European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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DomesticTadpole

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Baseball is totally different and I wouldn't have made the point that I made about NBA for Baseball. In Baseball teams genuinely tank and tank really hard, for example Baltimore recently. In the NBA it happens but you can't say that it's 15 teams it's 2 or 3 teams out of 30 at the most, for example the Timberwoves aren't tanking, KAT requires surgery but he is still playing big minutes, if the Wolves wanted to tank they could take him out and guarantee to finish last. In the NFL tanking is nearly impossible because players can't half arse it, some teams are simply very bad but the players try hard and you seldomly see lineups that don't feature the best players.
Not sure if baseball still pay 'Luxury Tax', but going back it was well known that owners of smaller teams just pocketed it and did not use it to strengthen their own teams.
 

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To start with it should be not a 36 team tournament. Present format is bloated already and the new format makes it even more boring. Maybe have more knockout matches before starting group matches to make the groups more competitive. ESL actually gets one thing correct that most want European football to be more competitive. If they didnt have founding member being permanent feature, this would be much more acceptable to all ( i mean more competitive games). After all, despite all the hue and cry, only Everton (in 2005) and Leicester ( after they won the league) made it to CL apart from the 6 who are part of ESL.

They need to find a balance and provide much shorter version of European cup competition. Also I want strict rule that no club is allowed infusion of capital from its owner if their turnover is beyond certain amount. For smaller clubs certain percentage of turnover can be allowed to be infused from owner but only for a certain period of time. This would have solved most of the problem clubs are facing already as the inflation due to super rich owners have made business unsustainable for clubs which rely only on their revenue.

Hopefully a system which rewards shrewd investment and academy of football club is proposed and accepted. This alongwith competitive European cup games would be my ideal choice.
Why shouldn't the CL have that many teams? We need representation from all leagues to make it a true European competition. Just because you don't like the minnows competing shouldn't deny them the chance to experience the CL, would you be happy if the world cup was just 8 - 16 teams?

The super league is literally the opposite of what you're describing, the gap between big teams and small teams will be larger than ever with all the wealth and talent flowing upwards into the ESL where 15 teams will hoard the wealth and power of the entire sport. UEFA needs to change as does football in general but creating a league for the uber wealthy and Amazon streamers is not the way forward.

As far as I can see, this is a complete and utter coup. We have a shady little cabal of business men and bankers conspiring in secret to overthrow one of the most prestigious competitions on the planet so that they can line their own pockets. These assholes aren't acting in the best interest of the fans, they have no regard for us and the comments from Perez show an utter lack of respect for our intelligence.

Why do you dislike the current format so much out of interest? Why does the amount of teams bother you so much? What do you think the qualifying standards should be?
 

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Notice how they didn’t say they wouldn’t want to be involved

Yeah they should smash it down, and for that, we need to make Amazon PR freak out about the bad image. Then, the JPM guys will start think that this is not as lucrative as it would be, in fact, it could be far worse as they might have misunderstood what sports and football means outside of North America. Then hopefully, those a******** in Madrid and United will understand the reality.
 

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Feck off, Amazon. They will be all over this like a rash. Cnuts.
They stand for the common man. Unless he's an employee reading the statement on his mobile while on the bog. In which case he just had his pay docked.
 

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If this is genuine it's all very brave for players who have had great careers and closing in on retirement, Rashford and Greenwood saying they can go and play for Port Vale is not quite the same for them.
Why is there a competition going on here to diminish so many personal rejections of this proposed monstrosity?
 

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Didn't amazon say their employees don't piss and bottles but it turned out they had rules for pissing bottles the whole time?

They also tried to create fake twitter accounts where they opposed unionisation.

Basically, don't believe anything they say.
 

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I wonder if the bankers, lawyers, investors, owners and co. foresaw the amount of political backlash. UEFA's rage was predictable but to have EU leaders put out a united front (for now) and turn it into a political battle of national identities seems unexpected to me. Will this subside in a couple of weeks?
 

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“We” are not. The Glazers are. I’d support any movement that pushed the message that the Glazers are not Manchester United, they own us by they aren’t the soul of the club. People shouldn’t hate on Man Utd, they should feel sad that one of the greatest clubs in the history global sport are being used like this. It’s really tragic and upsetting honestly. We never wanted the Glazers, we never wanted this.
We can't sit here and tell the Glazers that, even though we disagree, they can do whatever they want, because we'll support the club no matter what and continue to put money in their pockets. If we join the ESL and you're still on board, you're part of it, it's that simple. They need to know that this time there will be consequences and we simply won't accept it.
 

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I never heard about that. And Americans love it?
They don't love it but they fully understand it. It's a bit weird but basically it's one way to get the draft pick. It's stupid. I don't want football to be ran that way.
 

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I hope our players react a bit like Zlatan. That they clearly announce that they will play the European Championships and the World Cup for their national team. That they can find another team to play for if things do not change.
 

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Why is there a competition going on here to diminish so many personal rejections of this proposed monstrosity?
Because people have to get realistic, expelling the big six from the PL is not the answer, making players or managers speak out against their employers in public is not the answer. The argument will get polarised instead of trying to come to a solution.
 

Reapersoul20

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That Zalatan quote - I can't find a source anywhere and it has a bunch of formatting/spelling mistakes.
 
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Fair play to Guardiola. The only player or manager so far to actually come out with something of substance and something real

I'm assuming Zlatan's quotes are fake since I can't find any source for them.