Andersonson
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Top top quality. Would buy for 150+ Martial
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He wasn’tAccording to some in here he wasn’t as good as Lukaku, isn’t as good as Martial (who is also a better passer) and is one of the most disgustingly violent players ever to play the game.
It's the endowment effect at play. People tend to overvalue things they own (E.g., Martial) and undervalue things they do not own (E.g., Kane). In some cases, it is reverse psychology to help them deal with the negative feeling of watching your rival enjoy a player we do not have.Some of the posts I am generally unsure if they are wind up troll posts to fire up the Spurs fans on here, which is a worthy pursuit make no bones about it
Or they are legitimately 100% serious in their assessment of Kane.
Yeah I don't get this either. Why are people even connecting a player's ambition with staying at a club he likes ? Totti stayed at Roma even though he knew he wouldn't win much at all with them. Both aren't connected, it's a bizarre thing to think really.It's the endowment effect at play. People tend to overvalue things they own (E.g., Martial) and undervalue things they do not own (E.g., Kane). In some cases, it is reverse psychology to help them deal with the negative feeling of watching your rival enjoy a player we do not have.
I think Kane has proven his pedigree without any doubt. Also, people calling him unambitious for not jumping ship is pure nonsense. He is trying to win with his club, there is nothing wrong in that. Why displace yourself from a settled life when you are able to fulfill your personal goals and objectives?
The best of a sorry generation of English players. Very good, but not amazing. Could have made a marginally better name for himself if he hadn't stayed at Tottenham and won nothing, but would he even have been able to compete at the absolute top? The fact that noone has truly gone out of their way to sign him is what's really telling. He's an 8.5/10 striker, and he's the kind of striker who thrives at a club that's willing to build their squad around an 8.5/10 striker. Any club that strives for something higher would not see him as a desirable transfer, because it's clear by now that he's the kind of player whose lot in life is to be the best player at Tottenham.
He'd fill his boots in that league.Don't think Bayern would lose anything if they swapped Lewa for him, he's been on par with any of the elite strikers this season.
Well it doesn't say how long that purple patch has lasted I guess. Could mean years..What? actually what? Seriously? WTF?
Romelu Lukaku is “better than Harry Kane”, according to Nicola Ventola, while Christian Vieri says Bayern frontman Robert Lewandowski would struggle to match the Belgian’s goalscoring feats at Inter.According to some in here he wasn’t as good as Lukaku, isn’t as good as Martial (who is also a better passer) and is one of the most disgustingly violent players ever to play the game.
His entire career has just been one big purple patch.Well it doesn't say how long that purple patch has lasted I guess. Could mean years..
He would be top class at any club, his record in Europe and internationally prove that.Kane seems to be the sort of player that will only thrive at Spurs and for some inexplicable reason flatter to deceive at any other top club. I could be totally wrong on this.
He is however, from what I've seen, technically astute, has a decent passing range and is a proper goal poacher.
So we are judging players based on the last 3 months? It's funny that despite having an average last 3 months he still has the most goals+assists this calender year.Don't think you've watched much of Messi lately.
Don't see him being in the convo at all nowadays.
Kane is better than Ronaldo at goals per game? Ronaldo has 39 goals in 37 matches this year, Kane has 22 in 30. If you take Ronaldo's career at Juventus he has 0.78 goals/game, Kane's career at Tottenham is 0.66 goals/game.Which, with regards to goal per game, Kane is better than?
Yea, difficult to class Messi into a position given the freedom with which he plays. Ronaldo I think should count because he is firmly playing as a striker these days and not as an inside forward on the wing. He would be second to Lewandowski in that case.I don't think Messi counts as a striker ? I don't even know what's his supposed position at the moment, seems he's just playing everywhere in the front third of the pitch.
Ronaldo yeah might count. If then, then ahead of Kane and Benzema but still behind Lewa at the moment.
The fact you have to bring out the stats of Ronaldo to downplay Kane just shows how amazing Kane is. Nobody in their right mind is comparing him to the likes of Messi or Ronaldo who are two of the greatest players ever to grace the game.So we are judging players based on the last 3 months? It's funny that despite having an average last 3 months he still has the most goals+assists this calender year.
Kane has been great this past 3 months. His goalscoring numbers are per usual and there are players with better numbers this season in that regard, it's his assists which are propelling him to be regarded as better than the rest. This is why I referred to it as a "purple patch", he had 9 assists in his last 3 EPL seasons total, if he can keep this up for the rest of the season he can well be regarded as the best striker in the world.
Kane is better than Ronaldo at goals per game? Ronaldo has 39 goals in 37 matches this year, Kane has 22 in 30. If you take Ronaldo's career at Juventus he has 0.78 goals/game, Kane's career at Tottenham is 0.66 goals/game.
Yea, difficult to class Messi into a position given the freedom with which he plays. Ronaldo I think should count because he is firmly playing as a striker these days and not as an inside forward on the wing. He would be second to Lewandowski in that case.
True, of course, but he could break Spurs / Premier League records all over the place if he does and keeps up his current pace for another 5 to 10 years. Just as well if he joins Madrid he'd struggle or play in the shadow of an even bigger superstar, yeah you win some trophies then but you fizzle out a bit in the eyes of the British maybe.A modern day Alan Shearer. Fine player and outstanding goal scorer. But his reluctance to leave the home comforts of Spurs may end up with a very bare looking trophy cabinet by the end of his career.
He bagged 29 goals in 30 games for Spurs in 16-17 with the highest goals per 90 of any golden boot winner. The next season he bagged 30 in 37. I'm convinced if he played for Bayern he'd do at least what Lewandowski has been doing recently.Think as a pure #9 he's up there with Lewandowski and Benzema as the best in the world right now (could be I'm forgetting someone but that's the tier he's in for me).
What impresses me most is his ability to drop a little deeper, his hold-up play, quick thinking and vision actually. That's the best in the world for a pure striker and reminds me a lot of Benzema. Having a rapid player like Son around him benefits him too. He's also just a very lethal finisher in and around the box, hits the target more often than not and can create some space for himself on his own.
I think he'd bag 30 goals if he played at Liverpool, we usually rave about the uniqueness of Firmino but I'm convinced Kane could do most of those things as well and he's a much, much better finisher to boot.
Not sure where he could go from here if he wants to leave Tottenham, maybe replacing Benzema at Real would be an option? I have a soft spot for one-club players but it's likely he never wins anything big at Tottenham.
Damn, didn't even know his stats were that impressive. Yeah, could easily see it too regarding Bayern/Lewandowski indeed. He's usually just very clinical and efficient with his chances or in close-to-goal situations though whenever I watch Bayern, so it's not like they're putting every goal for him on a plate. Think Kane could do that too though.He bagged 29 goals in 30 games for Spurs in 16-17 with the highest goals per 90 of any golden boot winner. The next season he bagged 30 in 37. I'm convinced if he played for Bayern he'd do at least what Lewandowski has been doing recently.
He isnt on Ronaldos, level, I was talking about Benzema.So we are judging players based on the last 3 months? It's funny that despite having an average last 3 months he still has the most goals+assists this calender year.
Kane has been great this past 3 months. His goalscoring numbers are per usual and there are players with better numbers this season in that regard, it's his assists which are propelling him to be regarded as better than the rest. This is why I referred to it as a "purple patch", he had 9 assists in his last 3 EPL seasons and already has 10 this season, if he can keep this up for the rest of the campaign he can well be regarded as the best striker in the world.
Kane is better than Ronaldo at goals per game? Ronaldo has 39 goals in 37 matches this year, Kane has 22 in 30. If you take Ronaldo's career at Juventus he has 0.78 goals/game, Kane's career at Tottenham is 0.66 goals/game.
Yea, difficult to class Messi into a position given the freedom with which he plays. Ronaldo I think should count because he is firmly playing as a striker these days and not as an inside forward on the wing. He would be second to Lewandowski in that case.
Since Messi and Ronaldo started putting up crazy numbers people started talking about the top scorer in a calendar year. The only players aside from Messi and Ronaldo to be the top scorer in a calendar year in the past 10 years are Kane and Lewandowski. In 2017 Kane scored 49 in 46 games and last season Lewa scored 48 in 47 games.Damn, didn't even know his stats were that impressive. Yeah, could easily see it too regarding Bayern/Lewandowski indeed. He's usually just very clinical and efficient with his chances or in close-to-goal situations though whenever I watch Bayern, so it's not like they're putting every goal for him on a plate. Think Kane could do that too though.
Just checked and he has a contract until 2024. Don't think he'll move soon unless he forces his way out which I can't really see him do. Maybe they'd agree to sell if they still haven't won anything in 2022 or 2023 and he wants a new challenge, but he'll be 30 by then.
Those really are incredible stats.Since Messi and Ronaldo started putting up crazy numbers people started talking about the top scorer in a calendar year. The only players aside from Messi and Ronaldo to be the top scorer in a calendar year in the past 10 years are Kane and Lewandowski. In 2017 Kane scored 49 in 46 games and last season Lewa scored 48 in 47 games.
Shearer was magnificent but his all round game was not as good as Kane's in my opinion. Kane can do more than just score goals.Shearer was a much better player.
I agree that he is on par with Shearer who I rate as the best English striker of the modern era. Whether Kane can match or better Shearer's goal scoring record - I think he can but he will need to stay fit and that is not guaranteed. Shearer was an absolute beast.The Shearer comparisons are very valid @DixieDean @balaks @VivaRonaldo85
Both in style - thundering right pegs from range, accurate finishers, physical line-leaders, good in the air, not the quickest - and in career trajectory - playing just below the typical title contenders for the bulk of their time at the top.
They were slightly different too. Kane superior in dropping off the defensive line to spot and execute through balls. Shearer better in the air and, before his injury, slightly quicker off the mark. And to be fair to Shearer, his hold-up play was pretty good - few had the strength to hold off and roll Desailly like here for example:
Interesting to see where Kane stands in the pantheon of the greatest English strikers of all time. A few have made the point that he should be at a bigger club winning titles, but that hasn't stopped Greaves (no English league titles) being regarded as the number one striker of the post-war era. Nor has it stopped Lineker (0 league titles) or Shearer (1 league title) from being regarded as right at the top either. In the same way it hasn't diluted the appreciation of Batistuta or Seeler for example.