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Would have made more sense to bring back the cup winners cup than this woeful creation
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They will be knocked out by jose's roma.Good opportunity for Spurs to win it so they can qualify for the Europa league next season.
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Get your own backFor a big club this is like being dropped into gunge on those shite game shows years ago
Harry Train!
Good joke but no that is a small local stadium in Slovakia and that train is a local tourist attraction. The club is playing in the 4th tier.
That could solve the train line problem at Old Trafford just move the South Stand right back and have the train lines run along the side of the pitch.
Well from the next season clubs that will finish third in the group will play a playoff match against each other because only half of them will actually get to play in the lower competition.I dont really like the aspect of descending to a lower European Cup during the season. The #3 of the CL shouldnt drop into the Europa League and the #3 of the EL shouldnt drop into the Conference League. When you start in a competition, thats your competition and that it.
This way it will remain harder still for clubs for whom the Conference League is actually meant (clubs from smaller countries) to actually win it, as its very likely more clubs from bigger countries will drop down after the groupstages.
I can United why you say United being in the EL this season devalues it, while we started out in the CL - as there's an argument teams shouldn't drop down and have two bites of the cherry.Why don't they just introduce a wage cap on these shit competitions? United shouldn't be playing in an EL final and Tottenham shouldn't be playing in an Europa Conference. It devalues the whole competition.
That's the one!Get your own back
Conference winner will get europa spot and europa winners will get CL spot. I think teams finishing 3rd in europa group stage will drop to Conference league but no CL team will drop to Conference as they will only drop to europa knock out stages.I have little idea how this will work.
I assume you got qualifier liked it used to be for Europa league. Then group stage and then playoff?
How is Europa league working though with this new version?
Can teams move from CL to Europa league or Conference league? Does Conference and EL winner get CL spot?
"and Fernandinho has just shoved Bruno into an oncoming train. No booking says the ref"That could solve the train line problem at Old Trafford just move the South Stand right back and have the train lines run along the side of the pitch.
The European competitions are weighted in the favour of the big teams to win all the time, and the relative strength of the PL means that good teams end up in the shitty competitions, only to get knocked out in the semi's by a decent team that dropped out of the CL after the group stage. The days of minnows winning these competitions are gone.I can United why you say United being in the EL this season devalues it, while we started out in the CL - as there's an argument teams shouldn't drop down and have two bites of the cherry.
But a lot of the furore about the SL was about how league positions should decide European qualifications and not entitlement. So if Spurs finish 7th, why shouldn't they be in the Europa Conference? And if a team like United, Liverpool, finish outside the top 4 for a season, why shouldn't they be in the Europa League? And how does some strong teams being in a competition, based on where they finished in their domestic league, 'devalue' it?
Ok it makes sense I guess, but for a PL team getting to Conference must be a big blow. If no CL spot for them.Conference winner will get europa spot and europa winners will get CL spot. I think teams finishing 3rd in europa group stage will drop to Conference league but no CL team will drop to Conference as they will only drop to europa knock out stages.
Where wrong with Iceland? Pitches and infrastructure in Iceland is off decent standard.It’s nice, you will play in places like iceland and kirgikistan
I think PL teams will have little interest in being in Conference league, although I feel team like everton can make a name for themselves by being in that competition and winning it.Ok it makes sense I guess, but for a PL team getting to Conference must be a big blow. If no CL spot for them.
I feel the interest for Conference and Europa league might go down when there is less good sides in it.
I just feel it is too much football. Like 3 different levels is a lot to follow.I think PL teams will have little interest in being in Conference league, although I feel team like everton can make a name for themselves by being in that competition and winning it.
Other clubs from eastern europe or even from italy or france will enjoy the competition and try to win it. Ultimately it is a trophy and fans will have a good outing, which they may never have had if not for this tournament. I have seen many non PL clubs fans enjoy europa and will enjoy this Conference. Of course we as United fans don't want our club to be associated with europa let alone Conference league but I can't say same for clubs like union berlin for example.
I completely disagree with the bits in bold. It's like arguing big teams should be banned from domestic leagues and cups because it's 'unfair' that they win them a lot; big countries like Brazil, England, Germany, etc, should be banned from World Cups, Euros, Copa America, etc. USA and Mexico banned from the Gold Cup... Just because being big and successful is an 'unfair' advantage.The European competitions are weighted in the favour of the big teams to win all the time, and the relative strength of the PL means that good teams end up in the shitty competitions, only to get knocked out in the semi's by a decent team that dropped out of the CL after the group stage. The days of minnows winning these competitions are gone.
I'd happily not watch United play on Thursday night ever again, even if we finished 5th and qualified for the EL. We should be banned from playing in it. Our wage cap is so big that the players we are fielding are clearly better than any team from Scandinavia or Eastern Europe, same applies for Spurs in whatever they're going to be doing next season. It would be much fairer to the competition if Leeds were given the place instead.
If you introduce a maximum wage cap for the EL and then deny teams a place in that competition despite qualifying on sporting merit. Do you then think the CL should also have a minimum wage cap?The European competitions are weighted in the favour of the big teams to win all the time, and the relative strength of the PL means that good teams end up in the shitty competitions, only to get knocked out in the semi's by a decent team that dropped out of the CL after the group stage. The days of minnows winning these competitions are gone.
I'd happily not watch United play on Thursday night ever again, even if we finished 5th and qualified for the EL. We should be banned from playing in it. Our wage cap is so big that the players we are fielding are clearly better than any team from Scandinavia or Eastern Europe, same applies for Spurs in whatever they're going to be doing next season. It would be much fairer to the competition if Leeds were given the place instead.
You are spot on.I completely disagree with the bits in bold. It's like arguing big teams should be banned from domestic leagues and cups because it's 'unfair' that they win them a lot; big countries like Brazil, England, Germany, etc, should be banned from World Cups, Euros, Copa America, etc. USA and Mexico banned from the Gold Cup... Just because being big and successful is an 'unfair' advantage.
I can understand saying it's wrong for teams to drop down into a second competition in the same season; and maybe saying 'seeding' strong teams so they avoid each other is unfair. But saying that if a team is deemed 'too good' for a competition that they've qualified for then they shouldn't be allowed into it and a lower placed team deemed 'more suitable' should be given the place instead is ludicrous.
And it goes against the whole 'European spots should be earned on merit based on league positions' which is what everyone's been saying since the SL suggestion. If it's a 100% principle of football then, then it still applies now - just a couple of months later. Denying teams entrance to a European competition because they're 'too good' is no more acceptable than denying a small team who finish top 4 entrance into the CL because they're 'not good enough'. The latter would cause uproar. So should the former.