There we go
We created enough to win? Are you having a laugh? This is the highest level of professional football ffs you don't just shrug your shoulders and say oh well we had some chances when it's 1-1 with 25 minutes to play. If we keep our shape and focus after Cavani hit the bar we win the match. That's how well managed clubs string out results on a consistent basis. Imagine if we had this attitude under Sir Alex. Well, we played well, missed some chances, but it's the 65th minute and we haven't scored the manager might as well just disappear up the tunnel he's done his job. Good lord.
We want to win all games, but we will
You need to segregate the performance from the result. It's not suddenly a bad performance because we lost. It felt like we created more today than in the first leg, Bruno's layoff to Martial which was parried out, Cavani hitting the bar, Martial's open goal miss, Bruno scuffing his open layoff to Cavani etc. I think we took the team to PSG better this fixture than we did in Paris, or at least, it was marginal between the two performances. I'm not suggesting we are Sheffield United but I'm just evaluating the performances of the team.
Not at all. I've been a huge critic on Ole when we dropped points in games where the performance was also shit. Be it Everton/Palace/Villa/West Ham last season or Arsenal/Palace this season.
Thanks
I understand the concern with replacing Fred with Pogba, but VDB is not exactly a lazy luxury player isn't?
Certainly not in a game where you only need a point. The way we were playing, I’d have fancied us to get an equaliser with 11 men.
Yeah was stunned to see Fred come out for the second half
It could have been a great gamble, but for me it was a horrible decision. Better to be safe there imo.
Shouldn’t we be expecting them to know this already? Or are we asking for too much?
I‘m surprised if that’s right
It doesn't matter if his second yellow was incorrect, because his first yellow should've been a red.
Yes but lets say he comes off for VDB, we then loose his defensive qualities and get our arses handed to us... it's possible.
There're also some who come after every win mocking everyone with different opinion and saying some cringey stuff like "OleOuters".
If you don't understand that a complete loss of shape after Cavani hit the bar led to the second goal, and if you don't understand how that ties into piss poor leadership, you can go learn some football while we feck right off. Missed chances are not an excuse to go off a cliff a little past the hour mark.
It's not like Greenwood is in form so there's nothing wrong with Martial continuing to get chances. Unless you want to see Dan James or Ighalo get a run of games.
Exactly. We aren't only blaming Ole. Martial fecked us too. But Martial didn't make a conscious decision to miss.
We'd never lost at home in Europe by a margin of more than 1 goal before 2019.
But that doesn't remove any blame from Ole.
This was always my fear and why I never wanted Ole or any other player to manage us. Our board will let this ride out, while fans let results and standards fall
It works both ways. There was a post after the West Brom win saying the ‘The fraud wins again’. We have a performance thread, no idea why we need to go round in circuses about sacking every game.
At 55 mins we should have been through to last 16. We were playing brilliant football and Martial missed 2 sitters and Cavani hits bar.
That is not how it works, though. If it's bordering to a yellow card then you can "compensate", but the tackle was clean. What's next? Giving someone a second yellow for breathing?
Nah he should gamble again. Sure according to this win here it wasn't his fault
But, as someone said in the Match thread, the ref will have seen at half-time that he should have got the second yellow already so he would have been looking for the opportunity to rectify that second half.
I'm not really sure that you read all the posts. Maybe 5% of OleOut is having valid arguments. The other 95% are kids watching game on flashscore and yelling out, out, out because the game doesn't reflect their reallity from playing Football Manager.
Good post. Completely agree. We score one of our chances and we're all sat here talking about how we dominated last years finalists. PSG were done at that point. We'd outworking and outplayed them
We more than likely would have still lost anyway if he stayed on the pitch. But that's it now for the Ole outers, Fred being (wrongly on two counts) still on the pitch was the one and only reason we lost.
I don't think this is going to go anywhere if you're equating anything that happened in that game to what Martial did, and has done all season. He is tumescent.
