[sillwuka]

Pre match nerves have kicked in, i haven't settled down yet.

Hope we can start off strong tonight, focus!

 

[Adcuth]

I'm with you here.

Woke up at 6am absolutely buzzing, am just coasting through work constantly looking at the clock...

Nerves kicking in already!

7 hours, no work or kids to occupy me today. I'm not coping well

 

[Red_Aaron]

Who would you start on the right wing?

Personally I'd start Greenwood but I don't think Ole will. I think rashford will be on the right to accommodate pogba on the left, I don't agree with it but think that's what we'll see

Harsh on Mason who's been in excellent form and links well with cavani but rashford along with Bruno and maguire starts every game for Ole if he's fit

A brave man drops one of McFred and plays Pogba in the middle but that won't happen either imo

 

[AaronRedDevil]

Seems like the whole gang is following Ole to Poland. Rooney, Rio, SAF, Gil etc. Going to be some mad party if United win. Kinda makes me happy seeing that.

 

[Withnail]

There was a stat posted yesterday that showed Rashford is more productive and has better numbers (and by a fair bit) when he's been played on the right this season. I had to take a double take of it because certainly doesn't seem like that, but apparently so.

Where were the stats from? Whoscored has his rating slightly lower and his goal contributions are slightly lower as well when he's on the right.

I've been saying this for a while though. He doesn't look as dangerous or as comfortable and can't go by a player as easily when he's on the right but his output doesn't drop that much. He still scores and assists quite regularly.

 

[Bullhitter]

Is this one for egoists? Or is that decided in hindsight?

 

[BFernandes]

Where were the stats from? Whoscored has his rating slightly lower and his goal contributions are slightly lower as well when he's on the right.

I've been saying this for a while though. He doesn't look as dangerous or as comfortable and can't go by a player as easily when he's on the right but his output doesn't drop that much. He still scores and assists quite regularly.

Edinson Cavani deserves to start the Europa League Final, but he shouldn't - Kwest Thoughts (substack.com)

Scroll down a little bit. Don't know how accurate those stats are, because like yourself I've always felt like his game drops significantly when he's on the right.

 

[Dave Smith]

I see an easy win. 3-0.

 

[Volumiza]

Really looking forward to this. Booked the afternoon off work and going to do feck all other than doss around in front of the tv for a few hours in preparation.

 

[Random Task]

Edinson Cavani deserves to start the Europa League Final, but he shouldn't - Kwest Thoughts (substack.com)

Scroll down a little bit. Don't know how accurate those stats are, because like yourself I've always felt like his game drops significantly when he's on the right.

I mean, Cavani is clearly our most reliable striker. He simply must start tonight.

 

[Random Task]

I see an easy win. 3-0.

I was thinking 4-0?

I'd take 3-0 though.

 

[RoyH1]

I was thinking 4-0?

I'd take 3-0 though.

I think Villareal scores a goal, but we win comfortably

 

[Gator Nate]

I'm feeling 4-1 now...

Really hope (beyond hope, but still) that Ole puts Pogba on the left, Greenwood on the right, and Rashford subs at the half.

 

[Chicharito_]

Just don't play Rashford on the right.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I was thinking 4-0?

I'd take 3-0 though.

No chance will an Emery side be that open in a final.

They're going to keep it tight and try to nick one, then defend until the end. We have to make sure we keep control and not get caught out.

 

[MadMike]

Everyone in here is way too confident given our recent form. The team that plays tonight got spanked by Liverpool and failed to beat a relegated Fulham at Old Trafford with fans. We're not in particularly good form going into this.

 

[MadMike]

Just don't play Rashford on the right.

Pretty obvious this will happen. Greenwood will be on the bench as an impact sub.

 

[AgentSmith]

There was a stat posted yesterday that showed Rashford is more productive and has better numbers (and by a fair bit) when he's been played on the right this season. I had to take a double take of it because certainly doesn't seem like that, but apparently so.

I had the same reaction when I saw those stats because they are counter-intuitive at first glance.

Transfermarkt have Rashford's contributions from RW as 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 games which is a better rate than his G/A ratios at LW or CF. It’s also the exact same stat @UNITED ACADEMY used in a different thread to tell me ‘there’s no difference’ between Rashford on the right or the left.

But the main thing I took from those numbers were that it just illustrates the issue with exclusively using stats as the basis for a footballing viewpoint, rather than looking at what’s happening on the pitch.

I think it’s abundantly clear at this point that Rashford, and the team, are much more comfortable and cohesive in terms of performance with him on the left. We look far better at present with Greenwood on the right IMO and the fact that Rashford has a higher G/A per 90 on the right doesn’t change that fact, it just clouds it.

(Not saying any of that to criticise you, rather just making a point about the issue with looking at stats in isolation)

 

[bosnian_red]

I had the same reaction when I saw those stats because they are counter-intuitive at first glance.

Transfermarkt have Rashford's contributions from RW as 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 games which is a better rate than his G/A ratios at LW or CF. It’s also the exact same stat @UNITED ACADEMY used in a different thread to tell me ‘there’s no difference’ between Rashford on the right or the left.

But the main thing I took from those numbers were that it just illustrates the issue with exclusively using stats as the basis for a footballing viewpoint, rather than looking at what’s happening on the pitch.

I think it’s abundantly clear at this point that Rashford, and the team, are much more comfortable and cohesive in terms of performance with him on the left. We look far better at present with Greenwood on the right IMO and the fact that Rashford has a higher G/A per 90 on the right doesn’t change that fact, it just clouds it.

(Not saying any of that to criticise you, rather just making a point about the issue with looking at stats in isolation)

Did the hat trick against Leipzig count as him playing on the right?

 

[Champ]

Everyone in here is way too confident given our recent form. The team that plays tonight got spanked by Liverpool and failed to beat a relegated Fulham at Old Trafford with fans. We're not in particularly good form going into this.

facing a team that have won just two of their last 5 in all competitions also.....

 

[theklr]

Are we thinking OGS is playing mind games with Maguire ? He seems to be on and off crutches and training..

 

[BFernandes]

I had the same reaction when I saw those stats because they are counter-intuitive at first glance.

Transfermarkt have Rashford's contributions from RW as 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 games which is a better rate than his G/A ratios at LW or CF. It’s also the exact same stat @UNITED ACADEMY used in a different thread to tell me ‘there’s no difference’ between Rashford on the right or the left.

But the main thing I took from those numbers were that it just illustrates the issue with exclusively using stats as the basis for a footballing viewpoint, rather than looking at what’s happening on the pitch.

I think it’s abundantly clear at this point that Rashford, and the team, are much more comfortable and cohesive in terms of performance with him on the left. We look far better at present with Greenwood on the right IMO and the fact that Rashford has a higher G/A per 90 on the right doesn’t change that fact, it just clouds it.

(Not saying any of that to criticise you, rather just making a point about the issue with looking at stats in isolation)

No I completely agree.

If it was my decision, Rashford would never play on the right again. Not only does his overall game suffer (despite what the stats say) by moving over to the right, we've also a better option there in Greenwood - who's build up play is massively under-rated.

This issue all stems from having to shoe-horn Pogba into the team and find a place for him. Personally, I'm of the opinion that you either find a system in midfield that he can play in, or you don't play him at all. Shunting him out to the left which then has a knock-on affect with other players having to play out of position, to accommodate the one - isn't doing us any favours.

 

[AgentSmith]

Did the hat trick against Leipzig count as him playing on the right?

Yeah, which is the exact issue with those stats. That wasn’t Rashford playing on the RW imo.

 

[Withnail]

Yeah, which is the exact issue with those stats. That wasn’t Rashford playing on the RW imo.

Didn't he just run straight through the middle for all of those goals?

 

[mitchmouse]

For me Cavani must start so I guess it's a choice of Greenwood or Rashord up there with him. I don't think Rashford has been anywhere close to fit for months so it's an easy one for me (not that I think that is what will happen). Part o me wants rashford not to be fit for the euros so he can have surgery and be that much further down the rehab road come pres-season training.

I'd prefer to see Henderson in goal (I think the defence looks calmer with him there) but again I'm pretty sure that won't happen. As for the CB pairing, I'd go with Axel simply because then we don't need two "changes" and Lindelof can play on his favoured side

 

[Champ]

Are we thinking OGS is playing mind games with Maguire ? He seems to be on and off crutches and training..

He is going to start!

 

[Champ]

7 hours, no work or kids to occupy me today. I'm not coping well

Under 6 hours now...

 

[AgentSmith]

Didn't he just run straight through the middle for all of those goals?

Two of them were basically from a CF position while one was a run through the middle of the defence starting in the right-hand channel. That would be the closest goal you could attribute to a RW position but even that would be pushing it.

Bottom line is stats are a useful tool when used correctly but can be wildly misleading when framed without the proper context imo.

With that in mind, this is the team I’d hope to see tonight;

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Tuanzebe Shaw
McTominay Fred
Greenwood Bruno Pogba
Cavani​

with Rashford off the bench into the LW slot and Pogba taking one of the CM spots if we need a goal. Hopefully we won’t!

 

[Alemar]

No chance will an Emery side be that open in a final.

We just need to score a goal first. And they will have to open up

 

[BFernandes]

I'll use my one remaining post of the day to quote the great man.

Sir Alex Ferguson - "Don't play the occasion, play the game."

Come on lads bring it home!

 

[Tincanalley]

It's going to be a nervy evening, that I can assure you. Squeaky bum, edge of seat, heart in mouth, fingers and legs crossed and then crossed again. This lot are going to play with passion and abandon. Keep it tidy for the first 20 minutes; attack them. Critical to avoid daft mistakes. Come on, United.

 

[justsomebloke]

Suffered a pang this morning when I opened the United app, got the message "Welcome back. It's match day" and realised that's the last time in a good while.

 

[AgentSmith]

Suffered a pang this morning when I opened the United app, got the message "Welcome back. It's match day" and realised that's the last time in a good while.

Having the Euros injected straight into our veins will help cure the withdrawal.

 

[justsomebloke]

Are we thinking OGS is playing mind games with Maguire ? He seems to be on and off crutches and training..

Yes we are. But I'm prepared to be disappointed.

 

[justsomebloke]

Having the Euros injected straight into our veins will help cure the withdrawal.

And thank god for that. Don't know how I'd cope otherwise, with not much else to look forward to in this still travel-free summer. It's just the right year for a good, long Euro tournament.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Two of them were basically from a CF position while one was a run through the middle of the defence starting in the right-hand channel. That would be the closest goal you could attribute to a RW position but even that would be pushing it.

Bottom line is stats are a useful tool when used correctly but can be wildly misleading when framed without the proper context imo.

With that in mind, this is the team I’d hope to see tonight;

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Tuanzebe Shaw
McTominay Fred
Greenwood Bruno Pogba
Cavani​

with Rashford off the bench into the LW slot and Pogba taking one of the CM spots if we need a goal. Hopefully we won’t!

This proves the agenda trying to twist everything to suit the argument. Rashford on the left also runs through the middle starting in the left channel. If he can do it the same way on the right then it shouldn’t be an issue. If only people understand how he operates on wide, you will understand there is not much difference in how Rashford scored those two goals from CF vs RB Leipzig with his other goals when he scored from right or left. Drift inside from wide running behind defenders.

 

[AgentSmith]

This proves the agenda trying to twist everything to suit the argument. Rashford on the left also runs through the middle starting in the left channel. If he can do it the same way on the right then it shouldn’t be an issue. If only people understand how he operates on wide, you will understand there is not much difference in how Rashford scored those two goals from CF vs RB Leipzig with his other goals when he scored from right or left. Drift inside from wide running behind defenders.

It’s an agenda to think Rashford plays better on the left than the right?

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

It’s an agenda to think Rashford plays better on the left than the right?

No. But it‘s an agenda to think of it as an issue. Let’s not changing it the fact you were against it because you think it’s an issue. If you can score goals or make assist and win a game then it shouldn’t be an issue right?

 

[Hoof the ball]

Hoping United can do me a huge favour tonight. Dad succumbed to cancer on Sunday morning, and dad would have been elated for Ole to get some silverware this season!

 

[RonaldoVII]

Hoping United can do me a huge favour tonight. Dad succumbed to cancer on Sunday morning, and dad would have been elated for Ole to get some silverware this season!

Sorry for your loss pal. Hopefully he'll be looking down and watching the lads with pride later.