Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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Not too sure how true given the source, but I genuinely nearly fell out of my chair laughing at this.

If it happens, Dortmund are just going to laugh and tell us to feck off.

We're in such a strong negotiating position. Coming off a season where we didn't shut the feck up about how rich we are and how we can take advantage of the pandemic, the constant severe negativity around the club, it's players and the fans this summer, a 3-1 embarrassing performance against a team that will be fighting relegation and a Dortmund team who have no pressing need to sell, especially now that there's like a week left of the window and they've had a long term injury to one of their wide players in Hazard.

Fecking ridiculous if true, good thing it's the Mirror and it isn't

Just pay the fecking 120m or feck off to other targets, sick of this club's posturing in the media to try and distract everyone from the fact that we have done feck all in the market
Stop being dramatic mate. I know we need Sancho and personally I think he would improve us but stop acting like you are more clever than those managing the finances at United.

Every aspect of life has been affected by covid and that includes football. As much as I hate Ed Woodward but he is not wrong to ask for a reasonable valuation of Sancho in a covid market.

As far as I know Dortmund set a fixed price for Sancho before covid of 120 million Euros. Ed Woodward and Manchester United are within their rights to negotiate for a revised price in the wake of covid. No one knows what football will be like in a years time so Dortmund could find themselves in a tricky position then.

I don't think Sancho will win United the league this season so Woodward can have another go in a year's time when Sancho would probably be cheaper.

There is no reason for United to pay 120 million when there is no one there willing to pay 121 million for Sancho today. Its just common sense.

Any football fan laughing at United for not wanting to pay 120 million needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

United know what is the right valuation for Sancho today and as long as there is no competition for him, they should drive a hard bargain.
 

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Nurse retweeted that and then liked a tweet from some fans saying how reliable he is. Certainly indicating that he knows something...
 

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Nurse is usually 3-4 months behind so his positive vibes fit perfectly with the general narrative from 3-4 months back.
 

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All this new information does fit the narrative of the reports that we will bombard the window last minute. I don't see us paying what Dortmund want, i also don't see them agreeing a deal 30 million short of the total valuation. 20 million less is something negotiable and more or less the exact same principle Chelsea applied in going for Havertz.
 

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Enough to forgive Woody?
nah. Squad preparation should be done weeks ago with the aim of giving the manager as much time as possible to gel the players. With exceptions going down to the last day. With woodward this has been the rule rather than the exception
 

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This is the guy who wrote the mirror article .....

Hmm. Doesn't strike me as a guy who has the contacts to know about the most confidential contract in world football right now.

 

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Anyone financially literate here?
Why on earth would the United board slash their earnings by another -$150m right before (4 days till earnings) they’re about to announce one of the gloomiest quarterly reports in Uniteds public history? I know it won’t be on this quarters report but shareholders will dump the company really quickly. Btw it’s shareholders glazers care about, not ‘fans’

No sense to it. They were never going to spend more than 30m this quarter on players.
Their share price has been crashing in the past 5 days leading up to the report. Glazers won’t take on anymore expenses with COVID about to lock the world up again for the next couple months.

Forget Sancho, I can’t believe anyone thought this PUBLICLY TRADED company was going to dump +100m right before horrible earnings!
 

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Nurse is usually 3-4 months behind so his positive vibes fit perfectly with the general narrative from 3-4 months back.
Ordinarily true, but Nurse's infamous "Sancho then?" tweet back in early August, which was taken at the time as just taken to be typically empty journalistic baiting and stirring, was really an example of quiet confidence in its loudest form. He knows something. I reckon this time Nursey has known a lot more than he has been able to let on, and for quite a while.
 

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nah. Squad preparation should be done weeks ago with the aim of giving the manager as much time as possible to gel the players. With exceptions going down to the last day. With woodward this has been the rule rather than the exception
But if he gets the player for a decent discount, this was the only way that world be possible.
 

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Why on earth would the United board slash their earnings by another -$150m right before (4 days till earnings) they’re about to announce one of the gloomiest quarterly reports in Uniteds public history? I know it won’t be on this quarters report but shareholders will dump the company really quickly. Btw it’s shareholders glazers care about, not ‘fans’
No sense to it. They were never going to spend more than 30m this quarter on players.
Their share price has been crashing in the past 5 days leading up to the report. Glazers won’t take on anymore expenses with COVID about to lock the world up again for the next couple months.
Forget Sancho, I can’t believe anyone thought this PUBLICLY TRADED company was going to dump +100m right before horrible earnings!
Yes plenty of us are. More than you I daresay :lol:
 

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This is the biggest day of the saga since British journalists told people that it was Sancho waiting for his 13th cap that was holding back a deal.

Howard Nurse himself actually came out and said that more money would be more palatable than less money in a Twitter reply.. Can you believe it?
 

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If Woodward pulls this deal off with at a substantially discounted amount, there may be a method to all his madness. However I strongly doubt it.
 

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This is the biggest day of the saga since British journalists told people that it was Sancho waiting for his 13th cap that was holding back a deal.

Howard Nurse himself actually came out and said that more money would be more palatable than less money in a Twitter reply.. Can you believe it?
we get it dude
 

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What on earth is Kevin trying to say here? A 'hefty' offer? What does this mean exactly? And is it our first 'hefty' offer? Or maybe our second one? Could it in fact even be our umpteenth one?! Or were all our other offers 'not hefty' but this one is?

I think absolute drivel is the correct answer to all these questions.
 

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Sancho plus Sarr on loan would be incredible.
We'd need to offload a few players to make room for them, 8 players for 3 starting positions isn't really workable . Would make us very competitive attacking wise. But we'd still have issues in midfield and defence.
That said I don't see Watford loaning out Sarr, they're looking to sell. I'd actually be quiet happy if we bought him if Sancho wasn't an option, I feel he's got a lot of room for development.
 

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Lads, there is no news in Germany so calm the feck down.

Things Bayern fans would tell you.
 

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Yes plenty of us are. More than you I daresay :lol:
Oh that’s great to hear. So why on earth do people entertain the idea of Sancho? Current liabilities are at 298m and they’re only sitting on 78m of cash as of last quarters report. COVID surely won’t be giving them any cash boosts any time soon. The next 12 months for United look like a cash crunch like no other. Why on earth would they get reckless here? Most of the current cash is tied up to meet the next 12 month liabilities, leaving you with little to no leverage on the negotiation table. I can’t see them slapping on another 100m+ payables for the next couple years. Consider that shareholders and Ed are well aware that sponsorship deals will dry up big time with the COVID economic shit storm. This would be a whole other conversation if this was June 2019, where united had just posted a record quarter and racked themselves up 300m in cash.

None of this looks like prime spending conditions, does it for you?
 

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I can't believe they managed to bring me back in with a few tweets after I was resigned to defeat and not getting him goddammit I hate it here :lol:
 
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