Alex Telles - SIGNED for United

[VP89]

The price will be less next week. If the player wants to join us and no risk of losing him then we’ll wait. He has to quarantine anyway so it makes no difference. He’ll be available after Internationals as he’s in the Brazil squad.

Exactly

 

[ayushreddevil9]

If true, we must be either skint or saving the bulk of the money for Sancho.

But I'm glad the club is taking a hard stance on these transfers. Telles wants out. He will be leaving for a free. We are the only club willing to offer any money.

I'd pay no more than 12m pounds for him.

Yeah. 20m for a player aged 27-28 playing in Portuguese league in the last year of contract? If he was that good why didn't any other team snap him up already?

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Is there any actual competition for his signature? Sevilla have be mentioned as have PSG. If there really isnt any actual competition then drive the price down and wait for last day or two of the window. Any saving we make on this deal help fund other positions. Sub £10mil sounds fair to me.

Doesn’t appear to be. PSG have publicly said they aren’t in for LBs and Sevilla have just bought Acuña to replace Reguilón.

I don’t think any other club is seriously interested so for once I completely agree that “penny pinching” makes sense. Telles will want the move and they will be desperate to sell as a free transfer makes no sense for the club.

 

[DevilRed]

Yeah. 20m for a player aged 27-28 playing in Portuguese league in the last year of contract? If he was that good why didn't any other team snap him up already?

If I had to guess its that most other clubs are financially impacted by covid and cannot afford to pay transfer fees + major wages for Telles. At least not the same wages we are offering.

Its really only the english teams that have been splashing major cash this summer. Everyone else including the two in spain have been in financial trouble.

 

[zenith]

He's hardly an urgent buy. No big deal if the club keep haggling for a 2-3 million price reduction and complete on deadline day. No harm in that approach.

 

[NotQuiteManc]

IMHO, he is a not an urgent buy. Plus, I would like United to do what Juventus have been doing lately by getting players on free transfers.

Having said, I wonder who is the third LB in the list. Alaba? Gaya?

 

[M Bison]

Confused by this one, even more so after today’s result. Much bigger issues to deal with than LB.

 

[VP89]

Confused by this one, even more so after today’s result. Much bigger issues to deal with than LB.

Shaw is often injured and Telles enables Brandon to compete with AWB.

 

[Macedonian Red]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

 

[Berbasbullet]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

Dortmund?

 

[izec]

Dortmund?

it is BS, probably a fake account. Nothing on his Insta or Twitter

 

[Mickeza]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

Dortmund? Facebook? Sky sports? Think you’ve been duped.

 

[gorky_utd]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

Fake I guess.

 

[Matriac]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

That FB page is fake. He just reposts Romano's tweets and then sometimes posts a made up story like this one.

We won't buy Telles unless we sell at least 2 players or lose out on Sancho.

We need to get our squad numbers down as I explained in this thread:

This post will explore the reasons for why we haven't confirmed any other signings yet, and why it's complicated to get it all to add up.

The rules for each teams squad for any season in the Premier League states that each team can comprise of a maximum of 25 players, 17 of which can be anyone, the remaining 8 needs to have homegrown status to be allowed in the squad. On top of this you can have an unlimited amount of U-21 players that can be utilized in the squad for games in the Premier League. This squad needs to be confirmed at the end of the transfer window, and if your name is not on the list by then you won't be allowed to play in the Premier League until you can be put on the list at the next transfer window. You can feature in domestic cups, but most senior players wouldn't like to not be eligible for league games.

We currently have 27 Senior Squad members, good thing is 15 of those have Homegrown status, so we have options. However, if we don't sell anyone we will have to leave 2 senior players out of the squad that can play Premier League matches, and that's before buying anyone else. Below I'll list our squad with some relevant info for this and next season.

Senior Squad Members
Keepers:

Name:	Homegrown?	Contract Ending Summer 2021	Option for another year?
David de Gea
Dean Henderson	Yes
Sergio Romero		Yes	Yes
Lee Grant	Yes	Yes	No

Grant is a likely candidate to be left out of the PL squad if need be, unless we move on Romero. I would guess Grant might move into our coaching team at some level once his contract runs out next summer.

Defenders:

Name:	Homegrown?	Contract Ending Summer 2021	Option for another year?
Harry Maguire	Yes
Victor Lindelöf
Chris Smalling	Yes
Eric Bailly
Marcos Rojo		Yes	No
Axel Tuanzebe	Yes
Phil Jones	Yes
Luke Shaw	Yes
Aaron Wan-Bissaka	Yes
Timothy Fosu-Mensah	Yes	Yes	No

As I understand we are hoping to sell Smalling, Rojo, Jones. Though Rojo's contract runs out next summer, so if we want to get rid of all 3 it's more important to sell the two others if we can't sell them all.

Midfielders:

Name:	Homegrown?	Contract Ending Summer 2021	Option for another year?
Nemanja Matic
Paul Pogba	Yes	Yes	Yes
Donny van de Beek
Scott McTominay	Yes
Fred
Bruno Fernandes
Jesse Lingard	Yes	Yes	Yes
Andreas Pereira	Yes
Juan Mata		Yes	Yes

Attackers:

Name:	Homegrown?	Contract Ending Summer 2021	Option for another year?
Marcus Rashford	Yes
Daniel James	Yes
Anthony Martial
Odion Ighalo		No, but Jan 31st 2021

U-21 Regular First Team Squad Members

Name:	U-21 for how much longer	Will be Homegrown?
Diogo Dalot	1 Season (this)	Unsure, I think he missed it by 1 year? Unless this season counts.
Brandon Williams	2 Seasons	Yes
Mason Greenwood	3 Seasons	Yes

I'm only listing those U-21 that have featured regularly last season and who many consider part of the senior squad, Mengi and others come on top of these.


How to interpret the Squad Bingo:
As mentioned above, unless we sell anyone we will have to leave out 2 Senior players from the Premier League squad. For all we know, some might even have it in their contract that we can't drop them from the PL squad or they are owed x amount of money or something along those lines. If we buy anyone else like Sancho we'll have to leave out 3 players. Another factor in this is our negotiation power with clubs that might want to buy our undesired players. If they know we have to sell them to get down to our squad quota or we can't even use them, then they are more likely to lowball offer to us. Possibly what has happened with Roma and Smalling. We said we bought VdB earlier than planned because we had to as others wanted to close a deal, but before then we had to drop one player, Grant might have been the easy choice then since he will retire anyway, but for now we have to drop two.

Ighalo (likely) leaves in January, opening up one spot, so we have room for a winter addition at least if someone becomes available.

Looking onto next summer, if we sell nobody either now or in January. 7 players have contracts ending, 4 of those have options for another year. We'll guaranteed either extend or sign a new contract with Pogba at least. That means that we can potentially have 21 Senior Squad members next summer (with Ighalo having left earlier if no replacement in Jan, 6 more out of contract and Dalot no longer U-21), with 12/13 (of required 8) having Homegrown status. I don't think we will drop all 6, and we might extend with Lingard and possibly Mata. TFM might be offered a new contract if he does well in the coming months, if not he's free to pre-sign with others from January. Many other things may or may not happen as well. Maybe our squad is 23, or 25 if we buy two more players now/Jan.

If we were to sell/get rid of Smalling, Jones, Pereira, Lingard and not offer TFM a new contract, next summer we would have 9 or 10(unsure about Dalot) Homegrown. Some want us to sell James and Tuanzebe (and Dalot) as well. If so we'll be flying close to the limit of 8 and may have to list U21 players like Williams and Greenwood to fit the quota, leaving less room for other senior player additions. This is likely another reason for the criticized "Brexit FC" strategy, why we looked closer at quality long-term additions with Homegrown status, since it seemed likely we would get rid of a lot of our older ones. If we buy Sancho this window he will be Homegrown, but not if we buy next summer (unless I'm mistaken).

This also explains why we can't easily take punts on cheap players like Jens Petter Hauge as many have wanted lately, he would be U-21 for this season, but next summer he would be a senior squad member with no Homegrown status. Which player in the squad's place would he take? Mata has no homegrown, but plays a different role. Pereira is perhaps a good shout, but we will lose out on another Homegrown squad member.

Conclusion:
There are a lot of possibilities to consider with how to make our current squad fit the quota of 25 for this and the next season, plus leaving room for desired additions. As mentioned I have no idea if we are unable to drop some/most players from the PL Squad due to contractual obligations. There are several players we would like to sell now, but the covid climate is probably not making that easier, plus the fact that clubs know that we HAVE to sell players now. Especially if we want to buy anyone else before the window closes. It's a game of chicken, and what losses we might be willing to take when it all comes down to the deadline now.

I think we will sell Smalling in the end of this window, and if we don't sell Romero we will leave Grant out of the PL squad. But if we want to buy any other players we have to sell someone, or leave someone out of the squad. This is another reason why we can't drop our interest in Sancho to instead buy 3 other squad players, cause there's currently no room in the squad.

I'm not sure how much of this is news to most people on here, but it's a thread I've been wanting to write for some days as I see so many wondering why we aren't all over cheap deals or why we haven't signed more players yet. The simple answer is we have to sell, and do what we can to not end up players short of homegrown status in the longer run (good thing our academy really helps with this).

 

[Macedonian Red]

https://www.facebook.com/1FabrizioRomano/

This is the page.

 

[Adam-Utd]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

HERE YOU GO
Ban expected for Macedonian red pending moderation. Final paperwork needs to be submitted, but total agreement with the mods that this post is a load of bull.

ban expected to be structured as 5+2 days, the mods have been desperate to ban and they’ve finally got their man. Statement due to follow a medical.

 

[charlenefan]

Looks like he played the full 90 minutes yesterday

 

[Fooza]

HERE YOU GO
Ban expected for Macedonian red pending moderation. Final paperwork needs to be submitted, but total agreement with the mods that this post is a load of bull.

ban expected to be structured as 5+2 days, the mods have been desperate to ban and they’ve finally got their man. Statement due to follow a medical.

Even reading that info you can tell it's so fake, he will never say here we go but no bid is sent yet. Plus Dortmund was mentioned too, cant even get the faking right.

 

[Joseunited]

HERE YOU GO
Ban expected for Macedonian red pending moderation. Final paperwork needs to be submitted, but total agreement with the mods that this post is a load of bull.

ban expected to be structured as 5+2 days, the mods have been desperate to ban and they’ve finally got their man. Statement due to follow a medical.

 

[Revan]

€20M is too much? Hell, I’ve got a fiver if you need it Woody.

For a non world class fullback with 9 months on his contract? Yes, 20m is definitely too much.

 

[devips]

That FB page is fake. He just reposts Romano's tweets and then sometimes posts a made up story like this one.

We won't buy Telles unless we sell at least 2 players or lose out on Sancho.

We need to get our squad numbers down as I explained in this thread:

Excellent post. Makes it easy to understand the dilemma the club face.

 

[roonster09]

HERE YOU GO
Ban expected for Macedonian red pending moderation. Final paperwork needs to be submitted, but total agreement with the mods that this post is a load of bull.

ban expected to be structured as 5+2 days, the mods have been desperate to ban and they’ve finally got their man. Statement due to follow a medical.

 

[Penna]

https://www.facebook.com/1FabrizioRomano/

This is the page.

Haven't you noticed the "1" before the name?

 

[foolsgold]

Time to play hard ball, even at the risk of losing the player. Sure he’s decent but its not super pressing to upgrade LB.

We need to think longer term, the “united tax” needs to end, a public demonstration of resolution here may pay dividends in many future negotiations.

I don’t care if we have the money, I’d rather we walked away than pay rip off prices.

 

[AneRu]

Time to play hard ball, even at the risk of losing the player. Sure he’s decent but its not super pressing to upgrade LB.

We need to think longer term, the “united tax” needs to end, a public demonstration of resolution here may pay dividends in many future negotiations.

I don’t care if we have the money, I’d rather we walked away than pay rip off prices.

Whilst I understand the need to stand firm on fees its only effective if we are willing to move on and explore alternatives because leaving the team short handed will cost us again. We can lose Shaw for weeks any minute and it's back to Williams.

 

[sillwuka]

If we are haggling over a few million please just buy the man.

Brings in much needed quality on the left. His set piece delivery could be an asset.

 

[Lash]

Looks like he played the full 90 minutes yesterday

Thought he came off around 75 mins?

 

[dinostar77]

I'm hoping this does come off. He's known for his excellent crossing, penalties and set pieces. If he can produce assist numbers anywhere near the Liverpool FBs numbers then we will have a huge upgrade at FB in our XI.

 

[GledTheRed]

Thought he came off around 75 mins?

Was he crying?

 

[11101]

Players are assets and I would trust that bankers in these deals have a better clue of what players are worth in this environment more so than fans on the internet.

Clearly they don't as evidenced by the last 8 years. Football players do not behave as assets on a balance sheet.

 

[christinaa]

Yawn zzzzzzzzzz Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
Where are you ED ?1

 

[Zlatattack]

Yeah. 20m for a player aged 27-28 playing in Portuguese league in the last year of contract? If he was that good why didn't any other team snap him up already?

Vardy, Wright, 26 year old Fernando's...

 

[Feed Me]

HERE WE GO ALEX TELLES To Manchester United It’s time...Alex Telles to Manchester United Done deal pending medical and paperworks. Final details to be done and the player will fly to England for a medical. United have asked Porto for time to make payment, United want to ensure that the bid they have structured to Dortmund will be accepted before making the payment. HERE WE GO.... #mufc Sky Sports

From Romano on FB.

Amateur

 

[Bestietom]

Move on to the Ukraine guy, who can also play as left sided CB.

 

[Lash]

Was he crying?

I didn't watch, saw on flashscore, but it did have the crying emoji next to his name.

 

[GledTheRed]

I didn't watch, saw on flashscore, but it did have the crying emoji next to his name.

That's all the information i need my brudda.

Done Delio.

 

[Smithy89]

Confused by this one, even more so after today’s result. Much bigger issues to deal with than LB.

It's a massive issue with LB, Shaw is as bang average as you can get and Williams isn't even left footed.

 

[VP89]

It's a massive issue with LB, Shaw is as bang average as you can get and Williams isn't even left footed.

Honestly it looks to me that Shaws infrequent runs forward is more because he has to keep tracking back to cover when we fail to play out from the back quickly enough. I don't see much wrong with him outside of fitness.

 

[Smithy89]

Honestly it looks to me that Shaws infrequent runs forward is more because he has to keep tracking back to cover when we fail to play out from the back quickly enough. I don't see much wrong with him outside of fitness.

Shaw is just another one of them players we hold on to for too long, because we've failed in developing them and continuously giving them bumper contracts.

 

[Lash]

Honestly it looks to me that Shaws infrequent runs forward is more because he has to keep tracking back to cover when we fail to play out from the back quickly enough. I don't see much wrong with him outside of fitness.

Yesterday I felt as though his passing was terrible. There were some easy square balls inside into space he misjudged and is better just running with the ball. Overall I still think he's a good FB, but I can see what a Telles could offer instead of him.