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Only country with proper football ownershipIsnt it because German clubs are part owned by fans, and they knew their fans would never entertain this
Only country with proper football ownershipIsnt it because German clubs are part owned by fans, and they knew their fans would never entertain this
You respect it if it comes from clubs that have been historically bankrolled?Who stands to lose the most in the ESL out of all the clubs?
PSG.
It's a moot point, I respect it if it comes from a player from say Lille or Nantes but from PSG? Who've cheated FFP year after year and taken a shortcut to a subscription on European finals?
It's absolute bollocks. If it weren't for teams like PSG we wouldn't be in this mess.
The CL group stages are generally boring bar the odd big team elimination, even more so for europa league groups where hardly anyone decent is knocked out.I do think its funny that some people think this would be boring. Newsflash it wouldn't be at all.
Takeovers are probably irrelevant to this. I bet Madrid, Barcelona, Manutd, Liverpool, Arsenal, and the Italian clubs etc. would have still sought this out, eventually. The current owners aren't the only greedy people on the planet.We have known this FOR YEARS.
Have I woken up on a parallel Earth? Why are people so up in arms over this all of a sudden? Have we not been owned by the Glazers for years? Did we not know what they’re like?
Neville tweeting about socialism whilst working for Sky and never criticising the City owners. Herrera playing for PSG complaining about money ruining the game. People who openly campaigned for the Saudis to buy our club kicking off.
Have I gone utterly mad? Of course this is a shit decision but it’s the latest in a long list. If you wanted the Saudi’s to take over us, if you haven’t been up in arms about PSG or City ruining the game how on Earth is this the straw that broke the camels back?
Simple.I am surprised that Bayern and BVB really seem to stay away.
The last time Bayern seemed like one of the initiators.
Oh, excellent stuff. We can all rest easy now, our fears of it being a tedious, money-driven enterprise with no element of fairness and competition have been quelled by @TrustInJanuzaj with that statement.I do think its funny that some people think this would be boring. Newsflash it wouldn't be at all.
Imagine this season in the PL with a super league. All the super league clubs other than City would have nothing to play for since end of January (or even before that in some of the teams cases) as soon as City ran away with the title. You'd see them all resting players for mid week super league games. Why even bother watching the PL when nothing to play for?you mean the CL or the SL?
i don't really see this argument that no one will care about winning the domestic leagues anymore. teams still try and win the league right now, despite the CL. why would it change? of course everyone is going to still want to win the league.
see above. also, people take the piss about competing for a top 4 position, and now it's being praised as making things more interesting? and the top 6 is a cash cow for the PL, they will lose money, sponsorship, tv rights, everything if they leave. the big 6 know this. they have the power.
i'm not even saying the SL is a good idea necessarily, but these arguments i don't think stand.
The general situation. I know this has beeb threatened before many times but cant believe United are pushing ahead with this.To what, a tweet? A post? The general situation? Ole actually winning 5 on the trot ?
Honestly, they were just an example. I don't know enough about French football. I could've said, St Etienne or Troyes. Doesn't really matter.You respect it if it comes from clubs that have been historically bankrolled?
The bucs were pretty much shit for the last 15 years until Brady showed up, his contract wasn’t even that much that man just wants to win and he brings players who want to win as well and that will fit Cap space because they know they have a chance of winning.I cant agree with this. This is acting as if they are happy with 400m. Theyll want to keep it increasing. Their investment of the buccaneers in this exact setup proves this. Their revenue stream will shrink with shitty tv deals if they just sit back.
I'd be all for that, but seeing as Cork City were relegated to the second tier of League of Ireland last year it probably a touch unrealistic.It is guesswork and we're speculating but Rangers and Celtic would want in. Maybe Cork City? I'm sure Everton, Newcastle and a few others would get involved for more money than the PL are currently offering. I think a breakaway is inevitable now to be honest
We have domestic stadiums to fill. What's stopping a self run streaming service for all 'new breakaway PL' being set up? I'm sure more teams would happily sign up if they were guaranteed more money than they currently get in the PL.Who is going to breakaway and where?
The point is they didn't have to. They could have been happy to participate and rake in the money.Brady was a free agent.
Glazers did not pay for any transfer fee or draft picks
Hey, we can all dream right? Didn't know Cork had fallen on hard times.I'd be all for that, but seeing as Cork City were relegated to the second tier of League of Ireland last year it probably a touch unrealistic.
Then again, if Spurs can be in a Super League you never know.
What about after a few games when it is apparent who the top 5 will be so all games between bottom 5 will be absolutely pointless. Especially if the founders are in the bottom 5 as they will still be in the competition again next year. no matter whatI do think its funny that some people think this would be boring. Newsflash it wouldn't be at all.
I'm sure he wouldn't but he went there and got his check. Let's not forget he left United to get that check. I'm not saying that they are the main culprits but he's certainly a part of the problem.Like I have said, it isn't Herrara's fault the owners are like that is it? He's a football player with a passion, as we saw at United and I'm pretty sure if he was at Lille or Nantes he would not have a different view.
Sent from TurkeyCan't do much more than laugh about the hypocrisy
Do you want players to speak up or not? What the feck is even this opinion.Can't do much more than laugh about the hypocrisy
Agnelli being a snake isn't exactly knew, anyone that has been following the UEFA-ECA dealing in the last decades knows that he is the head snake and has been pushing for these kind of things from day one. It's part of the revamping he has started with Juventus including their awful new logo.
I disagree with this as a principle, but watching the best players playing against each other every week should be the dream for every football fan. The group stages are boring because 50% of the teams in the competition are dross. I guarantee that playing Madrid will never get boring, nor will Ronaldo Vs Messi etc. It would be the highest level of football ever showcased.The CL group stages are generally boring bar the odd big team elimination, even more so for europa league groups where hardly anyone decent is knocked out.
So basically with this format you're playing 3 times as many group matches before you get to the knock out rounds where it heats up.
So? Again, not his fault PSG offered him that much money. You're telling me, if you could basically double your wage (weekly), you wouldn't take it? People want money. Players aren't the issue here, the owners are.I'm sure he wouldn't but he went there and got his check. Let's not forget he left United to get that check. I'm not saying that they are the main culprits but he's certainly a part of the problem.
It would be worse if he didn't say anything, though. It needs more players speaking out against it, but ideally from the clubs that are going to be joining.I'm sure he wouldn't but he went there and got his check. Let's not forget he left United to get that check. I'm not saying that they are the main culprits but he's certainly a part of the problem.
Isn't that part of the new UCL proposal?Chris Purslow putting it really well:
The Villa chief executive Christian Purslow, formerly of Liverpool, has branded the Super League a “grotesque concept”. Speaking to BBC Radio Four, he said: “These proposals do away with sporting merit. It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for. The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business model of these huge clubs. So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they’re badly managed or have a poor year, they’re still in the premier tournament. Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept.”
I'm calling out the insane amount of hypocrisy on display.Do you want players to speak up or not? What the feck is even this opinion.
As I've said there are 1000 reasons why this shouldn't happen, but anyone using 'boring' as a reason is simply wrong. These would be the best players and clubs competing against each other every week. That never will be boring I'm sorry if people cant see that through the rightful outrage.Oh, excellent stuff. We can all rest easy now, our fears of it being a tedious, money-driven enterprise with no element of fairness and competition have been quelled by @TrustInJanuzaj with that statement.
Teams will still want to win the prem yes, but if they’re also in the super league that will obviously take priority so players will be rested/youth played in the prem, and with the super league teams having no real objective to win the prem or finish high as it wouldn’t lead to qualification of anything anyway. So when these 6 finish in random places in the top ten, possibly relegation places the champions league and Europa league places will be taken up by a mish mash of positions not the top teams of the league. It’ll be a mess.you mean the CL or the SL?
i don't really see this argument that no one will care about winning the domestic leagues anymore. teams still try and win the league right now, despite the CL. why would it change? of course everyone is going to still want to win the league.
see above. also, people take the piss about competing for a top 4 position, and now it's being praised as making things more interesting? and the top 6 is a cash cow for the PL, they will lose money, sponsorship, tv rights, everything if they leave. the big 6 know this. they have the power.
i'm not even saying the SL is a good idea necessarily, but these arguments i don't think stand.
Why is the club wanting more money an issue then? You could apply the exact same logic.So? Again, not his fault PSG offered him that much money. You're telling me, if you could basically double your wage (weekly), you wouldn't take it? People want money. Players aren't the issue here, the owners are.
What if, I dunno, money is better distributed so that there are no dross teams...????I disagree with this as a principle, but watching the best players playing against each other every week should be the dream for every football fan. The group stages are boring because 50% of the teams in the competition are dross. I guarantee that playing Madrid will never get boring, nor will Ronaldo Vs Messi etc. It would be the highest level of football ever showcased.
People want money, yet here you are complaining over the super league?So? Again, not his fault PSG offered him that much money. You're telling me, if you could basically double your wage (weekly), you wouldn't take it? People want money.
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Ok. You call out the only people with influence who can do anything whatsoever about this every time they comment. That will teach them.I'm calling out the insane amount of hypocrisy on display.
The only thing missing is Saudi Arabia taking a humanitarian stand against the World Cup in Qatar
For sure, don't for one minute believe PSG will make any kind of stand, they haven't got the legs to stand with.I'd expect PSG will be well on board once their owners are confident their won't be any negative impact toward the World Cup they're hosting
Yes, but so are Real, Barsa and Atlético. I wonder if their rules and regulations allow them to make this move without consulting their members?Isnt it because German clubs are part owned by fans, and they knew their fans would never entertain this