Am I right in very quick computing that he makes roughly 4.4 euros a second if every hour of the day counts? So for a ten minute shit he makes roughly 2640 euros? I assume that’s what a lot of people here are left with or more after taxes over a month. For one Messi dump.
Lionel Messi’s Obscene Contract
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What does Bill Gates make while whilst having a wank?
TBH, he is worth it
Wow... that contract killed Barcelona.
Along with their stupid buys of Coutinho and Dembele.
Along with their stupid buys of Coutinho and Dembele.
It's only a stupid buys in retrospect, though I think even back then they had overpaid for Coutinho. Dembele was worth the shot.
From a footballing perspective, was he? Since he signed that contract Barcelona have won La Liga twice (probably won't win it this year), and have crapped out in the Champions League in some of the most humiliating and ridiculous ways possible. The club is completely lop-sided due to them allocating so much of their resources on Messi.
Yeah, if money was an infinite glitch like Gamestop stock, he may be worth it, but in reality they went seriously overboard. Even if we take into context the marketing he generates (which I don't know if Barcelona have even 50% of his image rights), or the draw he is for potential recruits, it's still very hard for me to consider this a worthy investment, even if COVID never happened.. If it was either that or lose him, I think I'd lose him and rebuild.
true but they have limited revenue. Can one person justify 25% of an entire team/franchise's revenue?
The worst decision in football history imo.
To be fair I read that he wants them to focus on La Masia and not waste money on the Coutinho's and Griezmanns. maybe so they can pay more to him!!!
nah but in fairness they have still been spending, breaking transfer records but he should know they are crippled with dept and his outgoings are not helping. Even Steph Curry only get 46million dollars in a year. There is no justification for paying one player what Messi allegedly pockets. Its a team game. its not Messi FC. maybe it is....................
In my personal opinion, that is way too much money for any athlete to make in just a span of 4 years. I mean Mahomes just signed a contract for almost half a billion but he’s supposed to make that sum over the course of 10 years, not 4. Huge difference!
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Messi fight with the club and demanded a contract of this much value? Apparently he refused previous offers for this last contract and demanded more?
Why does anyone need so much money to begin with? I hold him partially responsible for Barca’s troubles. For all his one club ambitions, it came at a huge price. Almost considered blackmail.
And I don’t believe he was worth this contract either. He’s not superhuman enough to have won them CLs during this contract and only managed 2 league titles. The club would’ve had a better chance of winning, a much much better chance, had they let him go and used the funds to build a new team for the next decade. Instead of being in shambles as they are now.
They make clubs like Arsenal look like a better type of downfall to suffer as a fan. At least the club isn’t almost bankrupt and not even able to pay players wages ffs.
I’d have imagined Barca might be bought out and have new owners but who in their right mind would even want to buy the club now? Also correct me if I’m wrong again but they’re half owned by their supporters which also makes that almost impossible too.
Edit: Going forward I’ll have a tough time looking at Messi and respect him. Behind that baby face, I see a cold money-driven athlete with little regard to this ‘one club’ ideology. All I see is just a pretentious human being with an innocent poker face.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Messi fight with the club and demanded a contract of this much value? Apparently he refused previous offers for this last contract and demanded more?
Why does anyone need so much money to begin with? I hold him partially responsible for Barca’s troubles. For all his one club ambitions, it came at a huge price. Almost considered blackmail.
And I don’t believe he was worth this contract either. He’s not superhuman enough to have won them CLs during this contract and only managed 2 league titles. The club would’ve had a better chance of winning, a much much better chance, had they let him go and used the funds to build a new team for the next decade. Instead of being in shambles as they are now.
They make clubs like Arsenal look like a better type of downfall to suffer as a fan. At least the club isn’t almost bankrupt and not even able to pay players wages ffs.
I’d have imagined Barca might be bought out and have new owners but who in their right mind would even want to buy the club now? Also correct me if I’m wrong again but they’re half owned by their supporters which also makes that almost impossible too.
Edit: Going forward I’ll have a tough time looking at Messi and respect him. Behind that baby face, I see a cold money-driven athlete with little regard to this ‘one club’ ideology. All I see is just a pretentious human being with an innocent poker face.
I don't think it's completely unwarranted when you consider Barca has annual revenues above 1 bn and Messi is far and away the most important asset to their brand. If you don't want players to earn that much, don't consume so much football. You're contributing to it at the very moment.
£300k a year 2 year contract, happy days. Accepting a lower contract would be good PR.
Have they won much the last 4 years?
He’s worth what Barca decide to pay him.He really isnt worth half a billion quid in 4 years.
feck me.
This planet!!
Hes worth what someone else is prepared to pay him. They shouldn't have needed to go above that amount.
That's not the meaning of the word. If you sell a banana to a mental patient for 200 quid , do you think it means that bananas are worth 200 each ?
If you paid 50 grand for a ford fiesta would it be worth it because thats what you paid? To you yeah but to everyone else it would appear to be ludicrous.
And they haven't.... it's debatable whether he's 'worth' more than Ronaldo or not, but their total packages are very in line with each other. They've paid what the market rate is for his brand and ability. If there was no cap - LeBron wouldn't be behind them by $20-30m per annum.
Ronaldo isn't paid anywhere near that from anything I've seen, link?
Once again, they were more or less fine before COVID hit. They are in so much trouble now because of a literal unpredictable world catastrophe
They won two titles and made a CL semifinal because of him. Almost entirely because of him
Their wage bill for the football section was €443M last season, and that including significant COVID-induced paycuts. In 18/19 was €501M. For a comparison, Real Madrid's was €362M in 18/19 and €378M in 19/20(again with a significant cut). In 18/19 barcelona would have had the highest wage bill in the world by a good €50/60M even if you excluded Messi's salary from the equation
The problem isn't how much they pay to the one player who actually earns it. It's how much they pay to everyone else...
The World's Highest-Paid Athletes 2020 (forbes.com) -
This would be give or take correct, given 100m of Messi's was a sign on clause. So that leaves you circa 100m per year, though they may be a little off due to intangibles.
It was also reported wildly that Ronaldo, not Messi, was the first billionaire from football, soon followed by Messi.
United paid 84 mil for Lukaku, because that's how valuable he was to them back then, no matter how ludicrous it was. Inter bought a shittier version of Lukaku two years later for 74 mil for the same reason.
Lukaku doesn't have a value because he has a specific skillset, he has a value based on the need for that specific skillset for the buying club.
I’m pretty sure PSG or City were prepared to put up that amount for the same Fiesta.
Football is a commercial game nowadays, he was the best player in the world when he signed that contract and if the club was prepared to give him those terms I don’t think anyone should be pointing fingers at Messi.
Whoever offers Ronaldo his next contract is screwed, now that Ronnie knows how much Messi makes.
I'm not. Fair play to him if thats what he got.
I just think its mental and that its not worth it.
They already know, just like Messi's team will have inside knowledge on any Ronaldo contracts changes to keep both parties in line. Surely people can't be this naïve to think they are not on similar money.....?
You are repeating what I said practically. A buyer decides worth where others will balk and say WTF.
By all reports his deal with juventus is worth less than half of Messi's
I knew it was the fans, even when it was the money grabbing footballers and agents I knew it was the fans.
Wonder if he paid taxes correctly over that period of contract.
Yeah isn’t Griezmann on €880k per week or something? Eye watering money indeed. Not sure how their Board hasn’t been brought up on charges of gross negligence. But like you said, maybe they were ok before Covid.
While I was making that comment in jest, I have to say that Ronaldo not running out his contract (and so foregoing a hefty signon bonus) and not earning even half of Messi's base raises some questions on Mendes' competence.
Problem is expecting and planning like the world only goes up and nothing bad will ever happen. There were 3 nasty pandemics in 20th century along with wars, revolutions, oil crises and more. It's reasonable to expect such events every 10 or 20 years maximum. How much did Barcelona put away or plan for such events?
Other problem is Barcelona abandoning their principles, going full neo Galactico and looking to Messi instead of trying find new Messi from La Masia.
Bartomeu, prior board and 21st century mentality are to blame
I just don’t understand it though.
1- I thought he loved Barca so why would he leave and/or strong arm them.
2- who would have possibly signed him and been able to give him such massive contracts aside from perhaps PSG of City (through back door payments).
The only reasoning I can come up with is that the Barca president was so desperate not to lose him that he offered the world.
1- I thought he loved Barca so why would he leave and/or strong arm them.
2- who would have possibly signed him and been able to give him such massive contracts aside from perhaps PSG of City (through back door payments).
The only reasoning I can come up with is that the Barca president was so desperate not to lose him that he offered the world.
In football economics, he is the still the point where demand is the highest and supply is the lowest.
His wages don't make sense, but they're exactly as irrational as you expect that point to be in the financial circus that is modern football.
His wages don't make sense, but they're exactly as irrational as you expect that point to be in the financial circus that is modern football.
Aah that makes sense. Just see a lot of 'he is not worth it' posts every transfer/contract renewal season and thought this was more of the same.
Well hindsight and all that mate. Messi was popping up with more than 50 goals per season at the time still.
Barca have had multiple shit transfers in the last 5 years for circa 100m like Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, where they would never return anywhere close to that investment.
Also at the time (2016) Messi's transfer value would've been humongous if he was on the market, considering for what Neymar was sold and I'd imagine there would've been takers.
When you own a Bugatti Veyron, you can't expect to service it at the local shop for 100 quid can you?
I can understand where people are going with this but considering how Barca spend Neymar's money, I'm not sure if they would've been better without Messi in the last 4 years..
I'm not saying they were ok before COVID, their accounts said so. EBITDA was good even excluding player trading and they were turning profits(albeit very small in 18/19). They were basically at their limit, but being at your limit doesn't mean you're in deep trouble. Just that if something happens that greatly changes things(like, say, a pandemic) then they'd be in serious hot waters. It was mismanagement on their part, but not that gross
And again, it's not that they overpaid Messi, it's that they brutally overpaid everyone else