Protest at Old Trafford

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Bet a few choice words were said after Sky Sports went off air - them filling for time meant the conversation was starting to get derailed and tempers frayed. You could see the distain that Carragher, Neville and Keane had for Dave Jones' decision to keep reverting back to the actions of a minority of fans.
 

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Someone made the good shout of having it somewhere neutral.

I think they should do that, and not declare it.
Personally I'd announce the time of the game and only inform the relevant people of the venue change (match day delegations, TV etc) and I'd move it to Leigh Sports Village.
 

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Well it's either tomorrow or Tuesday (small chances as it's only 2 days from our game vs Roma) or Liverpool getting 3-0 win automatically imo, don't think they'd agree to playing 3 games in 6 days because of our fans entering Old Trafford today :lol:
Can't see Tuesday, as it'd have to be an evening kick off, making it even closer to the Thursday game.
Monday works brilliantly I think.

I looked through all other connotations and there's no other route. You can't even slot us v Liverpool in on their blank on the 12th May, as that'd mean we still need to squeeze the Leicester game in, , which could only sensibly be played...tomorrow :lol:
 

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Sky basically saying they support any fan actions up to but not including a match being postponed.
Sky were more than happy to whip fans up into a frothing rage in order to get the ESL cancelled, but when it spills over and starts affecting their bottom line they put their hands up and start going "woah, let's calm down there" :lol:
 

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Personally I'd announce the time of the game and only inform the relevant people of the venue change (match day delegations, TV etc) and I'd move it to Leigh Sports Village.
I'd probably keep it to a premier ground, but somewhere that only the most obsessive will try and get to once it's emerged where it is 30mins before kick off.
And you'd have to have a lot of security too.
 

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Sky are cnuts.. they were anti ESL due to it supporting their agenda now the same fans who were against the SL are stopping games and being painted as villains. At least Neville and Carragher are sticking to their beliefs....and to think folk on here thought Neville was undoubtedly agenda driven.
 

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I'd probably keep it to a premier ground, but somewhere that only the most obsessive will try and get to once it's emerged where it is 30mins before kick off.
And you'd have to have a lot of security too.
Then the Emptyhad is surely the most logical?
 

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Give over.
It's Covid rules which are the issue here.
It's to do with how they get to the ground etc, they have to travel in separate coaches to non playing staff, it's easier to keep then together otherwise the protocols may not be followed and the class b will be fined or worse have a potential Covid outbreak.
Stop with the hysteria!!
I don't get what you mean. The players have been stuck in their rooms all day.
 

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You accuse me of putting words in your mouth and then go and respond by putting words in my mouth. :lol:

I never said you condoned violence and I was making a point that violence has been successful in situations where there is a large mass of people who have been disenfranchised and/or abused in some form. The example of England revolting was meant to illustrate that point and of course it would not happen.

I referred to the other comments in the thread in regards to forms of protest against civil injustice etc.

I responded directly to a poster who implied violence was the ONLY successful means of protesting. Why don't you take a gander through the thread before you start making assumptions about the points people are trying to make.
Violence is never the first solution and it's never a solution for something as "trivial" as football when you look at the grand scheme of things.

However, hashtags and the green and gold campaign aren't helping so something needs to be changed in the fans make their feelings known. As long as they protest and not harm any human being or the property of innocent bystanders, I am fine with it. Breaking a few cameras barely makes any difference even though that's not required either.

Getting a game of this magnitude postponed is a huge first step and if this can be now leveraged, it will finally start a movement against those leeches.
 

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Looking at the schedule then

THUR 6 MAY Roma A
SUN 9 MAY Villa A
WED 12 MAY Leicester H
SAT/SUN 15/16 Blank, but Liverpool play West Brom (who have a game tomorrow, so can't move this fixture into the midweek TUE/WED 4/5 MAY
WED 19 MAY Fulham H
SUN 23 MAY Wolves A
WED 26 MAY Europa Final

Looks like it's tomorrow, or they have to do a horrible squeeze of 3 games in 6 days by inching one of these games on day.
This has been raised several times and people have said several times that the obvious thing to do is move Liverpool/West Brom to the midweek before and play United/Liverpool at the weekend. Provided safety can be assured, the calendar can easily cope currently.

Literally already been precedent for this already this very season.
 

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Demonstrations are never meaningless
Horses for courses. In politics, it has some success but against billionaires? Especially, in the sphere of football, I doubt it will have any success at all.
 

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Side note but if we don't play this game tomorrow and can't this week, it means we can't hand City the title by losing to Liverpool. Plus City will have to go all out against Chelsea at the weekend which they may not have done had they already won the title.
 

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I don't get what you mean.
If they send them home tonight and the game gets rearranged for tomorrow, which is the suggestion at the moment, then Covid protocols may not be easy to follow, eg, getting the players to the game in the correct way (on a separate coach), anyone the players come into contact with on game day/day before has to have had a negative Covid test in the past 24hrs, again this is hard to implement if the players go home, etc etc
It's easier to keep them in the hotel.
 

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Accountant giving Joel a paper report of the number of buys the match had today.
Joel - what do you mean zero, the game was called off
Accountant - There is more bad news sir. The fans broke a lock on the door in the tunnel which will need replacing
 

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Protesting is great but given there was violence I won't be surprised if we get a point deduction.
Can the club get a points deduction when they weren't responsible for match-going fans. Different if it had happened during a live game and fans had invaded the pitch. How are they responsible when the ground was closed though?
 

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I agree that tomorrow is the easiest but sorry it's not a good precedent. They've never asked anyone to play Monday Night Football and then Thursday... especially when we have to fly to Rome - that's the difference to Sat to Tues...
Chelsea had to play Spurs in a FA Cup SF on the Sunday 4.30pm, followed by Barcelona on Tuesday away in a Champions League SF in 2012.
 

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If they send them home tonight and the game gets rearranged for tomorrow, which is the suggestion at the moment, then Covid protocols may not be easy to follow, eg, getting the players to the game in the correct way (on a separate coach), anyone the players come into contact with on game day/day before has to have had a negative Covid test in the past 24hrs, again this is hard to implement if the players go home, etc etc
It's easier to keep them in the hotel.
Ah fair enough but it's already been said that tomorrow is very unlikely and the Liverpool players have gone home.
 

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You really have to be a proper sheep to not understand reactions of Sky, other broadcasts and United at the end and they would try similar tricks if there werent idiots doing certain stuff, because we all know, muppets will reply with " but those idiots gave them ammo for it "
 

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Can the club get a points deduction when they weren't responsible for match-going fans. Different if it had happened during a live game and fans had invaded the pitch. How are they responsible when the ground was closed though?
No idea but I think the Premier League will make an example to dissuade any other fans doing this.

"Feck with our broadcasting and money and we will come down like the hammer of Thor on your club."
 

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Best form of protest would be for fans to come together and refuse to buy any merchandise. No one buy the new kit, that would hit them directly, particularly with a new sponsor.

Glazers can ignore fan protests but they won't ignore the protests of disgruntled sponsors!
 
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There seems to be a lot of hysteria on this forum right now.

The bigger picture is we are living through history right now, the fans have managed to postpone a game and have had their voice well and truly heard, never before has this happened like this in the premiership.

This HAD to happen, and I'm glad it was United fans who took the leap first. Hopefully others will follow.
The game is nothing without the fans, it's time the owners realised this, hence the 'we decide when you play' chants, the fans should always have the power over money.
Yes there were some actions today which paint a poor light on the proceedings, but these were small in comparison to the main outcome, so don't let them dictate the main focal point of all this.

And please stop with the hysteria, the outrage over people throwing a flare, or jumping on the bonnet of a car, and please concentrate on the important aspects of this protest.
 

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This has been raised several times and people have said several times that the obvious thing to do is move Liverpool/West Brom to the midweek before and play United/Liverpool at the weekend. Provided safety can be assured, the calendar can easily cope currently.

Literally already been precedent for this already this very season.
Yep, only just spotted that. Damn, I needed it played this weekend for fantasy footy reasons :lol: