What's he ever done that's anywhere close to what those guys did? Unless you're a 13 year old.
Eh? Who said all older movies are great and no new movies are?I strongly disagree, there are lot of shit older movies, and there are some quality newer movies. It's just that studios prefer quantity and visual over quality these days, it's simple as that.
AgreedI strongly disagree, there are lot of shit older movies, and there are some quality newer movies. It's just that studios prefer quantity and visual over quality these days, it's simple as that.
Eh? Who said all older movies are great and no new movies are?
Aged very well. Might be Carpenter best work.The thing! Not watched that for a long long time, will revisit it this week.
Agreed
Have to disagree with the majority in here. It's nostalgia and a case of watch more movies.
Todays days films are just as good as the ones from the past era. Maybe they don't hit mainstream audiences as much as the past but let's forgot films like Blade Runner and John Carpenter The Thing(Two films with a unique look and sound)bombed in cinema's when they were first released.
Michael Mann proved digital can be just as good with Miami Vice and Collateral, Sean Baker filmed Tangerine on a "iphone", Cuarón was able to bring the long take back due to technological advances in Children Of Men. And soundtracks are the same. Under The Skin is up there with greatest of all time, the Safdie brothers have produced amazing result working with Oneohtrix Point Never and Drive basically invented a sub genre of music.
The difference with older films is time. As the years go on they grow a reputation and the way we view them changes. I'm sure in a decade time people will be asking why we don't make films like Blade Runner 2049 anymore, completely forgetting it was a film that almost no one saw.
We're talking about the aesthetics of film making, ie film v digital, changes in sound recording/mixing and the cumulative effect that these effects have on the viewing experience, rather than the relative merits of old films.Was just making a comparison between new and old films, I think both can be good, all depends on the film.
Michael Bay and the transformers saga, great special effects but all round terrible scripts that revolve around Shia LaBeouf and mark Wahlberg.Well that's because Marlon Brando and Al Pacino are a bit better at the acting thing than Shia LeBouef and Rebel Wilson.
Some films stand up due to nostalgia, some are just better than anything out now. It's easier than ever to hide a shit script and cast behind special effects.
I believe the James bond film tomorrow never dies entire budget was covered by product placement.For want of a better word, there was definitely an innocence - or even naivety - about a lot of pre millennium movies that gives them a charm that, sadly, is eroded away nowadays through a few things.
Focus groups, test screenings, an unwillingness or fear of taking risks or offending. These things would prevent so many of these movies that we hold dear from ever being made.
I watched two movies with my daughters this weekend. Trading Places was one. A classic of its genre, but that whole sequence on the train with the costumes and the gorilla were both ridiculous. That would never happen today, in fact the writers would be fired, but it worked because it wasn't taking itself seriously at all.
The other was iRobot. Not a bad film, but polished to the point of ruin, and the amount of Converse and Audi product placement really grated. Just felt much more by-the-numbers
A lot is nostalgia but I also think people accepted films back then for what they were.
I love older films, especially comedies.
Growing up, the likes of American Pie were funny, but as I get older I realise they were pretty shit really.
They just don't compare to well thought out comedy like Trading Places and such.
As for action, again, you took it for what it was back then. Commando for example is a good watch, but imagine having one guy take on an Army now? Oh yeah we had that. John Wick 3 and it was shit
I haaate the animation in the Simpsons since they switched to computer animation. It's awful. It's a decent way to compare the feeling I have with old/new films tbh. Sure technically it's "better", but it just looks so sterile and boring, like an AI just churned it out. Such a lack of charm and personality compared to the original, as show in this intro comparisonWhat about the Simpsons? Storylines have taken a dip from the early seasons but it seems people shit on all new seasons where the animation is 1000x better regardless of the actual quality of the episode.
That's irrelevant. If you liked the movie as a kid/young adult you'll have nostalgic emotions towards it. Space Jam and most old Bond movies are good examples. Because it's Bond and you watched it with your grandad you like them but many of them are terrible films. Star Wars Episode 1 is like that as well. You got a generation of people discovering Star Wars through it and loving it as kids. Your brain simply ignores thing you don't like. You elevate the things you like about the movie more.Already mentioned that
It's a good shout, but I'm not old enough to feel nostalgia about these. I wasn't even born! They just have a charm that I don't think could be recreated, unless perhaps made in exactly the same way. Which I find weird, and difficult to define what that way is.
I’ve not seen any of these as a kid thoughThat's irrelevant. If you liked the movie as a kid/young adult you'll have nostalgic emotions towards it. Space Jam and most old Bond movies are good examples. Because it's Bond and you watched it with your grandad you like them but many of them are terrible films. Star Wars Episode 1 is like that as well. You got a generation of people discovering Star Wars through it and loving it as kids. Your brain simply ignores thing you don't like. You elevate the things you like about the movie more.
Have you seen them as an adult and liked them?I’ve not seen any of these as a kid though
Unpopular opinion but Marvel movies are shit too..
Honestly? A lot of movies have too much going on. 'Less is more' sometimes, I really believe that. The cgi scenes are TOO packed with shit going on (Guardians of the galaxy is particularly guilty of this - but it works because it takes the time to 'focus' the audience deliberately), and some movies are far too self aware for their own good.
Movies as a form of escapism don't work at times because they're not visceral enough and they seem 4th wall breaking. The gay/lesbian kiss? It's so inevitably coming at some point it's no longer unexpected or 'shocking', but it feels like filmmakers are trying to 'shock' their audience with something that's no longer stigmatic. The tiny 5 foot tall girl? She's going to beat the shit out of the 6'5 former navy boxer at some point. Actors don't act - they just play themselves and joke about the plot all movie. If they don't take their story seriously how can we?
Not talking about practical over CGI here.
Just watching Police Academy, and it's great entertainment, but I'm imagining the same scenes with modern cameras, sound, and actors, and I just can't imagine it working. I think I'd be turning it off pretty quickly. Is it pure old fashioned charm? This came out before I was born, so it isn't nostalgia here for me.
Would a new film, done with old cameras, lighting, mics, and processing do the trick?
Tackleberry is 100% a Trump Voter.I also rewatched Police Academy recently and enjoyed it. I was surprised by the amount of non-PC jokes in it that I don’t even remember noticing when I watched it originally, but now they sort of grate, and you think “imagine the outcry if they included them in a film nowadays“
If they remade Police Academy it would star some insufferable asshat that is in every other comedy movie being made. Same old faces in same old roles.
This is what I'm thinking. People are just mentioning the best of the older films and the trash new ones.Older films are not easily available to us, most people will have to search and download. In such situations, we tend to select the critically acclaimed ones because obviously we do not want to waste our time with shite films.
Compare that to mainstream films which is force fed to us, the sample is skewed heavily towards the older films. Its really just a case of selection bias.