Think the 200k is just the media having a laugh, we can't be that stupid.
Edinson Cavani - SIGNED for United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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so an Ole target was just allowed to sit on their couch for 2x months doing nothing as a free agent?
I think this will be a good signing for us. There are going to be some embarrassing comments to look back on in January
What in the world are you even talking about here??
Some of you really need to get a grip, Christ
feel like i read the same comments about Ighalo, and you think Cavani will be match fit by January?
Cavani, if taken as an isolated signing, is a good one, it’s just that he’s the only forward signing and that is what is laughable.
So you agree with me on what is basically my whole problem with this transfer, yet you actually continue to disagree with me? I'm honestly baffled.
My problem is not with Cavani, I'd love nothing else but for him to be an incredible success. But what is the realistic chance of that happening? If the window ends and it is only him and VDB as new additions, signing Cavani so late definitely looks like trying to save face and hide the failure of not being prepared for multiple different scenarios.
I'll be honest, I've accepted the current situation at Manchester United. Don't believe we can actually challenge in the near future, regardless of the players we buy or even managers we appoint. There seems to be something broken in the whole system of how the club operates. I think Ole can come closer to the likes of Liverpool and City, if backed appropriately, but winning the league would be a miraculous achievement. The club needs to either take the blame for the lack of signings and relieve a lot of pressure from the manager, or look for someone else if they don't believe the current one can further develop the team into a domestic and international challenger.
A summer transfer window consisting of VDB and Cavani means at best we are fighting for top 4. Whereas a majority of the fans expect us to close the gap to Liverpool and City this season. In the end Solskjaer will get blamed if we don't meet the expectations, which at this point are just unrealistic. I honestly didn't seriously care who we would get this year, was checking the news on who we were interested in but this is the first time I seriously engage in a conversation about a potential or basically done transfer. But I have this feeling a serious amount of fans had the belief the club would sign Sancho and we would drastically improve from last season's performances, in such a way that we would be reaching our main rivals. If that doesn't happen, the manager will inevitably get crucified, even if it's not entirely his fault. Cavani is just another signing made to distract from the failure of the people responsible in conducting the transfer windows activities and preparations made during the regular season.
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Looking at our transfer history under Woodward's time as CEO, yes we can be that stupid.
Panic buy in what sense? I think its pretty clear he is a Ighalo replacement who will leave in January. He is of much higher quality so will be used more often as opposed to Ole running the front 3 into the ground rather than fielding Ighalo, who was a panic buy
He could be a good short term signing for us. But really, we need some proper signings to take us closer to becoming a top team over the next 2-3 years. And this does little for that. This is more of a "let's scrap for 4th again" signing.
Yet you were able to write with conviction that he is a Woody signing despite saying that no one really knows. We may have had other preferred targets that we were unable to get over the line and so decided to take on a low risk singing, at the end of the day I doubt we would sign him without Ole’s input either way.
Like you, I really don’t know the details but I don’t think it’s fair to tarnish him with the Sanchez brush before he has even kicked a ball for us.
Saves me watching him for the next year to see how he does, thanks
Yeah sorry, this was planned for all the months he has been available but we decided until the last day to bring him in, get him fit and gelled with the team. Please...
I can’t be arsed to read that long post it’s too late. Can’t I agree that I would have liked ziyech for the wing but disagree that Cavani is just another Sanchez signing?So you agree with me on what is basically my whole problem with this transfer, yet you actually continue to disagree with me? I'm honestly baffled.
My problem is not with Cavani, I'd love nothing else but for him to be an incredible success. But what is the realistic chance of that happening? If the window ends and it is only him and VDB as new additions, signing Cavani so late definitely looks like trying to save face and hide the failure of not being prepared for multiple different scenarios.
I'll be honest, I've accepted the current situation at Manchester United. Don't believe we can actually challenge in the near future, regardless of the players we buy or even managers we appoint. There seems to be something broken in the whole system of how the club operates. I think Ole can come closer to the likes of Liverpool and City, if backed appropriately, but winning the league would be a miraculous achievement. The club needs to either take the blame for the lack of signings and relieve a lot of pressure from the manager, or look for someone else if they don't believe the current one can further develop the team into a domestic and international challenger.
A summer transfer window consisting of VDB and Cavani means at best we are fighting for top 4. Whereas a majority of the fans expect us to close the gap to Liverpool and City this season. In the end Solskjaer will get blamed if we don't meet the expectations, which at this point are just unrealistic. I honestly didn't seriously care who we would get this year, was checking the news on who we were interested but this is the first time I seriously engage in a conversation about a potential or basically done transfer. But I have this feeling a serious amount of fans had the belief the club would sign Sancho and we would drastically improve from last season's performances, in such a way that we would be reaching our main rivals. If that doesn't happen, the manager will inevitably get crucified, even if it's not entirely his fault. Cavani is just another signing made to distract from the failure of the people responsible in conducting the transfer windows activities and preparations made during the regular season.
seemingly now here, it’s all or nothing, black or white
so you don't even want to acknowledge that he's so unfit that absolutely no one has any idea at what point he could even make the MUFC bench? You just want to argue about "you can't predict what happens in a year"
Hopefully it works out , but he is clearly a panic buy. He has been a free agent all summer and only now in the last few days do we start discussions, 3 weeks into the season. If he were not a last minute panic buy there is no reason why he was not here weeks ago getting up to speed. Now we have have him nearly a month into the season and probably another few weeks before he is match fit.
You would hope by the law of averages it is time for one one of these types of moves to come good for us, but the odds are not great when we gamble huge contracts on players with their best years behind them. There is a reason he is currently club- less.
I don't really care if you read it, the idea was to express my whole point in more details so I don't have to do it again.
I'd like nothing more than the transfer window ending and getting on with the actual football without the distractions of potential new signings. It gets really tiresome to talk about the same things every time. Let's hope Cavani does well as it seems the deal is basically done.
Ighalo's contract finishes 30 jan 2021, and judging by current form he is not staying. Between Cavani and Ighalo I would pick Cavani all day, good signing for us, at least we upgraded in that department if we end up getting him
Why bring him in at the start of the window and pay his wages when Ighalo is still here and will be until Jan. By signing a Igahlo replacement at the end window it would have saved around 1.7m. I mean, for all the hate Woodward gets, if we had some of the people on here running the club, I have no doubt we would eventually end up like Leeds of the 00's....there's a remarkable amount of Ridsdale's on here...
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given the national team coaches comments about how poor Cavani is atm in terms of fitness and conditioning, when do you imagine cavani is even good enough for our bench?
I really hope this doesn't go through. Never been a fan of Cavani. I fear this will make us look like absolute fools. Once again.
The only upside I can see to this is that it fails so spectacularly that there's no way Woodward can keep his job.
So essentially we’ve just upgraded on Ighalo who wasn’t playing anyway. You can see why people are losing their shit then? I’m not overstating it, but when we get fecked very hard, don’t surprised.
atleast we agree there
FFS , we would bring him as early as we can in because we are in the business of football and trying to win matches , at least that is the way we used to be.
Can't believe that some people are trying to delude themselves into believing that this is not a last minute panic buy because we are inept in the transfer market.
Not saying he won't turn out to a good move for us , but if does it will certainly have been by accident and not design on foot of good planning by us.
I think some people don't even understand the potential fitness issues. He's had no pre season and has not played a match since the start of March.
As I said, there's a remarkable amount of Ridsdale's on here...
If you can't understand we already have a back up striker here that is on a guaranteed contract that we can't get rid off until Jan and Cavani is being brought in as a back up striker, whatever is there more to say..
What do you mean? As far as I know they only mentioned he wouldn't be called this time because he hasn't played for a few months... nothing we didn't know.
He is a top professional, I doubt there is too much wrong with him besides the lack of competitive football. He will have work to do of course, but he is not on a wheelchair or anything
not my words mate.
Falcao had just had a serious injury, so not a good comparison. Ibra is the better comparison.
Given the circumstances at least we're getting someone in. But of course it does appear desperate. We'd all hoped we moved on from the days of the likes of Falcao and Schweinsteiger. If Cavani starts on the bench, there's no real impact to our team. But if Cavani starts in the first 11 he's probably benching Martial which is probably bad in the long run. So yeah, mixed feelings on it all.
I don't know for sure if it's all down to him how our transfers have been handled, but I am so f***ing sick of Woodward.
I don't know for sure if it's all down to him how our transfers have been handled, but I am so f***ing sick of Woodward.
how long had ibra been sitting on his couch before joining us?
I think he's spot on. We're never getting back to the top with these leeches at the club. Ed needs to go, desperately.
I seem to recall many wanting him a few years ago. How times change. Yes he s older and slower but if he s even half the player he once was he ll give us some important depth and a bit of fear factor, combined with hopefully someone inspirational for lads like Mason and Tony to learn from.
The one thing i dont doubt is that Ole knows how to create a team atmosphere - and so I hope that if this happens that that means he sanctioned it with the understand he ll help that team spirit.
Im very sceptical though he can perform the way we hope - so lets hope he ll prove us wrong.
The one thing i dont doubt is that Ole knows how to create a team atmosphere - and so I hope that if this happens that that means he sanctioned it with the understand he ll help that team spirit.
Im very sceptical though he can perform the way we hope - so lets hope he ll prove us wrong.
You can make that point without pulling numbers out of thin air to sensationalize things
The reaction to such a low risk signing for us has been incredible, like all the frustration over not getting in every other target is being aimed at this deal when the window has yet to close officially yet.
Ole brought in young James to build for the future, things change suddenly he brings In 2 old strikers to up the future team? Guess he's under pressure to show the current result
Zlatan score 38 goals in Ligue 1 before leaving PSG for us. Zlatan didn't have niggling or serious injuries either. Not even Alexis Sanchez is comparison to this case.
This is like Pato To Chelsea if you want to exaggerate.
do you know where that quote comes from?
It is not from the interview with Jose Herrera (Uruguayan fitness coach) that's been arround over here.
As far as I know, he only said Cavani was left out because he hasn't played, and was training by himself with no club. He mentioned next month (for the next matches), they will study if he has found a club, is trainning and if he has played some minutes already.
Being on the sidelines with Covid and all for half a year is not the same as recovering from a serious injury. Recovering fitness may take him a couple of weeks, and then Ole will start using him to get him match fit. I’m sure he wants to be fully part of the team by the time we play PSG.
When you see Harry Kane move you know Zlatan would bang in the PL.
And that’s no disrespect to Harry Kane.
And that’s no disrespect to Harry Kane.
I mean it was reported that he would be on "massive wages" and that correlates to 250k+ at United, no? I don't think anyone has the specifics yet, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'd be at or close to 300k p/w. I don't see it as low risk at all, I see it more as a symbol of where we're headed as a club, and what path we're currently going down. From all the positive press we had at the end of the season to where we're at now, without playing a great deal of football has to be on the ones running the club. They've had a disastrous summer, and I am not even that upset by losing out on Sancho, but we've been quoted 120m for him all summer, and we surely would know if that's something we're comfortable paying right away? If we're not, move on and get someone else in. We still don't have a single RW in the squad, and haven't had one since Nani. That's unforgivable in my mind, a sackable offense in itself.
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