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Yes the team who are second in the league lack technical ability that all the other teams have.
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This.Nar, technically we're better, some of the first touches from us tonight have been superb. Other sides, like Brighton are just drilled to feck, we aren't and any who thinks we are has their heads in the clouds.
That's not really the point to be fair. The reason we're second in the league is because the players fitness and explosive attacking transitions are, generally, second to none and we have two very good centre backs with a midfield that covers them well and works as hard as anyone. The mentality is excellent too.Yes the team who are second in the league lack technical ability that all the other teams have.
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Yes, such a ludicrous claim, isn’t it?Yes the team who are second in the league lack technical ability that all the other teams have.
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Again this stupid hate against Fred and AWB, AWB was fine today even though nothing special. He's still young and has plenty of time to reach his potential while being pretty reliable player. It's only now when Shaw raised his bar finally to show his class, otherwise he's one of the 7/10 fullbacks who were solid and did nothing going forward except few runs. Wait for him, he will develop, otherwise well soon have Laird fighting for the same spot soon.Yep. Fred and AWB both being 50m players and utterly rubbish technically is ridiculous.
The OP isn't about style. It says our players lack basic technical ability when compared to other teams.That's not really the point to be fair. The reason we're second in the league is because the players fitness and explosive attacking transitions are, generally, second to none and we have two very good centre backs with a midfield that covers them well and works as hard as anyone. The mentality is excellent too.
Personally I don't think people have too much to complain about but It's not bad mouthing to say that the style leaves a bit to be desired though. Our football in Jose's second season was pretty dull but effective too.
2nd in the league and a Europa League final would be a very successful season if you count this as a 'rebuild'.
Name another full back as awkward and uncomfortable on the ball as AWB at a top side. This is the sort of thing you develop as a youth player, not as a 50m full back.Again this stupid hate against Fred and AWB, AWB was fine today even though nothing special. He's still young and has plenty of time to reach his potential while being pretty reliable player. It's only now when Shaw raised his bar finally to show his class, otherwise he's one of the 7/10 fullbacks who were solid and did nothing going forward except few runs. Wait for him, he will develop, otherwise well soon have Laird fighting for the same spot soon.
and Fred one of our best player easily today. Won the most ball, covered so much ground for Pogba and for second balls, started counter attacks, but what the hell you know about football right. This forum looks sometimes full of these 13 year old kids who always wanted to be Ronaldo because he scores goals but don't know that there is obviously someone who has to win the ball for him otherwise he's got no service.
This is spot on. Some posters underrate our players we have some of the most technically gifted players in the world in our squad. The question marks are over the way they are drilled to play.Nar, technically we're better, some of the first touches from us tonight have been superb. Other sides, like Brighton are just drilled to feck, we aren't and any who thinks we are has their heads in the clouds.
I actually agree about Fred. The one thing I’ll give AWB is that we have no RW what so ever and it’s been that way for years. He is not great going forward but it doesn’t help having nobody decent in front of him so I’ll save my judgement until we fix the RWName another full back as awkward and uncomfortable on the ball as AWB at a top side. This is the sort of thing you develop as a youth player, not as a 50m full back.
What the hell I know is in that for a central midfielder for Manchester United his ability on the ball is laughable. Will we revisit the Leicester game? Outside of his work rate and energy Fred just isn’t good enough. If he played for Brighton, Fulham, Newcastle etc we wouldn’t be clamouring to sign him.
Another two words OVERRATE PLAYERSOne word, COACHING!
Its crazy!-We lack basic technical ability
-We lack coaching
-We lack a solid defense
-We lack a top striker
-We lack quality on CM
-We need a right winger
-Our manager is tactically inept
-We are 2nd in the league
Did you feel the same way under Jose in 2017-2018?A few players are a little less able, technically, than we would like, yes, and I do think it is a problem in CM. Pogba in form is fine but Fred and McT cause us to lose possession a lot and that needs looking at.
As usual, half the posts in this thread are trying to blame this and everything else on the coaching (and managing?! Holy Feck). The very same coaching and managing that has us clear 2nd in the table (which, okay, ain’t good enough for some people but whatever).
Brighton may be a well-drilled team but they looked pretty shite to me and I’d much rather be us than them. Fred, for example, would probably improve the Brighton team but we all have to understand that Fred, for all his qualities, would still be a technically limited player and no amount of coaching will significantly change that.
In a bizarre alternate reality where Ole leaves and Potter gets the job, he lasts exactly five minutes, hounded out by nutters expecting him to get Fred playing like Zidane.
I didn’t blame Jose for our players lacking technique if that’s what you’re asking?Did you feel the same way under Jose in 2017-2018?
Only took 4 posts before the bullshit reared it's head.More like we lack basic coaching.
I don’t get if this is sarcastic. Pep would get this side playing like City - they wouldn’t be as good but they’d play a similar system and dominate the ball. That is literally what the coach is paid to do.Guardiola would have this squad playing like City don't you know? Because coaching.
The one thing missing was scoring goals though, which can be seen as problematic in this sport.We did the basics very well under LVG with worse players, make of that what you will.
But we are winning more this season. Make of that what you will.We did the basics very well under LVG with worse players, make of that what you will.
Being happy with being 2nd while being miles being 1st. Same as with Jose.I didn’t blame Jose for our players lacking technique if that’s what you’re asking?
I’m not happy about that. I just don’t blame the coach for some of the players being technically inadequate.Being happy with being 2nd while being miles being 1st. Same as with Jose.
That was my question.
Much better playersBut we are winning more this season. Make of that what you will.
A lot of teams do the basics very well. It’s easier to knock it about and make pretty patterns if you aren’t expected to win. Every week.But we are winning more this season. Make of that what you will.
In a season where quite a few big teams are underperforming. Especially Liverpool and Chelsea.-We lack basic technical ability
-We lack coaching
-We lack a solid defense
-We lack a top striker
-We lack quality on CM
-We need a right winger
-Our manager is tactically inept
-We are 2nd in the league
Equally just because a player can sometimes do something special doesn't mean they're highly technical.I've seen Fred do everything, from dribbling past players, controling the ball nicely and executing beautiful through passes, I have seen him feck up loads too.
I've also seen AWB do wounders with the ball at his feet, I've seen him feck up too.
So if you are asking do our players have the basic technical ability on the ball, I'd say they do, some of them are actually highly technical like Bruno, Pogba and Shaw, Martial on his day is a wizard on the ball, Greenwood is two footed, Matic manipulates the ball so good too, Mata is a magician, and Rashford has shown us what amazing things he can with the the ball on his feet.
Just because you see these players feck up with simple passes and touches many times during the game does not mean they lack basic technical ability.