If Ole is unsuccessful as United manager - Will it impact his reputation for you?

[Strelok]

No, he did decent job and gave his best. That's not good enough and it will have no impact on his legacy.

Agreed.

He has done pretty good in term of rebuilding, clearing the overpaid deadwoods and will leave a good foundation for whoever next. I just hope if it's time, like he goes on and can't win the next 3 PL matches he'd have the balls to resign. That way he can leave holding his head high.

 

[Bondi77]

Plenty of great players haven’t been great managers but they’re still remembered as great players.

Paul Scholes, Bobby Charlton.
Mark Hughes is a decent manager but I always think of him as one of my all time favourite players.

 

[Volumiza]

Paul Scholes, Bobby Charlton.
Mark Hughes is a decent manager but I always think of him as one of my all time favourite players.

The game is littered with them all over the world but thankfully the memory has a habit of applying rose tinted spectacles and the glory days will always be remembered and at best the managerial lows will be forgotten.

 

[ekestubbe]

The best thing he can do for his legacy is to realize the task is too big for him and resign for the good of the club. Instead it seems he's fine with bringing the club down even further only to inevitably get sacked. Maybe the money from his contract is too good to give up.

 

[Samid]

He will be dead to me like Keane, Neville, et al.

 

[beer&grill]

The best thing he can do for his legacy is to realize the task is too big for him and resign for the good of the club. Instead it seems he's fine with bringing the club down even further only to inevitably get sacked. Maybe the money from his contract is too good to give up.

I wouldn’t blame him for not resigning even leaving aside the financial incentive. He’s clearly trying bis best, even though his best is clearly not good enough, but it won’t tarnish my opinion of him. It’s not like he’s deliberately sabotaging the team. The board is to blame for entrusting such a difficult task to a Norway league manager, a task that would prove to be difficult even for the best managers.

 

[Pav1878]

Nope. Not in the slightest. He is United through and through and clearly loves the club and wants the best for it.

The fact he is falling short of the high level expected at United as a manager shouldn't tarnish his reputation.

 

[K Stand Knut]

No not for me as a player he was fantastic. As a manager he is hopeless. He is not going to resign. No sane person would do that and lose all the money. He is going to have to be sacked but Ed may sweeten it by saying by mutual consent. He has to win against Everton. I think he may play for a draw and get away with it. Just like he did against Chelsea. Everton is not in good form right now but Ancelloti is a wily old fox and may decide he is going to defend himself to see how we would flounder.

Think I agree with this. Even if he wins the next two CL games, I think the club might cut him loose if we don’t win our two league games as well.

Get a new manager in during a run of ‘easier’ fixtures and hopefully get the squad settled again before the harder games in December.

At this time in the season, it’d be a massive question of who though. No decent European club is going to allow their manager to go unless they quit, which isn’t going to happen and this narrows the choices to Poch and Allegri, IMO

 

[Red_toad]

Should never have been given the job and he’s doing the best he can. So how can anyone hold anything against him?

 

[laughtersassassin]

No he tried his best in a job he never should have been offered full time. He made a decent go at it too. But he hasn't developed us enough and I really think it's time to go.

7 points from 6 games is insanely poor. And for those always complaining about people being reactionary I stand by this point even if we win 8-0 tonight.

 

[Revaulx]

Liverpool fans still love Souness the player, despite Souness the manager seemingly going out of his way to sabotage the club and leave the squad in a far worse state than it was when he took it on. Which Ole very much hasn’t done.

 

[pocco]

No, he wants to do what he can for the club and I can't fault him for that. If it went on for years though then it might leave a bad taste in the mouth, more on Woodwards part though.

 

[Verbalkint]

Not at all. He'll always be a legend to me and a fantastic servant to the club. He's probably not the right fit as the manager and not helped by the fact that Ed Woodward can't do his job either. We'll always love Ole.

 

[adexkola]

No, why would it? Can separate his tenure as player and beloved legend from that of manager who failed to perform within a dysfunctional setup

 

[McGrathsipan]

As the title says. Curious if people will be able to separate Ole as a player and Ole as a manager.

Of course and easily.

He's a shite manager.
Great striker

Neither one changes the other.

Plus it doesn't really matter as I doubt the opinions of people annoy him

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

No. He hasn't disgraced himself or the club in any way. He's tried his best and acted professionally throughout. I'm still not completely writing him off, but I'm not sure he's going to make us win again.

But separating the player from everything else is easy enough. He'll still be a club legend no matter what happens. Mark Hughes was one of my favourite players as a kid, and I still have very fond memories of that period of time even though he went on to be a moany old git as a manager. Giggs too, still a childhood hero despite being a shit human being now.

Whatever the player did whilst wearing a red shirt isn't negated by anything after that.

 

[Chipper]

Kind of. I'll still think very ondly of him unless he starts behaving innapropriately/doing some crazy things all of a sudden, which I can't see happening.

I don't really get the complete separate entity thing. If anyone goes on to think "great player, not very good good manager" after his time here then instead of all thoughts being positive when hearing his name some wouldn't be so that would by definition be impacting his reputation somewhat.

Now I'm not going put that much emphasis on the managerial part if he fails and I'd still think he was a great but it has to do something. The only way it couldn't would be for me to never think about his managerial stint should it end up unsuccessful or have it erased from my memory altogether.

 

[passing-wind]

I'll always remember Solskjaer as an absolutely quality player and lethal finisher. His lack of ascendancy in management is just a typical example that good players don't always make good managers unless there's a million variables that run in their favour, especially when it comes to leadership and having an intellectual capacity to understand a game of football objectively.

 

[TheDoc]

Nah. His achievements as a player are completely separate from those as a manager, untainted no matter how big a mess he makes from here on out, and beyond that I think he's done as well as you'd expect in the latter role as well. What he inherited here, wasn't the Manchester United of the Ferguson era, it was a ship taking in water on the verge of capsizing pretty much so even if he proves incapable of carrying us all the way to the top I still think he deserves a lot of credit for at least having steered us clear of that disaster.

And besides that: Come on, stop the negativity please or at least halt it for a few more weeks. We're nine points clear of the top with one game to go, and another thirty-one to go beyond that. The other contenders haven't started out great either, so there's no reason to consider this campaign a write-off yet and all this doom and gloom is way premature. A bad start to the league this season? Yeah, abysmal in fact by any standard considering the quality we now possess. But... We're only six games in, with the exception of two games we haven't looked anywhere near as hopeless as we did for the first half last year, and we've proven in the Champions League that we're a force to be reckoned with when our players just decide on it.

There's no reason to think this is anything more than your standard dip in form, the kind all teams go through every now and then. No reason at all, not yet anyways.

 

[luck&neat]

As many others have said I think his reputation as a player and manager are two different things.

Will always love him from his playing days - absolutely no question, and he comes across as a genuinely nice person.

As a manager however, I feel his inate niceness is part of the (but not the main) reason in my gut i've never felt he was the right person for the job permanently. He's done positive things (reducing deadwood and bringing back the positivity etc) but it's getting harder to argue his case with the inconsistency/bad results.

So overall, no, it won't effect how I feel about him.

As for his time as manager - you can't live on your reputation forever..

 

[Gabagoo]

No, of course not. Ole will always be a legend.

 

[iato89]

Tricky questions, I think it will only dent it slightly, but the longer he stays the more the dent will be bigger.

 

[FrankDrebin]

No.

He's been an ok appointment who's made some good signings but I dont think Ole is capable of taking us up to the next level.

 

[El Zoido]

Not in the slightest, he’s putting the club first no matter what. Even if he leaves tomorrow, the club has progressed under him.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

No. His playing career and his managerial one are two completely different things. Will forever be a Utd legend as a player but if he’s not a good enough manager then he has to go. That’s why what he’s done as a player should have absolutely no bearing in deciding whether he should be given extra time or whether he’s sacked or not.

 

[Oldyella]

Not for me. Was one of my favourite players at the time he was with the club and what happens as manager wont change that. I also wouldn't consider his time with us as a total failure either, hes not quite good enough (imo) but he hasn't been a Moyes type disaster either.

 

[RedFish]

No chance. I watched more United and football back then and I do now, and was pretty obsessed with footy back. Solskjaer is a big part of my memory of those days. No way will that ever be affected. No chance at all.

 

[LARulz]

No cos I thought he was a shit manager before too

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

His legacy as a player is cemented forever. He clearly loves the clubs and is doing his best, which unfortunately isn’t good enough. The thing is we’ve seen he’s capable of getting the team on a run, it’s the consistently over the season which is lacking. If the next few league results go against us he could be in trouble, rightly so unfortunately.

 

[Havak]

Not at all.

Great player for us and his managerial run will not change that. I always thought the job was too big for him anyway, so after purging the squad of players we didn't want and singing some players I and a lot of us like I always expected him to leave for a more experienced and tactically superior manager.

 

[2cents]

Always be Ole the player for me. In my head he was never really meant to be manager, and I still kind of look at him as a caretaker. Will always deeply appreciate everything he’s done for this club no matter what.

 

[Stadjer]

They're separate - I think most people would say "good player, not so good manager." He still brought about some great memorable win streaks

Seems this way yes. I would rather have Ole the player than Ole the manager for this team.

 

[charlenefan]

As the title says. Curious if people will be able to separate Ole as a player and Ole as a manager.

Define unsuccessful?

It depends on what expectations you had for a novice manager taking over one of the biggest clubs in the world

My expectation for Ole was to leave the team in a better position he found it and so far for me he's done that

I never expected us to win league titles under him

 

[tomaldinho1]

Not at all - he could have come in and lost every single game before being sacked and it wouldn't change his reputation as a player.

 

[pcaming]

I never expected much success with him as manager. There's clearly issues, but also he has shown that he can compete. It would be a shame if he is unsuccessful, but I believe he's given it his all and honestly at least has changed the mood and direction of the club.

 

[Rossa]

Fecking hell - he has better results than Klopp had during their first 100 matches, yet you guys go on as if he is the worst manager in the history of time. Give it a feckin break! He has done a great job getting us back into the CL - playing great football in the CL. He secured us 3rd place last season, but this league campaign has, admittedly, been extremely poor. If he can improve that and win the next three matches, we are back in it. This will be a crazy season and all teams will concede points. I don't expect us to win the league this season, but I do expect a good CL-campaign and a top four finish. Hopefully, we are able to secure a cup title.

Should he fail as a manager, it should not tarnish his legacy as a player.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Kind of. I'll still think very ondly of him unless he starts behaving innapropriately/doing some crazy things all of a sudden, which I can't see happening.

I don't really get the complete separate entity thing. If anyone goes on to think "great player, not very good good manager" after his time here then instead of all thoughts being positive when hearing his name some wouldn't be so that would by definition be impacting his reputation somewhat.

Now I'm not going put that much emphasis on the managerial part if he fails and I'd still think he was a great but it has to do something. The only way it couldn't would be for me to never think about his managerial stint should it end up unsuccessful or have it erased from my memory altogether.

Good post.

 

[OleTheGreat]

For me he will always be a legend. Even as a manager I think he has done great things for the club from the day he was appointed as a caretaker manager. I still want to believe he would've done better if we would've gotten the players he wanted. If he is fired, I will only blame the board and not Ole.

 

[b82REZ]

He'll always be a legend in my eyes because of his playing days.

Despite my feelings towards him as manager I know he makes all his decisions with the clubs best interest at heart and is trying his best, unfortunately his best isn't good enough to be the main man at United. Very similar to his playing career tbh.

In all honesty I think a lot of posters overplay his managerial ability because of his career with us.

 

[sugar_kane]

He'll have gone up in my estimation no matter what happens because he came in with the best intentions to try and solve what was a huge cultural issue at the club and try his damndest to get us back to being the Manchester United he knew and we all love.

He has never put himself before the club like Mourinho, and if he were to leave now the squad and the culture would be in a miles better position than it was when he took over.

If he brings us success even better, but his managerial stint so far while at times incredibly frustrating (and let's face it, occasionally complete shit from a performance perspective) has only made me like him more.

As a side note I get the impression a lot of the people who talk in such disrespectful terms about him weren't fans when he was a player.