Constant links to players

[RedStarUnited]

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Agree or disagree with what he says but I want to know this - Why does Woodward and co allow themselves to be in this position in every transfer window? The position where we are linked to way too many players than our rivals. You cant tell me United is the only big team around that agents can use.

"United are considering X"
"United are monitoring X"
"United have asked to be kept up to date of X"

Does Woodward and the marketing team maybe actually enjoy the fact that United gets talked about a lot? Increasing the social media metrics?

 

[Igor Drefljak]

I agree with what the guy is saying, but lost all respect for him when he put potential blame on the tea lady

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

I agree with what the guy is saying, but lost all respect for him when he put potential blame on the tea lady

Not enough drugs? Other team dope in far smarter ways. We use real tea instead of other things.

 

[Sky1981]

It may not be from them. You can't stop press and people pretending they know something.

They can't deny it as well. Other wise we might as well deny everything and when we dont everyone's gonna know it either.

And probably some unwritten rules about not shitting on the common well. One day it's us that needs to leak some rumors and vice versa. Ever notice why other clubs arent exactly vehement in denying anything?

Besides. In terms of real football, does it matter how the muppet thinks? Our manager will know exactly who we're after anyway. He doesnt need the media.

The only one hurting is the muppets

 

[Josep Dowling]

The club should come out and dismiss fake rumours just like Bayern.

 

[prateik]

Even the agents say we are bad at transfers.. I am distraught.

 

[tjb]

It's happened now and it has always happened particularly with us. It's what happens when you have as much attention as we do. It's the reason the Lakers and Knicks are always rumored to be signing player a or b. I'm sure Real face the same thing in Spain. Only difference now is in England, until Liverpool start to establish themselves as a consistent threat like Arsenal were, no club comes close to our size and due to this, we have to deal with newspapers try9ng to make money off our name.

 

[Santoryo]

Me, I blame fans naivety. Fans honestly deserve to be frustrated and hurt if they don't have enough brain cells to figure out that some of these links are agents and media generated. I agree the board haven't done much to cover themselves in glory this window so far but most of the things the fans are raging over are on themselves. I see people on social media angry and crying about us missing on Tiago, Reguilon and Bale.

I mean it's obvious none of these were actually our targets this window yet fans have lost their minds over it, holding much grievance on us supposedly missing on those targets. This is on the fans themselves for being gullible therefore they deserve to feel like shit for being dumb enough to swallow every piece of nonsense put forth by the media and player's agents.

 

[RedStarUnited]

It's happened now and it has always happened particularly with us. It's what happens when you have as much attention as we do. It's the reason the Lakers and Knicks are always rumored to be signing player a or b. I'm sure Real face the same thing in Spain. Only difference now is in England, until Liverpool start to establish themselves as a consistent threat like Arsenal were, no club comes close to our size and due to this, we have to deal with newspapers try9ng to make money off our name.

Regarding Real Madrid, they have actually released statements to deny transfers in the past. Here is one about Mbappe > https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2018/07/official-announcement-2

United never ever do things like this, I simply dont buy the we are famous narrative. Woodward and his team either dont notice it or dont care.

 

[Betson]

He has a point about Bruno etc , we effectively left Spurs have a free run at him at the end last summer because again we spent too much time 'monitoring' the situation , he was very close to signing for them only for them to decide to go another direction , that was just pot luck for us.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

United news sells is why it happens.

United news sells is why we let it happen.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

He has a point about Bruno etc , we effectively left Spurs have a free run at him at the end last summer because again we spent too much time 'monitoring' the situation , he was very close to signing for them only for them to decide to go another direction , that was just pot luck for us.

Didn't this also happen with VDB? He nearly signed for Madrid. We only woke up this summer when we saw other teams getting interested or something. Were always scheming without acting, it seems. No wonder we've fecked up in the most imp deal - Sancho.

 

[peridigm]

The club should come out and dismiss fake rumours just like Bayern.

What if the club dismissed all rumors? Would eventually shut the papers up when there are no more players to link us with.

 

[Betson]

Didn't this also happen with VDB? He nearly signed for Madrid. We only woke up this summer when we saw other teams getting interested or something. Were always scheming without acting, it seems. No wonder we've fecked up in the most imp deal - Sancho.

Yes Madrid had that deal wrapped up until Covid 19 disrupted all their transfer plans. We are extremely slow in the market and by all accounts very frustrating to work with on transfers , we just lucky again with the Van der Sar connection at Ajax to get that deal wrapped up otherwise I think we would still be monitoring the situation or still at the intensely preparing a bid stage.

 

[AsonUnique]

I feel like the club thinks it is above dismissing rumors. But at some point between their briefs and managing fan expectations I would love if from time to time we had a club exec that was outspoken. Outspoken not in a Woodward way but outspoken calling the media out like some of the German and Italian teams, of course they chat and play some games but calling out the press would be good for the club if they are so worried about fans being negative.

 

[Santoryo]

I think the club should continue to keep quiet and let the noise be. No need to react at every bs parroted in the media. Fans who are guilible and easily get triggered by papers nonsense and take everything to heart deserve to feel shitty because they are that dumb.

Seeing all the hysteria on social media and people in an uproar over "missing" Bale, Reguilon and Thiago despite none of them being our target actually makes me happy knowing the fact that dumb people are feeling restless, betrayed and suffering due to their own stupidity and nativity.

Let idiots cry and moan over nonsensical bs perpetrated by media and agents.

 

[Suedesi]

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Agree or disagree with what he says but I want to know this - Why does Woodward and co allow themselves to be in this position in every transfer window? The position where we are linked to way too many players than our rivals. You cant tell me United is the only big team around that agents can use.

"United are considering X"
"United are monitoring X"
"United have asked to be kept up to date of X"

Does Woodward and the marketing team maybe actually enjoy the fact that United gets talked about a lot? Increasing the social media metrics?

Two reasons: Woodward and co are fecking incompetent and they have less money to play with than then let on.

 

[Suedesi]

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[Snuffkin]

In fairness if we had Sancho in the bag for 90 million then Thiago moved for 20 million we'd be furious with overspending. We complain about under spending or overspending. The cheeky gerbil Woodward cant win.

 

[Tarrou]

I’m far from a fan of Woodward but blaming him for the press linking us to players is bonkers. “Monitoring the situation” really means I don’t know a thing about this transfer but need to fill this void of feckall happening because the reality is im making it up for clicks

 

[UpWithRivers]

There is a whole industry built around United rumors. If United started dismissing rumours, half the world would be bankrupt and hungry, tier 1’s would be protesting with youtubers and the government would have to send in troops.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

United is financially strong, last decade was shit and its known for expensive (maybe even overpaying) transfers. In the eyes of many, United can be seen as a little bit desperate regarding transfers and when a little bit of desperation meets the right finances, it's the perfect mix for agents/other clubs to negotiate their own deals.
Only way out of this is success in sports and success in the transfer market (without overpaying) and reasonable player wages. This image will stick to the club for quite a while. This is the thing with images imo: It's quite easy to destroy a positive image, but very hard to build a positive one after it was destroyed. It simply takes more time.

Also: of course Man Utd is a (in terms of success: struggling) global player, so it's always interesting to read about them. Generates clicks and therefor money.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

This is a problem (which it is) because people believe in the rumours.

I think it's time we have a spokesperson from the club that officially deny the many bs rumours. It'll bring down the credentials of all those media outlets. Didn't Fergie (and Mou and Ole) denied some transfer rumours and I got the impression the transfer links they denied quickly died off in social media.

Once confirm, people don't have interest in click-baits and proven wrong rumours.

 

[Nickelodeon]

If we do our business swiftly or early in the window for once and announce that our business is done, the rumour factory will stop.

 

[blythy]

This is a problem (which it is) because people believe in the rumours.

Exactly. This is not new - it's been escalating throughout the internet age (look at the archives for this forum). It's simply amplified now by the modern football fan being more gullible and having unrealistic expectations (set by computer games, not reality) as well as other media platforms relying more on social media to generate their stories.

 

[blythy]

If we do our business swiftly or early in the window for once and announce that our business is done, the rumour factory will stop.

I don't believe that for one minute. It's never enough for some people - had we signed Sancho weeks ago I am 100% certain sections of the fanbase would still be clambering for the next 'big name'.

 

[Stretender]

Exactly. This is not new - it's been escalating throughout the internet age (look at the archives for this forum). It's simply amplified now by the modern football fan being more gullible and having unrealistic expectations (set by computer games, not reality) as well as other media platforms relying more on social media to generate their stories.

Spot on . Gullible, unrealistic expectations, computer games and social media. You couldn't sum up the stereotypical modern fan perfectly. I bet most of them have never been inside any stadium to actually watch a football match because it's completely different to see how players react on the pitch than the player you see TV Cameras following during a live match.

You forgot one thing though. Pundit worshippers. Gary Neville is not God.

 

[ivaldo]

We're the biggest club in the world. It's only natural we get linked to more players than anyone else. We also have a large section of the fan base that likes to go batshit over every player we have been linked with and haven't signed, making a journalist's job piss easy.

 

[blythy]

We're the biggest club in the world. It's only natural we get linked to more players than anyone else. We also have a large section of the fan base that likes to go batshit over every player we have been linked with and haven't signed, making a journalist's job piss easy.

Not to mention player agents who simply have to mention United being interested in their client (regardless of truth) to drive prices up/hurry along a transfer.

 

[Santoryo]

This window has completely made realize that we have one of the most toxic and guilible fan base around. I've always known fans of every team could get hysterical over anything but this window in light of our fans on social media losing their shit over blatantly untrue and nonsensical bs made up stories by the media and agents, it became evident to me that we have some of the most idiotic set of fans.

I understand and empathize with fans getting frustrated over lack of transfer activities so far this window. I understand this because it's actually true. The club hasn't made as much signing as most had hoped, so the frustration is understandable.

Now when you see fans losing their mind over us failing to sign Reguilon, Bale, Thiago, players whom agents and media push stories and linked us for whatever reasons despite our interest not being concrete at all, is when I shake my head in disbelief.

Creating this current negative and toxic vibe around the club over non stories and blatant lies from media and agents is just pathetic and those helping fuel all these negative narrative over those lies are utter morons and deserve to cry like the idiots they have been so far.

What these idiots don't realize is that they're simply helping these leeches and vultures papers to write more click bait story off the negative and toxic atmosphere these morons are bringing. Now all the media are doing is pile up over the negativity and write more stories with negative connotations because they know that's what fans want to see. Fans want to feel vindicated in their hatred of the board, the club currently by reading papers write negatively about us so they can join together in their hive and regurgitate all sort of drivel written and said about the club.

Such a bunch of guilible losers clearly being taken advantage of by the media while rivals fans laugh in a corner watching these morons lose their minds.

 

[Red_toad]

The club should come out and dismiss fake rumours just like Bayern.

Yeah they deny and confirm interest in players and generally they get the players they desire. Doesn’t seem to hamper their transfer activity. Whilst we get the general ‘oh we can’t discuss players from other teams blurb’. May Woodie gets sponsorship kickbacks from all the click bait?

 

[Nickelodeon]

I don't believe that for one minute. It's never enough for some people - had we signed Sancho weeks ago I am 100% certain sections of the fanbase would still be clambering for the next 'big name'.

Here’s the deal. The club has performed their business in dithery way every single window and sagas such as Maguire last year and Bruno, Ighalo in Jan haven’t exactly been shining examples of ruthless business.

Signings have to made during the window but negotiations can be done before as well. Like Chelsea did for Werner and Ziyech or we did back in 2007 when Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves were signed in May itself. We never ever do that and given the precarious situation of the club and clear need for improvements, it does add pressure. But that’s what Manchester United brings. We can’t just call ourselves the biggest club at every opportunity and then blame fans on social media for discussing/expecting transfer business.

Also, had we signed Sancho, there’s also a majority who would expect the business to be closed or the club or Ole could have come out and said that its done.You can question certain people and their expectations. But to take aim at the entire fanbase for our transfer business problems is frankly one of the stupidest arguments that has been put out there.

 

[Bilbo]

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Agree or disagree with what he says but I want to know this - Why does Woodward and co allow themselves to be in this position in every transfer window? The position where we are linked to way too many players than our rivals. You cant tell me United is the only big team around that agents can use.

"United are considering X"
"United are monitoring X"
"United have asked to be kept up to date of X"

Does Woodward and the marketing team maybe actually enjoy the fact that United gets talked about a lot? Increasing the social media metrics?

How exactly would the club ever prevent a free press from writing whatever they want about us? Its not possible. They are doing the best thing that they can do, and that is keeping silent.

Its up to the fans to be a little bit more sensible in choosing what to believe, but they can't because they are all too desperate for their signing fix

 

[Bilbo]

I don't believe that for one minute. It's never enough for some people - had we signed Sancho weeks ago I am 100% certain sections of the fanbase would still be clambering for the next 'big name'.

Agreed. Look how quickly everybody got past the VDB signing - a really good signing. Sancho would last a couple of days before they started crying about us not getting the CB, LB, ST that we also can't live without.

I cant wait for the window to close

 

[Wumminator]

Have people not being following football for years? Every year big clubs are linked with 100+ players and most of it is clearly nonsense. It’s happened with every single club.

Stop spending so much time reading transfer rumours ffs. Half of you spend hours trawling the express gossip column and then complain.

 

[BazzaBear]

What a bizarre idea that it's somehow the clubs fault that journo's simply make up stories about us wanting to buy players.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

I couldn't give a toss with who we are or aren't being linked with... I do care about the players we actually bring in through the door though, on and on that front Woody deserves all the shit coming his way.

 

[Keefy18]

Agree or disagree with what he says but I want to know this - Why does Woodward and co allow themselves to be in this position in every transfer window? The position where we are linked to way too many players than our rivals. You cant tell me United is the only big team around that agents can use.

How exactly do they allow anything?

They can't control media outlets for god sake. The media will run stories they believe to be true or in most instances just create something with little or no evidence / truth attached to it.

Yet it doesn't stop the vast, vast majority of supporters believing every click bait bulls*it article created based off of "sources".

 

[Keefy18]

I couldn't give a toss with who we are or aren't being linked with... I do care about the players we actually bring in through the door though, on and on that front Woody deserves all the shit coming his way.

Why?

It's a lose lose situation if we follow your narrative and I know its not just your narrative but many supporters. But if you stop and think about it it doesn't make sense.

So when Ed delivers Pogba for Jose, is he at fault? Or supporting the manager as he should?

When Pogba doesn't turn out to be the player folks expected him to be, they apply hindsight logic and then also blame Ed for it turning out that way.

 

[Bilbo]

We have a toxic fanbase