2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Some quality wumming by Mattingly on CNN right now - "You could make an argument that Joe Biden has a clearer path to 306 than Donald Trump has to 270".
 
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Mike Smalling said:
These morons are going to have to actually present something factual at some point. They speak in complete generalities - "increasingly clear" means nothing without evidence.
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But see, people like us and other Caftards seek evidence, proof, quantifiable data, and so forth. A large percentage of GOP supporters are simply not seeking such. They just want to hear "the other" is impacting their mode of life. Persecution complex perhaps. Being a former small-town Texas, deeply religious, uneducated voter I know all about this. I hate seeing my family and many friends still stuck in this scope.
 

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jeff_goldblum said:
The difficulty with winning over the religious right is that their end goal is a society in which transgressing their take on 'Christian values' is illegal, rather than one in which elected officials live their lives in accordance with 'Christian values', which they just see as a nice bonus.

If they actively voted for the candidate who, in their individual choices/behaviour, adhered most to their values, that would be something a (straight, male) Democratic politician could work with. But they don't, they vote on the basis of which candidate is more likely to embed 'Christian values' into the legal system, which inevitably will be the Republican.
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The argument isn't to dictate policies to their desires though. Biden ran better with religious voters far more than previous Democratic nominees despite his platform and party being heralded as anti-God, pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ, pro-diversity etc. So it can't have been 'religious right' voters who went to him as opposed to normal religious people who live to their faith but aren't bigoted to others. The conservative commentary is Biden just talking on their level about his religious faith was a clever move. It may have netted him enough pro-life people who aren't fanatics to vote Democrat to cut into Trump's margins among the uber evangelicals.
 

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The way I see it, if Trump's team file a lawsuit in a state it's because they know they're losing it. :D
 

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Fergies Gum said:
That's just a reminder that the "old school republicans" are just as bad as Trump. The likes of Gingrich and Karl Rove deserve a large share of blame for the damage that has been done in the country in recent times.
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That clown's comeuppance in 2012 was joyful.

Newt got pushed out of politics when his own party rebelled at him. Bit of karma there for his uber-partisan hackery.
 

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Scarlett Dracarys said:
He did. I don't even remember exactly what he said because it's irrelevant like him and all the other dummies that voted for Trump. Something about Biden and his views.
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Ah, gotcha. He ended up posting something also about how “selfishly it’s better for [him] if schools open back up full time...” which told me all I needed to know about him.
 

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jeff_goldblum said:
Here's a question: is the failure of Trump to disenfrancise enough Democrats in the right places to win (like W Bush did) a case of the incompetence of his team (don’t think any part of their team was too focused on mass defections from those identified as Democrats, more focus on cultivating then current undecideds & first time voters) / a lack of support from Republicans in positions of power at state level (this doesn’t appear so, there was always some element of key Trump support at every stop in the state, definitely impactful members of the state GOP; maybe not enough from key Washington leaders overall, but the states were pretty good) , is it because the voter coalitions behind the main parties have changed so the same tactics wouldn't disenfranchise the right voters (no doubt some of the drilling down on 2016 & the Mueller Report, etc. focused many on potential 2016 realities that could be avoided this time), or is it just that Trump is so unpopular that the tried-and-tested dirty tricks just weren't enough and he's having to resort to more blatant ones (delegitimising mail-in ballots) to stay in the race? (think this will ultimately be it, though; think we may have won the them undecideds & first time voters by them being appalled to a certain extent by Trump).
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