Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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I'm sure they're shaking scared how the mighty Judge and Woodward forced them to keep their best player for another year.
Especially since the news broke that he extended his contract until 2023 quite a while ago. They can get full value next season in a better market environment and who knows Sancho may yet be able to further increase his stock this season.
 

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Especially since the news broke that he extended his contract until 2023 quite a while ago. They can get full value next season in a better market environment and who knows Sancho may yet be able to further increase his stock this season.
How does the better market environment come about? Please explain how that happens.
 
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How does the better market environment come about? Please explain how that happens.
They’re hoping (praying) an effective vaccine becomes available soon, gets widespread deployment and somehow things miraculously return to normal and the wealthy clubs suddenly are flush with money again and are ready to spend. Which is unlikely.
 

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Especially since the news broke that he extended his contract until 2023 quite a while ago. They can get full value next season in a better market environment and who knows Sancho may yet be able to further increase his stock this season.
You don’t know that man, if anything, educated people on the matter Of economics claim quite the opposite.
 

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They’re hoping (praying) an effective vaccine becomes available soon, gets widespread deployment and somehow things miraculously return to normal and the wealthy clubs suddenly are flush with money again and are ready to spend. Which is unlikely.
I was being polite :lol:

I keep seeing people write such statements which can only come from economic ignorance or delusion as no elite club will have more money to spend on players next summer than they do now. Where is the money going to come from????

Sancho will command a much lower price next summer because there will be alot less money within the football economy; several big clubs have to sell players just to balance their books.

It's why I'm still convinced that BVB are desperate to sell this window and all we have seen so far is a negotiation dance from both sides.
 
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One of my biggest frustrations is the club unwilling to admit they monumentally fecked up by appointing this clown as Chief Negotiator.

We need to try and rebuild our relationships with other clubs execs which can't be done with him still in charge of things.
 

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Do people really think it’s going to be a better market to sell players next summer? Ridiculous.

Even if a vaccine is distributed tomorrow, it still won’t be produced and testing enough to get crowds back in before end of the season.

End of season is only 8 months away. The restrictions have just been confirmed in U.K. for another 6 months at least.

Absolutely no chance you will get a better price next summer than this summer when clubs will be even more skint.

Most likely we will have a Euros behind closed doors or completely cancelled as well.
 

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I was being polite :lol:

I keep seeing people write such statements which can only come from economic ignorance or delusion as no elite club will have more money to spend on players next summer than they do now. Where is the money going to come from????

Sancho will command a much lower price next summer because there will be alot less money within the football economy; several big clubs have to sell players just to balance their books.

It's why I'm still convinced that BVB are desperate to sell this window and all we have seen so far is a negotiation dance from both sides.
Which would have an impact on us too, correct? I presume what you are saying is next year, BVB should not expect lucrative bids for Sancho. But here's the thing. If Woodward and co reckon that United's finances are going to be under severe strain next season, then the gap between what we are ready to offer and BVB's own valuation of what they could potentially get for Sancho next year (even under a more depressed market) might be just too big to bridge.

We have significant deadwood on our payroll. Which no one is looking to buy. Next year moving them would be even tougher. So we might as well not count revenue from player sales to fund any new acquisition. Add to that our significant wage bill. Bottom line, BVB might be desperate to sell, but it's quite likely that United aren't able (or unwilling) to afford Sancho even at a discounted valuation.
 

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Love how Matt Judge is now a scapegoat nobody had even heard of him a couple of years ago. No doubt he is a tool.
 

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We haven’t got the money, have we? It’s all gone out in directors fees and a bonuses for Ed the banker
 

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Him & Woody are both a pair of tools
Matt and Ed were pals in uni. That's the only reason someone with zero transfer experience can become the chief negotiator at United and remain here after embarrassing us in the transfer market year after year.
 

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Do people really think it’s going to be a better market to sell players next summer? Ridiculous.

Even if a vaccine is distributed tomorrow, it still won’t be produced and testing enough to get crowds back in before end of the season.

End of season is only 8 months away. The restrictions have just been confirmed in U.K. for another 6 months at least.

Absolutely no chance you will get a better price next summer than this summer when clubs will be even more skint.

Most likely we will have a Euros behind closed doors or completely cancelled as well.
The restrictions "could" last 6 months.
They aren't for "at least" 6 months.
Just to be clear.
 

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OK, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties cause it's cold out there. It's cold out there every day.

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Close this thread and save yourselves the torment chaps. It ain't happening.
 

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Matt and Ed were pals in uni. That's the only reason someone with zero transfer experience can become the chief negotiator at United and remain here after embarrassing us in the transfer market year after year.
I don't think it matters who we put in charge. The Glazers will have limited them to what can be spent and they then sit back and let these two clowns get all the abuse.

Top 4 is a great financial model for them, plus the odd trophy. Spending big to win a title is too much of a risk for their strategy.

I hoped to be proved wrong, but I see it unlikely at this stage we pay a big fee this summer as they will be confident this squad can achieve top four again, which sadly will be the limits to the owners goals.
 

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What a monumental feck up this has been. Heads should be rolling. Why didn’t we walk away a month ago if we had no intention of paying anything close to Dortmund’s valuation?

It’s utter incompetence that has made us look stupid.
 

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What a monumental feck up this has been. Heads should be rolling. Why didn’t we walk away a month ago if we had no intention of paying anything close to Dortmund’s valuation?
It got you a tons of Social Media buzz. He's been virtually wearing your kit for months now, I suppose you could see that as a huge ad(Ed) campaign, free of charge.
 

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most annoying thing is they have knew since January what they wanted for him, went back in the summer thought they might have nipped him a bit cheaper which is understandable with the current climate but was soon clear they wouldn't, so simply should have either paid or walked away and looked at other targets, think this was our best chance to have got him with really no competition, every chance next year that Chelsea will be in for him and others as well.
 

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It got you a tons of Social Media buzz. He's been virtually wearing your kit for months now, I suppose you could see that as a huge ad(Ed) campaign, free of charge.
We get enough social media buzz regardless. If anything, it's Dortmund and Sancho who benefited visibility wise.
 

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Someone at the Athletic is writing the inevitable “How the summer’s biggest transfer...didn’t happen.” piece where they talk to the Belarusian office worker about the risk of playing three centre halves against a high, mobile block.
 

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Really is groundhog day
 

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Have to say I thought this one was nailed on . It's a real pity but if we cant get him we really do need to bring in others . We need Squad depth. As much as I like VdB that is just not going to be enough. Time to move on .
 

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There’s been no negotiations with BvB and no offer has been made.
Agents beavering away to make it happen, hence the story that personal terms and agents fees agreed, but there’s nothing official.
Dortmund have again reiterated that Sancho isn’t for sale this window and Utd haven’t made any move.
The rest is the usual made up nonsense.
 

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Almost every year since he engineered the buyout, Woodward has dithered and made the biggest club in the EPL look second rate with his Merchant banker tactics on transfer negotiations.
That coupled with disinterest from the shopping centre owners who authorise expenditure and we get the window we are watching currently. After the finish to 2019/2020 there was a golden opportunity to take the first steps towards competing against City and Liverpool, but we ended up lectured about how difficult transfers are while watching those beneath us take steps to bring in fresh troops And reinforcements.
Such is the life of a Man Utd supporter these days, waking up hoping for good news only to see media click bait from the Woodward led acolytes. Can’t see it getting a lot better in the short term with current owners and executives.
 

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Almost every year since he engineered the buyout, Woodward has dithered and made the biggest club in the EPL look second rate with his Merchant banker tactics on transfer negotiations.
That coupled with disinterest from the shopping centre owners who authorise expenditure and we get the window we are watching currently. After the finish to 2019/2020 there was a golden opportunity to take the first steps towards competing against City and Liverpool, but we ended up lectured about how difficult transfers are while watching those beneath us take steps to bring in fresh troops And reinforcements.
Such is the life of a Man Utd supporter these days, waking up hoping for good news only to see media click bait from the Woodward led acolytes. Can’t see it getting a lot better in the short term with current owners and executives.
Certainly a frustrating time. Especially when it felt like we were coming very close to having a challenging XI and now whilst DVB is a fine addition we look well short of Liverpool, City and one could argue on paper Chelsea are in a far better position too.
 
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