No! Shows me this is the only place he can run wild where he’s a working cog in other successful teams.
Maybe we are trying to replicate Sporting Lisbon. Benfica and Porto’s bit&£h.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Maybe we are trying to replicate Sporting Lisbon. Benfica and Porto’s bit&£h.
So you are saying bruno is an average player and he is producing crazy numbers because Ole is a crap manager and we have no system.
And you expect you to be taken seriously.
Perfectly put. If there were another Rodri — the man is quickly becoming a colossus — out there I’d be tempted to go DM first and muddle along with Lindelof, Bailly and Tuanzebe and see if one of them can take the next step.
If the football gods allowed us to bring in both Grealish and Sancho, and keep Pogba, I’d put money I wouldn’t enjoy losing on us to lift the PL next season.
Its weird because we are 2nd or whatever but I still think his signings have been meh. Bruno is the main reason we are relevant and he may have been sacked had the board not pulled the trigger in Jan of 2020. Our defence is currently one of the worst in the top 11 despite massive investment. Dan James is meh, Donny has made little impact so far, we have some untried youngsters and Cavani (good solid free signing), Telles has made Luke Shaw buck his ideas up so in a way he may prove a decent signing for making one of our other players play better but as an individual I haven't rated Telles so far. Shaw, Bruno, Pogba, Martial (last year), Rashford (in patches) are currently the only players who I feel have played the most at the required level in the past 12 months although many of them are also inconsistent. Most of these were existing players. I know that all managers make transfer gafs but Bruno is the only signing that is looking like one of our better players.
I don’t take anyone that thinks Ole is a good manager and is spearheading us towards a title serious.
Also without putting words in my mouth. I don’t see Bruno as the second most important player to Portugal after Ronaldo so I don’t see how someone who isn’t considered highly important to their national team is level above everyone else at this club side which happens to be Manchester bloody United.
But if people defending Ole want to use Bruno continuously as his claim to managerial Don status. That’s fine.
He’s not ‘average’ to clear up your made up thoughts. But he is by no means anywhere near the talent level of a Joao Felix.
Have the feeling these Ole fanboys don‘t watch any football apart from the dross they get served every week
Have a feeling the Ole fanboys are seeing waaaaay ahead of the dross they've been served up over the past weeks...
Yeah exactly that too .. deluded
Agreed. We're not that far off but it's getting these players that will allow us to win major trophies. At the moment we're a top 4 side and nearly team, regardless of who the manager is.
I'm calling it now...
Liverpool will win the league with Steven Gerrard as their manager, before United do with Solskjaer as the manager.
Liverpool will win the league with Steven Gerrard as their manager, before United do with Solskjaer as the manager.
Cantona was never important to the French national team. Scholes was never the most important player in the English national team. Andy cole was never an integral part of English national team. But yet all the three were very important to Manchester United success under sir alex.
Again proving your whole agenda against Bruno to be a farce. So what if Bruno is not important for Portugal or isn't performing to the level of his club football, doesn't mean he is any less talented. The guy is producing insane numbers. So how anyone with a straight face say the stuff you even try to say.
I'm Ole out, and I never believed he'll win us anything. But saying Bruno is not a very good footballer is dishonest.
Cantona was a great player and a catalyst. I don’t think anyone is going to argue he was one of the best players in world football. He wouldn’t make most EPL greatest 11 or United Premier League greatest 11’s on ability and I’m saying that respectfully!!
Paul Scholes was a very important player for England until around 2003 and as much as we hate him no one is going to argue Steven Gerrard was an amazing player. Andy Cole shall we really list a bunch of strikers better than him? The original point was Bruno is levels ahead of anyone else in this team. Pep has 3/4 Bruno’s we have 1. Something like that. It’s just not true.
But putting words into your mouth now. Your basically saying Bruno is the only quality player we have?
That’s mad.
Who said that?
So I am a bit confused, so are you saying we have many players like Bruno and should perform better than being 2nd. Ok I get that but then why are you downplaying Bruno. You are just contradicting your own arguments. If you are saying Bruno wouldn't be that important in this city side then you are just admitting that even Pep would need better players than what we have. You can't have both of the worlds, on one hand you want to bash Ole for everything but then you just downplay our best performer by saying he is not as important for Portugal like ronaldo or bernardo or Felix so that would just mean Ole is maximizing Bruno's output which Portuguese coach is failing to do.
The claim was something like Pep has 4/5 great players. We have Bruno. Rightly our wrongly I listed Rashford; Pogba; Shaw; Martial and VDB. To me that’s 6 players that are no less that Bruno’s level. Who’s better can be subjective. But to say only Bruno is a top level footballer is mad to me.
I forgot I said Cavani too.
The Portugal point was basically trying to figure out what level they felt Bruno was at. As far as I’m concerned if he’s ahead of everyone else we have he must be CR7 level as that I couldn’t personally argue with. But he’s not.
Just to clarify. Is it your honest and true opinion that Donny and Tony are as good as Bruno?
Yep that's probably due to a hysterical and entitled group of fans.
So the new manager that replaces Ole must win the league with these players as according to you we have a squad capable of winning the league but just need a manager who is not Ole. Is that correct?
Well scroll up you’ll see my opinion. It doesn’t go further than two pages.
Am I wrong or didn't we try some of the most successful managers already? Ole has done better than either of them.
We're better than we were last year. We were better then than the year before. He's proving that he's capable of improving us. So let's see not lose the head on every bad result.
We were in an absolute mess when he took over and he's dragged us this far.
Ability wise they are better than Bruno. Performance wise Marital is not this season. VDB just isn’t but he’s younger and can get there. No one in this team has the performance level of Paul Pogba however but at the sametime I’d never say he’s the only good player we have.
You do know right you can Quote your own messages rather than asking people to scroll back and read your comments.
I find it odd that him having us 2nd hasn't surprised you considering how lowly you rate him.
Why would what people write on Redcafe affect him?
Wow.
Well, as always, you’re entitled to your opinion. I can’t even say it’s wrong, as it’s your opinion to own.
But if this is your actual, honest opinion (I still think you’re a troll and a WUM, tbh), kudos for actually admitting it, and disqualifying yourself from every relevant discussion about football forever in the process.
My opinion. You don’t have to believe what I do.. I just don’t think a lot of people are real with themselves. Most of us only watch United but even in doing so we’ve had some amazing players. If Bruno ticks that box for you kudos. I won’t judge you.
We need a couple signings but most definitely we’d be better with a better manager. But that’s simple.
Jose, Ole and Allegri. Three cautious managers in a row. No thanks.
Moyes was worse for us than Ole. This version of Ole would have gotten top 4 with that title winning team.
It wouldn't. Who said it would?
Wtf is going on in here
Honestly, just wait until the run of Chelsea, City, WHUM, Leicester, Brighton, Spurs. Carnage will ensue because there's no way we're not dropping points in there.Wtf is going on in here
Forget about city/chelsea. I am more worried about our game against Newcastle.
Needs to diversify his tactics. We’re so flat & predictable. If I wasn’t a fan I wouldn’t watch us play for entertainment. I get bored most of our games.
Is it harsh to surmise that if you remove Bruno from our current team, we are not really any better than we were say 12 months ago? What I don’t see is anything new or exciting coaching or style wise from the team. What Ole has done well is his evolution of the squad by removing deadwood and bringing players in, ie., the job of a Director of Football. The proof of the pudding for Ole will be the next 14 league games and a much needed trophy in the cabinet.
They are nowhere near Bruno's level. Bruno has proven over the last 12 months or so that he's the best player at United and one of the very best in the PL. His numbers back it up.
And who gives a feck about Portugal. It's what he does for United that matters.
Opened this last page and wow, all over the place.
Like some people have been spiked with psychedelics and given forum passwords
Like some people have been spiked with psychedelics and given forum passwords
This is my issue with Solskjaer. If you notice he avoids much criticism because some feel unable to judge without us spending a further 250 million. My issue is every player we sign from this point forward will have to bring something individually to a position. Notice most managers sign players by what they bring to the team.
We by no accounts can identify ourselves as a cohesive team because the first 11 has absolutely identity. No defined system, no ethos, no philosophy. We are playing on a game by game basis relying on individual brilliance.
Can’t take anyone serious that thinks Bruno is a level above Paul Pogba
This fanbase.
Well I would take Vestergaard as a CB partner for Maguire along with Romeu to replace Matic & Ward-Prowse to offer us something different creatively in the middle to Bruno. Potentially you could also throw Ings in there too if we didn't already have Eddy of course.
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