesis that it might get our board to do something but of course, ideally, I’d like us to win every game but short term loss for a long term gain?
 

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Are you a psychologist?
No, of course not. Saying that, it does not take a genius to read his body language and moreover, comments like yours are useless in a forum where people express opinions. May I ask, do you have anything of value to offer? If not, I advise to not bother replying to my message.
 

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No, of course not. Saying that, it does not take a genius to read his body language and moreover, comments like yours are useless in a forum where people express opinions. May I ask, do you have anything of value to offer? If not, I advise to not bother replying to my message.
That's me told.... If you aren't qualified then I don't get how you can state what you have that's all. Reading body language is a sure fire route to successfully judging a managers frame of mind I'm sure.
 

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I'm very happy to hear him say that about Greenwood and the FA. Not only should England have learned their lesson with hyping up young players too much, but they should listen to their clubs when it's obvious for all to see that Ole has done a fantastic job with Greenwood and managing expectations. What do they do, they pick him and parade him in front of the media. Then the media tears him up after a mistake and dig up "dirt" to compound it.
 

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Well I definitely don’t want us losing every game but if this is the only way to get through to glazers then I’ll take that. I believe in what Ole is doing but he’s clearly not being given the best tools to do his job so by any means necessary for me.
It’s just a personal hypothesis that it might get our board to do something but of course, ideally, I’d like us to win every game but short term loss for a long term gain?
No doubt we are partly hamstrung by our owners taking money out the club but one result is not going to change a thing. Very poor to even think about wanting to lose the first game of a season.

Still, I don't think you really mean it. Just a bit of understandable frustration!
 
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I'm very happy to hear him say that about Greenwood and the FA. Not only should England have learned their lesson with hyping up young players too much, but they should listen to their clubs when it's obvious for all to see that Ole has done a fantastic job with Greenwood and managing expectations. What do they do, they pick him and parade him in front of the media. Then the media tears him up after a mistake and dig up "dirt" to compound it.
Very diplomatic way of telling the FA they are feckwits.

Those games should have been cancelled full stop. Although clearly that wasn’t on the FA.
 

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Ole was brought in as a glazer mouthpiece and he will never pressure the board (for transfers or much else) and will never walk away.
 
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Yeah, I think SAF would have been less measured haha.
Yes he would have been raging!

When you think Grealish wasn’t called up to start with, it’s ridiculous they called him up rather than give him a break over someone like Grealish who wasn’t playing in the Europa league.

All for a pointless, glorified friendly.
 

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“Luke and Paul are available for selection for as long as we need them”.
Sounds to me like Ole wants to sell them?
Game time considering Paul recovered from Coronavirus and Shaw is coming back from injury
 

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Yes he would have been raging!

When you think Grealish wasn’t called up to start with, it’s ridiculous they called him up rather than give him a break over someone like Grealish who wasn’t playing in the Europa league.

All for a pointless, glorified friendly.
I have a problem with England national team and the English press. They like to build someone up and take them down quickly. Their attacks on Greenwood have been disgraceful. They picked a wrong target in Raheem Sterling because he took the fight back to them. Ole was bang on the money today. United have never put Greenwood up for press conferences. If anyone needed to know how crap Gareth Southgate is , his handling of Greenwood tells you all you need to know. England are wasting their time with him. He wont win anything.
 

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Yes he would have been raging!

When you think Grealish wasn’t called up to start with, it’s ridiculous they called him up rather than give him a break over someone like Grealish who wasn’t playing in the Europa league.

All for a pointless, glorified friendly.
Yeah, I guess it was for Southgate's "going with youth" moment, so he could be praised for bringing them through. And you're right about Grealish. Then Southgate came out afterwards and said those matches shouldn't have been played and that players weren't fit. Why choose players who only have this short window for a holiday?

Hope Ole pulls a SAF and gets them to miss every single non-essential International from now on.
 

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Because you can't thats why you are a bad manager, or will be a bad manager.

We literally have a case study here where Mason did not have any bad press all his time with United and the first time he went out with England he screwed up. and we are here to listen to you and say it is Ole's fault and not Southgate. You sir, have rocks in your head.
I have a problem with England national team and the English press. They like to build someone up and take them down quickly. Their attacks on Greenwood have been disgraceful. They picked a wrong target in Raheem Sterling because he took the fight back to them. Ole was bang on the money today. United have never put Greenwood up for press conferences. If anyone needed to know how crap Gareth Southgate is , his handling of Greenwood tells you all you need to know. England are wasting their time with him. He wont win anything.
Still not heard one actual argument as to why making one of England's most promising up and coming stars attend a conference.

People are just deflecting all the negative things Greenwood rightfully was criticized for and pretending it's because of Southgate and standard media duty.

Mason messed up. Stop making excuses and deflecting. Demand more and better attitude from our players and move on.
 

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Either he's an England international or he isn't. It's an honour and a privilege to represent the country and it's not Southgate's fault Maguire created all the wrong kinds of headlines. Everyone had little rest, not just Greenwood.
Oh come on FFS! He's just doing what SAF would have done in his prime;creating a siege mentality...stop buying it
 

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Greenwood's fault is being dumb and not knowing any better. Southgate, on the other hand, provided him and Foden with the opportunity to fail. That's poor leadership.
Fair enough and agree with that. It was a very poor decision to allow them to room together: because they might goad each other into mischief (which they did) and also a missed opportunity for them to learn off pitch behaviour from senior players from other clubs. Yes, that was poor leadership, and surprising by Southgate as I’d have thought he’d be on top of such details.

I was also abit surprised when Greenwood have such a lengthy interview, given he’d not been afforded that opportunity by the club.

All I’m saying is that none of this mitigates Greenwood and Foden from their mistake, which I think is a lot more serious than many on here are prepared to admit. They did know better and knew what they were doing was against rules, else they wouldn’t have hired new rooms in for their romp!
 

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@Adam-Utd said it was a good conference on the last page but that wasnt hilarious?

The majority of the forum lately is just people looking to sh*t on other people without trying to add to the conversation or add anything to the topic at all. Its fine to disagree but so often its just absolute shitposting.
I didn't read it and I'm not interested in whataboutery but I did read yours. I agree with you, rating a manager's press conference is total shit posting.
 

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Let’s get beat against palace. Maybe we’ll actually waken the feck up and do something in the market. We are run by bunch of reactionary cnuts after all.
Its always my favourite time of the season. That point when our 'fans' start hoping we lose games so we might sign a player to help us win games.
 
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Its always my favourite time of the season. That point when our 'fans' start hoping we lose games so we might sign a player to help us win games.
Anyone that hopes we lose a game should just hand in their “Utd Supporter - but never been to Old Trafford” card and go and support Liverpool or whoever. It’s pathetic.
 

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Anyone that hopes we lose a game should just hand in their “Utd Supporter - but never been to Old Trafford” card and go and support Liverpool or whoever. It’s pathetic.
Theres been no respite on here for so long now. During the season - angry about Ole and the players whenever we dont win by 3. Off season - angry that they aren't getting their transfer fix.

Just constant whinging and misery. Its getting to be such a grind to keep coming on here. Everything is a massive overreaction. I dont even think its about the football that much anymore. Just a lot of angry, frustrated people needing an outlet for their feelings.
 

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Hoping we lose, dear me. I think I'll just be glad when the transfer window shuts.