Prophet Muhammad cartoon sparks Batley Grammar School protest

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-school-protest-cartoon-teacher-b1823129.html
He can’t even try to hide his homophobia or anti semitism, religion of peace and tolerance indeed.
Bit of a leap that.

I don't think he is showing homophobia or anti semetism from that statement

It's interesting that when I was having a discussion with someone earlier I was pulled up for a sentence I misworded (some understood it correctly and said so) but it did lead one person to inform a mod. Tbf it was misworded and incorrected and apologised for the misunderstanding (and apology was accepted). Yet I have seen some things on here that a re blatantly offensive and could be deemed islamophobic, that have gone uncontested. Allmin the name of freedom to offend etc


Has my raising that now made me anti semetic?
 

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Was just confirming that the other guy was saying a random age group, brosef.

As to the rest of your post, has there been any actual statement that any of that happened? Or is that the same conjecture that’s been happening the last 2 days?
As far as I have read all we know if that he was giving a lecture on blasphemy in religious studies. I'd read that he had given a warning to the students and parents before hand, but that's not confirmed. If that was the case I'd be surprised that there hadn't been a huge uproar before that.
 

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Was just confirming that the other guy was saying a random age group, brosef.

As to the rest of your post, has there been any actual statement that any of that happened? Or is that the same conjecture that’s been happening the last 2 days?
The only statement has been from the school. Where they have said it was inappropriate material and apologised.

I would guess, as i said earlier, that either the teacher was hung out to dry or in fact there was some in appropriateness in the material.

Guess the investigation should answer that at some point. Or even maybe before hand considering the attention the case is getting
 

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Bit of a leap that.

I don't think he is showing homophobia or anti semetism from that statement

It's interesting that when I was having a discussion with someone earlier I was pulled up for a sentence I misworded (some understood it correctly and said so) but it did lead one person to inform a mod. Tbf it was misworded and incorrected and apologised for the misunderstanding (and apology was accepted). Yet I have seen some things on here that a re blatantly offensive and could be deemed islamophobic, that have gone uncontested. Allmin the name of freedom to offend etc


Has my raising that now made me anti semetic?
Mods here are encouraging posters to report any such posts by hitting ‘report’. If you encounter posts that warrant this action I’d urge you to do so.
 

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As far as I have read all we know if that he was giving a lecture on blasphemy in religious studies. I'd read that he had given a warning to the students and parents before hand, but that's not confirmed. If that was the case I'd be surprised that there hadn't been a huge uproar before that.
I've read stuff like that on social media but not so much the papers etc.

The whole religion and ethics, blasphemy, informed parents and children doesn't seem to come out from the press reports.

It's simply portrayed as showing a cartoon in a RS lesson.

The informing of kids bit has been portrayed as telling the kids that he will be showing offensive material before he showed it.
 

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I've read stuff like that on social media but not so much the papers etc.

The whole religion and ethics, blasphemy, informed parents and children doesn't seem to come out from the press reports.

It's simply portrayed as showing a cartoon in a RS lesson.

The informing of kids bit has been portrayed as telling the kids that he will be showing offensive material before he showed it.
It's mentioned in the Daily telegraph that he was doing it on a lecture on blasphemy. There is a 2nd article from them from yesterday that mentions the same.

Here is the 2nd one if you want to read it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/26/islamist-rhetoric-designed-frighten-know-can-lead/
 

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I'm not sure that I read that the same way you've chosen to however would his argument stand up that lifestyles and jewish people have protections against hate speech but are the showing of cartoons of Muhammed also a type of hate speech?
It depends on the nature of the cartoons and what you say about them, here I'll give you two headlines from Charlie Hebdo one is not an attack on Islam and Muhammed while the other is.



The first one directly attacks Islam stating that "Quran is shit", the second one states that Muhammed is overran by extremists and Muhammed says, "It's hard to be loved by idiots". The messages are completely different, I do believe that the first one is islamophobic and has no place in our societies while the second is a fair and accurate criticisms of a minority of muslims.
 

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The grandly-named Purpose of Life (PoL) is a charity based in Batley, West Yorkshire. Its purposes, as approved by the Charity Commission, are “to help young people of all races and backgrounds while being particularly sensitive to the needs of ethnic minority communities”, especially through education and the relief of poverty. Nothing in its listing on the Charity Commission’s website indicates that it is a Muslim organisation. Indeed, PoL states on its own website: “We are all one family, irrespective of race, religion, colour etc.”

This week, PoL’s founder and CEO, Mohammad Sajad Hussain, published on Twitter the full text of a letter he had just sent in his charity’s name to Gary Kibble, the headmaster of Batley Grammar School. The letter named a religious studies teacher at the school. “We at Purpose of Life”, it said, had been “deeply hurt” by the teacher named because he had been “showing insulting caricatures”, which proved “what hatred people feel for the beautiful religion of Islam”. His behaviour was “clearly sadistic”.

“This to me is terrorism to Islam & Muslims around the world”, Mr Hussain added.

The letter demanded that the named teacher be “permanently removed” from the school. The school’s apology – already issued by Mr Kibble – “does not go far enough”, it said. “This is the stance Purpose of Life takes with any organisation who attacks our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH).” Therefore the school must “recognise its own shortcomings”, it concluded.

Outside Batley Grammar School, there was a protest in the same cause, addressed by Mohammed Amin Pandor, a local mufti. The crowd shouted: “Get the head teacher”. Mr Pandor also runs a charity (this one explicitly Muslim), called the Peace Institute.

He can be found on Twitter addressing a public rally, with the Corbynites Rebecca Long-Bailey and Laura Pidcock, in which he praises Black Lives Matter. In other tweets, the mufti attacks India, France, Israel, Hindus and Buddhists and supports the Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Yesterday he tweeted an Islamic fatwa from the Deobandi movement (of which he is a part) counselling Muslims against accepting Covid-19 vaccines.

It is reported that the religious studies teacher whom PoL’s letter named has now gone into hiding.

Some questions suggest themselves. Why should any charity claim the right to get rid of a teacher? Why would a charity which does not state in its legal governing document that it is Muslim feel it right to attack people for (as it sees it) attacking Islam’s prophet? Why would either of the charities involved here feel entitled to speak for the parents of Batley Grammar School, and why should the school or public authorities recognise such an entitlement? Why would they and other protestors arrange a small mob to stand at the school gates? In a free and plural society, should such organisations be the gatekeepers of what Muslims can be taught?

There are other questions, too. Why did Mr Kibble, the headmaster, feel it necessary to apologise “unequivocally” for the lesson in question and to relay an apology from the member of staff accused? Why did he describe the use of a particular image as “totally inappropriate”? In a robust statement, the Department for Education said that the protests had been “completely unacceptable”. Why did Mr Kibble give in to them?

So far, all we know is that the teacher involved was giving a religious studies class about blasphemy. In it, he showed his middle-school pupils a cartoon of Mohammed with his turban rendered as a bomb, probably the one originally printed in Charlie Hebdo. There is a clear, easily justifiable educational purpose here – although of course it is possible that the teacher mishandled the use of the image. In religious studies, children should be taught about what blasphemy means and how different religions deal with it. One would expect such teaching – like all good teaching – to be accompanied by examples. Some pupils at the school seem to agree. They are bravely getting up a petition to support their beleaguered teacher.

There is also a free speech issue. Mr Hussain of PoL says: “We can’t use the expression, freedom of speech, to offend people.” Where does Mr Hussain get that idea? In Britain, we can, we do, and the law upholds this. If it did not, I could counter by claiming that Mr Hussain’s threatening intervention offends me – which it does – and have him arrested, and soon everyone would be claiming offence about everything and free speech would be destroyed. It was because of this danger that the senior members of Cambridge University recently defied their woke vice-chancellor and voted to insist that freedom of academic speech includes the right not to respect certain beliefs.

At Batley Grammar, an inquiry into the affair follows. We can already guess the likely results. The “offending” teacher will surely not return to teach at the school, even if he is exonerated of all wrongdoing. The authorities will not dare let him. They will tend to see him, rather than his Islamist critics, as responsible for chucking fuel on the flames. Nor, in all likelihood, will he be able to get another job in the state sector, for similar reasons. Purpose of Life has destroyed his purpose of life, in career terms.

It has also left him in fear. The phrases in Mr Hussain’s letter are rhetorically violent: they accuse the teacher of hating Islam, insulting its prophet, committing terrorism against Islam and Muslims. Mr Hussain equates the teacher’s behaviour with the great fire that recently burnt many Muslims in a Rohingya refugee camp. Murder, rape and being burnt alive, he says, “will only increase if we allow this [ie the teacher’s] kind of behaviour”, which he also calls “sadistic”. Not only are these uncharitable, horrible accusations to make against anyone, they also, in many cases, contain trigger words to incite anger. Mr Hussain and PoL presumably chose their words carefully. They are being said in a context in which the teacher’s home address has been put online. Why are all of us in the media referring to him as “the teacher” when normally, in a free country, people in news stories can and should be named? I think PoL knows why.

Where do such things lead? We know the answer. Only six months ago, Samuel Paty, a teacher in a suburb of Paris, was also teaching pupils about the Charlie Hebdo cartoons (in his case, more in reference to free speech than to blasphemy). Even though he allowed Muslim pupils to leave the class or look away while he used the offending pictures, he was shopped by pupils and parents. One parent led an online campaign against him. This in turn inflamed a young Chechen Muslim, who turned up at the school gates. He asked a pupil to identify M Paty, followed him as he left his work and beheaded him. Then he posted a picture of the severed head online.

How easily could this happen here? It would be wrong to say that people like PoL actually want such a thing to happen, but I hereby exercise my increasingly threatened right to free speech and suggest that they want to frighten the teacher. By doing so, by naming him and by insulting him, they create a climate which can make violent attack more likely.
 

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It depends on the nature of the cartoons and what you say about them, here I'll give you two headlines from Charlie Hebdo one is not an attack on Islam and Muhammed while the other is.



The first one directly attacks Islam stating that "Quran is shit", the second one states that Muhammed is overran by extremists and Muhammed says, "It's hard to be loved by idiots". The messages are completely different, I do believe that the first one is islamophobic and has no place in our societies while the second is a fair and accurate criticisms of a minority of muslims.
That's interesting, thanks for that. We don't know which if any of those two were part of the lesson do we?
 

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It depends on the nature of the cartoons and what you say about them, here I'll give you two headlines from Charlie Hebdo one is not an attack on Islam and Muhammed while the other is.



The first one directly attacks Islam stating that "Quran is shit", the second one states that Muhammed is overran by extremists and Muhammed says, "It's hard to be loved by idiots". The messages are completely different, I do believe that the first one is islamophobic and has no place in our societies while the second is a fair and accurate criticisms of a minority of muslims.
Do you also feel that the ones where they mock the church, christians, jesus and god has no place in our society or is it different because Christians aren't a minority in Europe and are not subjected to the same hostile sentiment?
 

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The grandly-named Purpose of Life (PoL) is a charity based in Batley, West Yorkshire. Its purposes, as approved by the Charity Commission, are “to help young people of all races and backgrounds while being particularly sensitive to the needs of ethnic minority communities”, especially through education and the relief of poverty. Nothing in its listing on the Charity Commission’s website indicates that it is a Muslim organisation. Indeed, PoL states on its own website: “We are all one family, irrespective of race, religion, colour etc.”

This week, PoL’s founder and CEO, Mohammad Sajad Hussain, published on Twitter the full text of a letter he had just sent in his charity’s name to Gary Kibble, the headmaster of Batley Grammar School. The letter named a religious studies teacher at the school. “We at Purpose of Life”, it said, had been “deeply hurt” by the teacher named because he had been “showing insulting caricatures”, which proved “what hatred people feel for the beautiful religion of Islam”. His behaviour was “clearly sadistic”.

“This to me is terrorism to Islam & Muslims around the world”, Mr Hussain added.

The letter demanded that the named teacher be “permanently removed” from the school. The school’s apology – already issued by Mr Kibble – “does not go far enough”, it said. “This is the stance Purpose of Life takes with any organisation who attacks our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH).” Therefore the school must “recognise its own shortcomings”, it concluded.

Outside Batley Grammar School, there was a protest in the same cause, addressed by Mohammed Amin Pandor, a local mufti. The crowd shouted: “Get the head teacher”. Mr Pandor also runs a charity (this one explicitly Muslim), called the Peace Institute.

He can be found on Twitter addressing a public rally, with the Corbynites Rebecca Long-Bailey and Laura Pidcock, in which he praises Black Lives Matter. In other tweets, the mufti attacks India, France, Israel, Hindus and Buddhists and supports the Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Yesterday he tweeted an Islamic fatwa from the Deobandi movement (of which he is a part) counselling Muslims against accepting Covid-19 vaccines.

It is reported that the religious studies teacher whom PoL’s letter named has now gone into hiding.

Some questions suggest themselves. Why should any charity claim the right to get rid of a teacher? Why would a charity which does not state in its legal governing document that it is Muslim feel it right to attack people for (as it sees it) attacking Islam’s prophet? Why would either of the charities involved here feel entitled to speak for the parents of Batley Grammar School, and why should the school or public authorities recognise such an entitlement? Why would they and other protestors arrange a small mob to stand at the school gates? In a free and plural society, should such organisations be the gatekeepers of what Muslims can be taught?

There are other questions, too. Why did Mr Kibble, the headmaster, feel it necessary to apologise “unequivocally” for the lesson in question and to relay an apology from the member of staff accused? Why did he describe the use of a particular image as “totally inappropriate”? In a robust statement, the Department for Education said that the protests had been “completely unacceptable”. Why did Mr Kibble give in to them?

So far, all we know is that the teacher involved was giving a religious studies class about blasphemy. In it, he showed his middle-school pupils a cartoon of Mohammed with his turban rendered as a bomb, probably the one originally printed in Charlie Hebdo. There is a clear, easily justifiable educational purpose here – although of course it is possible that the teacher mishandled the use of the image. In religious studies, children should be taught about what blasphemy means and how different religions deal with it. One would expect such teaching – like all good teaching – to be accompanied by examples. Some pupils at the school seem to agree. They are bravely getting up a petition to support their beleaguered teacher.

There is also a free speech issue. Mr Hussain of PoL says: “We can’t use the expression, freedom of speech, to offend people.” Where does Mr Hussain get that idea? In Britain, we can, we do, and the law upholds this. If it did not, I could counter by claiming that Mr Hussain’s threatening intervention offends me – which it does – and have him arrested, and soon everyone would be claiming offence about everything and free speech would be destroyed. It was because of this danger that the senior members of Cambridge University recently defied their woke vice-chancellor and voted to insist that freedom of academic speech includes the right not to respect certain beliefs.

At Batley Grammar, an inquiry into the affair follows. We can already guess the likely results. The “offending” teacher will surely not return to teach at the school, even if he is exonerated of all wrongdoing. The authorities will not dare let him. They will tend to see him, rather than his Islamist critics, as responsible for chucking fuel on the flames. Nor, in all likelihood, will he be able to get another job in the state sector, for similar reasons. Purpose of Life has destroyed his purpose of life, in career terms.

It has also left him in fear. The phrases in Mr Hussain’s letter are rhetorically violent: they accuse the teacher of hating Islam, insulting its prophet, committing terrorism against Islam and Muslims. Mr Hussain equates the teacher’s behaviour with the great fire that recently burnt many Muslims in a Rohingya refugee camp. Murder, rape and being burnt alive, he says, “will only increase if we allow this [ie the teacher’s] kind of behaviour”, which he also calls “sadistic”. Not only are these uncharitable, horrible accusations to make against anyone, they also, in many cases, contain trigger words to incite anger. Mr Hussain and PoL presumably chose their words carefully. They are being said in a context in which the teacher’s home address has been put online. Why are all of us in the media referring to him as “the teacher” when normally, in a free country, people in news stories can and should be named? I think PoL knows why.

Where do such things lead? We know the answer. Only six months ago, Samuel Paty, a teacher in a suburb of Paris, was also teaching pupils about the Charlie Hebdo cartoons (in his case, more in reference to free speech than to blasphemy). Even though he allowed Muslim pupils to leave the class or look away while he used the offending pictures, he was shopped by pupils and parents. One parent led an online campaign against him. This in turn inflamed a young Chechen Muslim, who turned up at the school gates. He asked a pupil to identify M Paty, followed him as he left his work and beheaded him. Then he posted a picture of the severed head online.

How easily could this happen here? It would be wrong to say that people like PoL actually want such a thing to happen, but I hereby exercise my increasingly threatened right to free speech and suggest that they want to frighten the teacher. By doing so, by naming him and by insulting him, they create a climate which can make violent attack more likely.

Thanks for that.

Seems like it maybe a conclusion/narrative (one of many the article had) the paper has reached

Could be true also. So we will see if any more info is forthcoming
 

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That's interesting, thanks for that. We don't know which if any of those two were part of the lesson do we?
Not sure but wasn't it the Muhammad with a bomb as a turban?

Don't think that was CH though
 

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Do you also feel that the ones where they mock the church, christians, jesus and god has no place in our society or is it different because Christians aren't a minority in Europe and are not subjected to the same hostile sentiment?
Yes I do, as do christians and Jews in France. Charlie Hebdo is unpopuiar and has been widely criticized for years, the irony of the attack is that the idiots who did that pushed people to put aside their dislike for Charlie Hebdo.
 

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Yes I do, as do christians and Jews in France. Charlie Hebdo is unpopuiar and has been widely criticized for years, the irony of the attack is that the idiots who did that pushed people to put aside their dislike for Charlie Hebdo.
Well I disagree. I'm fine with a secular left wing satirical magazine punching at religion in their own offensive style in a country with freedom of religion and freedom from religion. It's still just cartoons and no one is forced to buy their magazines or support them.
 

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Well I disagree. I'm fine with a secular left wing satirical magazine punching at religion in their own offensive style in a country with freedom of religion and freedom from religion. It's still just cartoons and no one is forced to buy their magazines or support them.
It's not though and the fact that you made that statement is worrying, those cartoons have moral and political messages attached to them. They are not just cartoons, similarly a pamphlet isn't just words, you need to analyze the message and understand what is being conveyed.
 

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It depends on the nature of the cartoons and what you say about them, here I'll give you two headlines from Charlie Hebdo one is not an attack on Islam and Muhammed while the other is.



The first one directly attacks Islam stating that "Quran is shit", the second one states that Muhammed is overran by extremists and Muhammed says, "It's hard to be loved by idiots". The messages are completely different, I do believe that the first one is islamophobic and has no place in our societies while the second is a fair and accurate criticisms of a minority of muslims.
Is ‘Quran is shit’ really Islamophobic? Saying a book is shit is an opinion one can have and express isn’t it? Although I wouldn’t say it that way I don’t find the Quran a good book either. What’s standing on the mark beside it if I may ask?

I do agree the second one is a ‘better’ cartoon.
 

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It's not though and the fact that you made that statement is worrying, those cartoons have moral and political messages attached to them. They are not just cartoons, similarly a pamphlet isn't just words, you need to analyze the message and understand what is being conveyed.
Most people don't get their moral codex and opinon on religion from a bunch of cartoons. Since jews are regular targets of Islamic terror, don't fair well in the Quran or the Hadiths, I think I get the message if a jew holding a Quran expresses that "the Quran is shit" whilst he's being gunned down.

I think it's perfect fine to say The Old Testament is shit, or the bible for that matter or the Torah. If you don't like The buddhist Canon, you can call that shit as well. It's a right people have in a free society.
 
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It's not though and the fact that you made that statement is worrying, those cartoons have moral and political messages attached to them. They are not just cartoons, similarly a pamphlet isn't just words, you need to analyze the message and understand what is being conveyed.
So should Voltaire have not published Candide?
 

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It depends on the nature of the cartoons and what you say about them, here I'll give you two headlines from Charlie Hebdo one is not an attack on Islam and Muhammed while the other is.



The first one directly attacks Islam stating that "Quran is shit", the second one states that Muhammed is overran by extremists and Muhammed says, "It's hard to be loved by idiots". The messages are completely different, I do believe that the first one is islamophobic and has no place in our societies while the second is a fair and accurate criticisms of a minority of muslims.
Aren't you now essentially displaying the cartoons to fuel a discussion on free speech and criticism of religion? How is it okay for you to show those cartoons in this discussion, but it's not okay for a teacher to do so in class?
 

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Most people don't get their moral codex and opinon on religion from a bunch of cartoons. Since jews are regular targets of Islamic terror, don't fair well in the Quran or the Hadiths, I think I get the message if a jew holding a Quran expresses that "the Quran is shit" whilst he's being gunned down.

I think it's perfect fine to say The Old Testament is shit, or the bible for that matter or the Torah. If you don't like The buddhist Canon, you can call that shit as well. It's a right people have in a free society.
Where in the Quran would you say they don't fair well?
 

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Most people don't get their moral codex and opinon on religion from a bunch of cartoons. Since jews are regular targets of Islamic terror, don't fair well in the Quran or the Hadiths, I think I get the message if a jew holding a Quran expresses that "the Quran is shit" whilst he's being gunned down.

I think it's perfect fine to say The Old Testament is shit, or the bible for that matter or the Torah. If you don't like The buddhist Canon, you can call that shit as well. It's a right people have in a free society.
Jews are not regular targets of Islamic terror. It's usually right wing nutjobs that target Jewish neighbourhoods, synagogues and people.
 

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Aren't you now essentially displaying the cartoons to fuel a discussion on free speech and criticism of religion? How is it okay for you to show those cartoons in this discussion, but it's not okay for a teacher to do so in class?
I didn't suggest that it wasn't okay for a teacher to do so in class, I said that I was against the idea that it was appropriate in all situations. I didn't criticize the teacher or any teacher, I simply said that context matter.
 

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I didn't suggest that it wasn't okay for a teacher to do so in class, I said that I was against the idea that it was appropriate in all situations. I didn't criticize the teacher or any teacher, I simply said that context matter.
Can you explain why you deem ‘Quran is shit’ as Islamophobic?
 

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By making that statement you say that Islam is shit which is a prejudice against Islam, aka Islamophobia.
So if I say the Bible is shit am I an Christianophobe? Can I be a Hinduphobe because I think the caste system is terrible? Personally I think Islamophobia is a crockterm. It's deliberately construed to conflate critism of Islam with irrational bigotry.
 

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By making that statement you say that Islam is shit which is a prejudice against Islam, aka Islamophobia.
Seems strange to me that you can’t express your opinion about a book. The Quran has passages where they essentially say it’s OK to kill me. Surely I should have the right to say that book is shit then? I would never word it that way by the way.

Don’t you find it scary someone is not allowed to express his own opinions on a book without being deemed Islamophobic?
 

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So if I say the Bible is shit am I an Christianophobe? Can I be a Hinduphobe because I think the caste system is terrible? Personally I think Islamophobia is a crockterm. It's deliberately construed to conflate critism of Islam with irrational bigotry.
These "phobia" and "phobe" type of discussions really just take the debates to one or the other extreme. It prevents people from reaching a balanced sense of understanding of a situation or problem and immediately labels you as one or the other.

We have our own specific problem in Bulgaria with "rusophobes" and "rusophiles". It just becomes yet another part of life that separates people on some sort of hardline belief that even makes people from the same nation feel like they are enemies with each other. It's kind of crazy and very worrying for the future, at least in my opinion.
 

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That was part of a string of posts you made that began with saying cartoons that mock religion have no place in society. Candide is famously blasphemous.
That's not what I said, I suggested that whether a cartoon is hate speech depends on the cartoon. I ddidn't mention religions, the ability of mocking them or blasphemy.
 

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Seems strange to me that you can’t express your opinion about a book. The Quran has passages where they essentially say it’s OK to kill me. Surely I should have the right to say that book is shit then? I would never word it that way by the way.

Don’t you find it scary someone is not allowed to express his own opinions on a book without being deemed Islamophobic?
The Quran doesn't say it's ok to kill you
 

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Seems strange to me that you can’t express your opinion about a book. The Quran has passages where they essentially say it’s OK to kill me. Surely I should have the right to say that book is shit then? I would never word it that way by the way.

Don’t you find it scary someone is not allowed to express his own opinions on a book without being deemed Islamophobic?
You can express it but it doesn't mean that your opinion is good or respectable. It depends on the substance of that opinion.
 

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I know those verses. But how is it "not fairing well"?

Some of those verses are found in Jewish scripture fyi.
I kind of already covered this in a lenghy discussion in the "Religion what's the point?" thread. If i'm going to have to go through it again it will just derail the thread.
 

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So if I say the Bible is shit am I an Christianophobe? Can I be a Hinduphobe because I think the caste system is terrible? Personally I think Islamophobia is a crockterm. It's deliberately construed to conflate critism of Islam with irrational bigotry.
You can have any sort of prejudice.
 

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You can have any sort of prejudice.
What if I have read the Quran, the life of Muhammed, Islamic history and I really don't like it or Sharia? There is something weird if people believe that a religion by default is good and people who don't like it are just some kind of phobes.