If the news was published by KBS, it is one of three national public broadcaster in South Korea.
But i don't really understand how the racially abused come from Ole if all sentence came from reported post interview.
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South Korean media reports that Son was racially abused by Ole
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But i don't really understand how the racially abused come from Ole if all sentence came from reported post interview.
They are trying to damage man united and ole reputation with lies. We have to file a law suit here.
I think that originated on The United Stand, specifically Rants n Bants. He coined a bunch of slur names about Luke Shaw, Dan James etc.
The rally and support he would get from the national media would be different. That's all I meant. Not sure what you are talking about.
I love this. Anyone who has coached a sport will tell you this could potentially have a very positive effect on the attitude of the players. This is leadership.
Ole’s interview made me laugh, he couldn’t find his words and it sounded a bit silly “I wouldn’t give him food” 
I thought it was the responsibility of the child protection agency? Not Tottenham.
Yep. It was weird enough the first time. I really can't imagine OGS disciplining his children by not feeding them. It's just not done. Grounding them or withdrawing gaming privileges for a while maybe, but not that. It would be very wrong, obviously. I'm not making a big deal out of it because it's clear that what he's attempting to get across is clearly that playacting for advantage like Lamela and Son did violates basic standards of human decency and self -respect, not just in professional football but anywhere. Hence, it's the sort of thing a responsible parent should react against and not accept. But surely not by not giving your kids food. New analogy please!
Claims of "racial abuse" are however self-evidently ridiculous.
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He just said he wouldn't give his son food. I don't think there's any racism there but even if there were, Sons old enough to make his own food
Go to defensive move from PC people. It's laughable really. You can say it about anything
Let's not oversimplify this. Racial abuse in football is a real issue, a crucial one even, but that's all the more reason why it shouldn't be bandied about when there's absolutely no cause for it. And still less when a player of one ethnicity is basically treated like he would be if he was of any other ethnicity. Which I think is clear is the case here, re Ole's almost exactly similar comments about Lamela.
People lable everything racist these days. You can't attach it to everything just for the sake of it when it doesn't even hold any context. That is THE simplifying and wrongfully so.
Look at the title of this thread. That is sheer defamation of character.
Is it possible that this is just clumsily written in the article or poorly translated? Could they mean that Son received racial abuse from fans (which he did), and simply abuse from Ole (which is still extremely hyperbolic, but not a racism accusation)? After that one line in start, the article does not reference Ole's comments as being racist.
If they actually think what Ole said is racist, that is extremely stupid and detrimental to the efforts to combat the actual racism in football.
If they actually think what Ole said is racist, that is extremely stupid and detrimental to the efforts to combat the actual racism in football.
Sounds more like the daily news from North Korea than South Korea.
You are correct - he is smiling a lot, and his White teeth clearly drives global warming. Come to think of it - Luke Shaw deserves a mention in that respect.
Like I wrote, it is clearly ridiculous in this case. But I won't go along with making a general problem out of people making accusations of racism, or that it's generally done without cause. Often it isn't.
It just serves to trivialise actual racism, and racial abuse. People who call things out as racist when it’s not are just as bad, they are hurting equality just as much. The idiots can’t see it.
I agree with your theory. Most likely something lost in translation here.
Genuine question, I wonder how many of those idiots tweeting racist stuff are actually racist, and how many are just trolls who have found it a really effective way to wreak the kind of havok they have always dreamed of?
I don't doubt that there are plenty of actual racist idiots out there tweeting things, but I'm also convinced that there are some who are not 'genuine racists' in the purest sense of it (i.e. they don't hold actual negative beliefs about other races) and would change their tweets just as readily to something completely different if they could get the same level of flaming out of it. E.g. if the word Beetroot suddenly became the most offensive thing you could say to anyone, that's what they'd be doing.
I don't doubt that there are plenty of actual racist idiots out there tweeting things, but I'm also convinced that there are some who are not 'genuine racists' in the purest sense of it (i.e. they don't hold actual negative beliefs about other races) and would change their tweets just as readily to something completely different if they could get the same level of flaming out of it. E.g. if the word Beetroot suddenly became the most offensive thing you could say to anyone, that's what they'd be doing.
I suppose the racism angle would be the play on the surname.
Olle took the Surname and used it as a play about not feeding his Son. Perhaps the Koreans feel angry that someone using a Korean Surname to mean something else is racist?
Olle took the Surname and used it as a play about not feeding his Son. Perhaps the Koreans feel angry that someone using a Korean Surname to mean something else is racist?
Ole clearly couldn’t find the words he needed at the time and went for “no food” to signify an act of discipline after bad behaviour. I think it’s just the Ole version of “bed without supper”.
I am pretty sure his children are not malnourished! And I don’t think we need to dignify the racism comments aimed at Ole.
I am pretty sure his children are not malnourished! And I don’t think we need to dignify the racism comments aimed at Ole.
Why on earth would that be a play on the surname? His point was that he'd find that behavior unacceptable in his own kids. He made exactly the same point with exactly the same analogy when Erik Lamela went down like a stretcher case after Martial lightly brushed his face in the first game.
Why?
The translation of the media report in the OP does not indicate that Ole said anything racist. So to be honest the thread title should be changed. It’s probably inaccurate and a little inflammatory.
This is the world we live in. feck me.
A nothing story from a rag 5000 miles away.
Just feck off
A nothing story from a rag 5000 miles away.
Just feck off
Who are those in bold?
I'm offended they write the name of a legend from my country that way!
Manchester U.S?
It might only be shit google translations, but i sort of feel offended anyway!
Everything seem racist nowdays.
Calling this forum RedCafe might be racist to all other colours or dining places.
Calling this forum RedCafe might be racist to all other colours or dining places.
Partly to mix things up. Keep it interesting. Mainly because it’s a shit analogy. Which isn’t helped by Ole himself once getting Sol Campbell sent off after staying down for ages when he got a whack in the face.
KBS, MBC are two biggest media companies in Korea.
Tbf most Asian countries are very protective of their "national heroes". The news came as no surprise but the article doesn't say Son Heung Min was racially abused by Ole, they claim fans on social media did it.
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Eh, it's a fairly common thing to say in Norway. It's one of those hyperbolic "threats" that is never acted upon. When I was a teen, my dad told me he'd run after me until I starved to death if I ever started smoking. A friend's dad told us to behave or he'd "use one to beat the other with." Would be fun seeing Ole use one of those.
It was clearly a play on words
Well I’m all in favour of him mixing things up!This is absurd.
Really just a distraction from him rolling around cheating to have a goal chalked off. It was disgusting play acting but it is a Jose team and his teams have always been like this so it doesn't surprise me.
Really just a distraction from him rolling around cheating to have a goal chalked off. It was disgusting play acting but it is a Jose team and his teams have always been like this so it doesn't surprise me.
So the guy who wrote the story is basically called "Kinky Bum" ? Says it all really
It works for me, don't think he should venture away from analogies that are tried and tested whilst we're in such good form.
Has there been any update from the Korean news channels? Maybe a retraction about what they said regarding Ole?
and especially more so when trying to rank players who played for top teams in a historical manner (where does Messi rank compared to Ronaldo etc) but it’s still a relatively poor way of doing it. Kane has undoubtedly been one of the best strikers in the world for a while, yet if you compare his trophy haul to Gary Neville he’s eclipsed massively. Using trophy hauls to compare players in a sport like football doesn’t really work.
(just saw the other thread should have posted it in there)
Comparing trophy hauls has always been a poor way of judging players. It plays a part,
and especially more so when trying to rank players who played for top teams in a historical manner (where does Messi rank compared to Ronaldo etc) but it’s still a relatively poor way of doing it. Kane has undoubtedly been one of the best strikers in the world for a while, yet if you compare his trophy haul to Gary Neville he’s eclipsed massively. Using trophy hauls to compare players in a sport like football doesn’t really work.
(just saw the other thread should have posted it in there)
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The Writing Son The Wall
He could have killed him