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Good deal for Prescott, also short enough to give him a shot at another big deal once that one expires (think he'll be just over 30 by then).

Next up: Josh Allen. And will be interesting to see whether the Ravens are fully committed to Lamar as well.
 

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Risky, but probably makes more sense than trading for Wilson (assuming Prescott fully recovers and is ready for next season). He's basically Wilson with more picks.
Dak is good but he isn't Wilson
 

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Great deal for Dak, particularly after the injury. I’m surprised Jerry paid him so much now after not doing so last year.
 

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Great deal for Dak & deserved but a horrible deal for the Cowboys & their fans.

Shame that.
Yes the current deal is not good. But considering he was playing on the cheap for such a long time for them - I would not call it horrible.
 

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Yes the current deal is not good. But considering he was playing on the cheap for such a long time for them - I would not call it horrible.
For their future it's not ideal. There time to win with Dak was under the rookie deal years. The tag on him & terrible injury just made his case for payment all the stronger.
 

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Don't see how it's a terrible deal. How he played in 2020 was like an elite QB and he deserved to be paid like that - the fact that they don't have him under his rookie contract anymore doesn't immediately make it a terrible deal for the Cowboys.
 

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Don't see how it's a terrible deal. How he played in 2020 was like an elite QB and he deserved to be paid like that - the fact that they don't have him under his rookie contract anymore doesn't immediately make it a terrible deal for the Cowboys.
Depends how highly you rate Dak I guess. He's not top 5 worthy imo but I get it's an ever developing pay structure. Based on this deal Allen will be matching/usurping Mahomes.
 

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Depends how highly you rate Dak I guess. He's not top 5 worthy imo but I get it's an ever developing pay structure. Based on this deal Allen will be matching/usurping Mahomes.
He's become pretty good over the past couple of years (compared to his first 3 years in the league), has a 97 career passer rating which is in the top 10 all time. I believe he was on a torrid pace to throw for nearly 6k yards before the injury last year. Given that he's still only 27 and could deliver another 10 years of service, it would seem like a decent deal for both parties.
 

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Trent Brown returning to the Pats in a trade with Vegas. If he’s healthy, he’s a very good addition to the OL. Just need a QB & some receivers now...
 

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He's become pretty good over the past couple of years (compared to his first 3 years in the league), has a 97 career passer rating which is in the top 10 all time. I believe he was on a torrid pace to throw for nearly 6k yards before the injury last year. Given that he's still only 27 and could deliver another 10 years of service, it would seem like a decent deal for both parties.
He's top 10, clearly.... But this deal will limit how strong the team can be around him and to compete he needs to be top 5 level minimum on that deal imo. It's a tough situ for Dallas but it's of their own creation.

We're in situ where you either win on the rookie QB deal or you're the goat.
 

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Dak is good but he isn't Wilson
Rookie contract Wilson wasn't the current version Wilson either and Dak has statistically played just as well comparatively to Wilson's first four years (fifth year asterisk due to Dak's injury), so we shall see what Dak does going forward. I don't think Dak's ceiling is as high as Wilson yet many felt Wilson's ceiling was limited, but he later burst through to become an elite player. Dak may very well do the same.

Give any good to great QB that LOB defense, arguably the best ever all factors considered, for four years and you'd probably see SB appearances. Studs like Brady, P Manning, Rodgers may have gone undefeated in Seattle during one of those seasons from 2012 to 2016, and likely with multiple titles.

That Cowboys defense is why Dak likely will never get to the SB. And that OL needs to be addressed or Dak is gonna look like Mahomes running around in the SB.
 

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Great deal for Dak & deserved but a horrible deal for the Cowboys & their fans.

Shame that.
Nah, the horrible deals are Zeke and Jaylon Smith, and arguably Cooper and Lawrence. I'll give the latter duo a pass as Cooper put up the numbers after arriving to Dallas (granted he's a garbage stat guy in retrospect but still a quality WR) and Lawrence went from 4-3 DE to a stupid change in scheme that took him from his best spot.

QBs are taking what the market offers and most clubs are stuck in no man's land.
 

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He's top 10, clearly.... But this deal will limit how strong the team can be around him and to compete he needs to be top 5 level minimum on that deal imo. It's a tough situ for Dallas but it's of their own creation.

We're in situ where you either win on the rookie QB deal or you're the goat.
All top tier QB contracts do this.
 

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Nah, the horrible deals are Zeke and Jaylon Smith, and arguably Cooper and Lawrence. I'll give the latter duo a pass as Cooper put up the numbers after arriving to Dallas (granted he's a garbage stat guy in retrospect but still a quality WR) and Lawrence went from 4-3 DE to a stupid change in scheme that took him from his best spot.

QBs are taking what the market offers and most clubs are stuck in no man's land.
Zeke's deal is a killer, yes. You should never pay the big contract to RB's & I'm all against ever drafting elite college RB's full stop.
 

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Deserves it for basically carrying the team on his back the past four years all with the owner hating on him
Exactly. Knowing how much of a pos JJ is, he must’ve looked at every opportunity to get rid of him post his injury before offering this contract.
 

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Rookie contract Wilson wasn't the current version Wilson either and Dak has statistically played just as well comparatively to Wilson's first four years (fifth year asterisk due to Dak's injury), so we shall see what Dak does going forward. I don't think Dak's ceiling is as high as Wilson yet many felt Wilson's ceiling was limited, but he later burst through to become an elite player. Dak may very well do the same.

Give any good to great QB that LOB defense, arguably the best ever all factors considered, for four years and you'd probably see SB appearances. Studs like Brady, P Manning, Rodgers may have gone undefeated in Seattle during one of those seasons from 2012 to 2016, and likely with multiple titles.

That Cowboys defense is why Dak likely will never get to the SB. And that OL needs to be addressed or Dak is gonna look like Mahomes running around in the SB.

That's all fine but he is getting paid money with the hope that he would take the next step in his career. He also is coming back from a bad injury due to which he missed half the season. He might become as good as Russ but he is already being paid as much as any other QB in the league . Having seen the Wentz & Goff contracts recently you can see how quickly things can go bad
 

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The top of the draft is so offense heavy, the Boys might get their pick of defenders - pending Denver making a huge trade for a QB. A day one starter at CB at the least.

There‘s a lot more holes on that roster though...
 

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Zeke has seriously regressed since signing his big contract. Tbf, his o-line wasn't what it once was and he started off well last season while Dak was healthy.

We are a good draft away from challenging but that has been the case for a few years and not worked out.

Zeke , D Law and Jaylon were badly overpaid but i still believe they have the talent to show a lot more in this team.

We need to draft the right defence and offensive linesmen we possibly can. We don't need anything else in the draft and the one thing Jerry is good at is working the cap space he has
 

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Kenny Golladay and Hunter Henry both headed to free agency as well.
 

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Had figured Tampa would tag Shaq over Godwin, especially with all the offensive weapons they have and that someone like Edelman would sign to replace Godwin (at a much cheaper salary). Wonder how much Tom had input on this decision.
 

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We are a good draft away from challenging but that has been the case for a few years and not worked out.

Zeke , D Law and Jaylon were badly overpaid but i still believe they have the talent to show a lot more in this team.

We need to draft the right defence and offensive linesmen we possibly can. We don't need anything else in the draft and the one thing Jerry is good at is working the cap space he has
Not sure what makes you say that you are a good draft away from challenging . You were absolutely horrendous even with Dak fit last season
 

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Bucs have kept a hold of Godwin and David so far. If they somehow keep Shaq as well that would be really annoying. I was certain they’d lose one of those three.

 

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A $16m drop, almost back to 2018 level.
 

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Excluding 2010 the packers have scored 580 in 20 playoff games. Prorate that to 16 and it is 464 points. Which would rank 8th in 2020. I wonder why scoring the 8th most points isn't good enough to be the best team
11 of the last 18 Superbowl winners ranked 9th or worse in points per game.
 

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John Brown released by the Browns, Riley Reiff by the Vikings.
 
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