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Of course. I’m not implying what he did there was something he learned on a course.Except there trained not to.
Of course. I’m not implying what he did there was something he learned on a course.Except there trained not to.
Doubt they’d have gone home from the hotel if it was tomorrow.Betfair has the game listed for 3pm tomorrow. But nothing seems to have been confirmed.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/pl...r-league/man-utd-v-liverpool-betting-30438210
Centrist Dad angle aside, I don't think anyone was taking mortal offence. The angle being spun, however, is not that of a few fans being thugs by the media and a level of balance reflecting that in tense situations like this there'll be some who feel the need to be pricks amongst the Police as well as the fans is unlikely to be forthcoming.Hard to feel too outraged at the copper getting some digs in. If we’re not going to let a few fans being thugs tarnish the protest as a whole I don’t think we can also take mortal offence at a few coppers getting carried away. For all we know they just saw one of their pals have his face opened with a bottle so understandable if they’re a bit strung out.
I think it's important to bring it to everyone's attention so next time the organisers make sure something like this won't happen again.It was a proud day. I've been going home and away for 20 years. I cant think of many better.
But you focus on that one incident mate.
Psychologically, it might be better for them to be home than at the hotel.Doubt they’d have gone home from the hotel if it was tomorrow.
I'm sure I've seen people saying that debts are normal in businesses here before, in an attempt to justify what the Glazers has done to United.Tweet
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Haven’s read any media coverage. Just seen loads of posts on here pointing out that a handful of protesters being violent arseholes shouldn’t distract from the bigger picture. Which I agree with 100%.Centrist Dad angle aside, I don't think anyone was taking mortal offence. The angle being spun, however, is not that of a few fans being thugs by the media and a level of balance reflecting that in tense situations like this there'll be some who feel the need to be pricks amongst the Police as well as the fans is unlikely to be forthcoming.
...and I'll leave the fact that, being the Police, you'd probably prefer them not to beat the feck out of people.
What's the point of deleting it once it's gone viral?Youtube mirror for the video in case it gets deleted from Reddit, too
Weird stance to take. We should be proud to live in a country where we feel the need to have relatively little security and don’t need armed police everywhere. Even more enlightened countries have even less need for it.Biggest club in the world's security
Neither is acceptable.Hard to feel too outraged at the copper getting some digs in. If we’re not going to let a few fans being thugs tarnish the protest as a whole I don’t think we can also take mortal offence at a few coppers getting carried away. For all we know they just saw one of their pals have his face opened with a bottle so understandable if they’re a bit strung out.
None of it has to justify anything though.Hopefully the officers are held accountable but I won't hold my breathe. It still doesn't justify the face slashing and other violent acts.
It was posted on Twitter and was deleted for some reason, and sometimes stuff gets deleted from Reddit too, so I posted a Youtube link as a backup in case the Reddit video gets removed for any reason.What's the point of deleting it once it's gone viral?
If only you listen in future. *Sigh*Reading beyond the headline - very proud day indeed. Thanks for sharing the article.
It's a fair cop Sir although I'd argue that the violence on both sides is equally unacceptable and I'm fairly sure that the coverage will only discuss that unacceptability from one perspective.Haven’s read any media coverage. Just seen loads of posts on here pointing out that a handful of protesters being violent arseholes shouldn’t distract from the bigger picture. Which I agree with 100%.
I just think it would be weird to simultaneously hold that few and get worked up about one or two cops giving someone a relatively tame beating. Now I don’t know if anyone really is worked up about that footage. I was just explaining why it doesn’t bother me. If anyone ever chooses to get involved in violent protests where police get hurt I would say a few digs from the boys in blue is an acceptable occupational hazard.
You expect more from your police force.Hard to feel too outraged at the copper getting some digs in. If we’re not going to let a few fans being thugs tarnish the protest as a whole I don’t think we can also take mortal offence at a few coppers getting carried away. For all we know they just saw one of their pals have his face opened with a bottle so understandable if they’re a bit strung out.
You have to comment on everything remotely related to law enforcement, didn't you know?What?
Neither is acceptable. Both are inevitable. It’s weird to me that anyone could expect heated clashes like that to not end up with some bumps and bruises. On both sides.Neither is acceptable.
He actually does do that, particularly in this thread, hence why I thought he'd be interested.You have to comment on everything remotely related to law enforcement, didn't you know?
I think oddly some on the Caf will use whatever they can to justify violence. Not sure I understand really. Not of it is acceptable and you often find the ones trying to justify it have never been near anything like that in their lives nor will they ever.You have to comment on everything remotely related to law enforcement, didn't you know?
Also, why the feck don't the cops do something about my noisy neigbours?
True.Neither is acceptable.
Yes and no. With yank cops regularly showing us what it looks like to have law enforcement actually go rogue it’s hard to feel bothered about some low level scuffling during events like today.You expect more from your police force.
I took offence to you saying feck the police earlier as I have friends working today involved in that.He actually does do that, particularly in this thread, hence why I thought he'd be interested.
What had the guy who they were punching actually done? Or was just being there enough for you to be ok with it?Haven’s read any media coverage. Just seen loads of posts on here pointing out that a handful of protesters being violent arseholes shouldn’t distract from the bigger picture. Which I agree with 100%.
I just think it would be weird to simultaneously hold that few and get worked up about one or two cops giving someone a relatively tame beating. Now I don’t know if anyone really is worked up about that footage. I was just explaining why it doesn’t bother me. If anyone ever chooses to get involved in violent protests where police get hurt I would say a few digs from the boys in blue is an acceptable occupational hazard.
To be honest, I don’t think there’s much he could have done to justify summary justice from the cops. I’m not saying what they did was justified. It was definitely out of order. I just think a) it’s not a particularly violent/shocking incident and b) incidents like that are to be expected in skirmishes like we saw today.What had the guy who they were punching actually done? Or was just being there enough for you to be ok with it?
Honestly, that's what I was thinking while watching that. If it happened here, no way it would have resulted with only a facial cut and a cop getting a few punches in.Yes and no. With yank cops regularly showing us what it looks like to have law enforcement actually go rogue it’s hard to feel bothered about some low level scuffling during events like today.
No I'm saying that I can't see the point of Riddit deleting it once it's viral. Once it's out there, it's out there but yeah there is no harm posting it from different sources so that we are sure it stays available.It was posted on Twitter and was deleted for some reason, and sometimes stuff gets deleted from Reddit too, so I posted a Youtube link as a backup in case the Reddit video gets removed for any reason.
Apologies if I misunderstood your post/question
Potentially safer.Psychologically, it might be better for them to be home than at the hotel.
Do they actually stay overnight in the hotel, or just meet up there though?Doubt they’d have gone home from the hotel if it was tomorrow.
You joke but this is genuinely one of the most common things police deal withYou have to comment on everything remotely related to law enforcement, didn't you know?
Also, why the feck don't the cops do something about my noisy neigbours?
That looks like a Proud Boys initiation compared to what we see over here.Youtube mirror for the video in case it gets deleted from Reddit, too
So you suggest what? Violent protests? That's such a stupid notion - Against who exactly? I'm sure Joel Glazer wasn't even in the vicinity.I am sorry if someone got hurt, but let's lay the facts here.
Glazers knew there will be protest today. They just don't want to put money in. In this case they were hoping that British government would pay for security. Another case of nonivestment from Glazers.
But anybody who has said that this has gone too far today.
just peaceful protest doesnt work on Glazers.
They have taken 1,5 billion pound out of the club
Club still has 500 million pound debt which is all on Glazers
Glazers have not put 1 cent of their own money into the club
During Fergies time under Glazers, Fergie made Glazers profit on transfers.
Carrington and our Academy needs investment
And as we could all see now, Old Trafford needs investment
And the biggest problem is that Glazers dont have money to invest and they WILL NEVER PUT THEIR OWN MONEY INTO THE CLUB. they wont.
Their rules are
1) Dividends for themselves
2) Debt repayments
3) plastering over the cracks
4) bonus payments to Glazer boardmembers for good for that they did last year
5) what is left goes to other boardmembers bonus payments
6) then comes transfers
...
104) investment into the club
sorry, but time is over for peaceful protest. It doesnt work on someone who is not human
Ah that’s a good point. We stayed overnight under Fergie didn’t we? Not sure about Ole.Do they actually stay overnight in the hotel, or just meet up there though?
And it wouldn't have been decided by the time they'd left anyway.
Sadly, we've been de-sensitized to another level here.That looks like a Proud Boys initiation compared to what we see over here.