Bizarre interview considering his performance on the night.
Rashford's post-match Interview
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That's exactly the point. When people make inferences like that, they're not discussing what's in front of us, but stuff that they are choosing to to read into it.
If he's as badly injured as you make out then why did he come on against Fulham when we were 1-0 up? If it's as bad as you claim then he shouldn't be going to the Euros, even Winter says "possible" surgery.
If the shoulder injury is affecting his legs that badly that he can't run then he shouldn't be anywhere near a football team and our medical staff and England's are incompetent, bordering on negligent.
I'm sure there's plenty of players playing through injury in the PL, the difference is most of them don't have a PR team.
If he is legitimately injured (like he has been for almost half the season) then he should be going to the surgery ward and not the Euros. Not to mention his form is in the toilet now.
England are really fecking well stocked for left sided forwards. Him playing in the Euros seems ridiculous. Him sitting on the bench at the Euros seems pointless.
Go get surgery. Didnt his brother (who is also his agent) say he needed surgery on Twitter a few months ago?
England are really fecking well stocked for left sided forwards. Him playing in the Euros seems ridiculous. Him sitting on the bench at the Euros seems pointless.
Go get surgery. Didnt his brother (who is also his agent) say he needed surgery on Twitter a few months ago?
He's had a back injury, foot injury and shoulder injury. We don't yet know the extent of all of them. The shoulder apparently needs surgery, not sure on the rest yet.
True. My biggest peeve on Ole is how he apparently has a huge blind spot for Rashford. He will do something great once or twice a game which reflects his decent output, but his overall play has been gash for ages now.
Its Rooney and LvG all over again
Literally no recollection.
The lad looked rattled in that interview. He knows how shite he’d been and we bottled that, lashing out with passionate rants in interviews don’t win football matches and trophies unfortunately.
Marcus' interview helped me understand, to some extent, why we were as bad as we were yesterday. Although that in itself was a bit worrying.
He was extremely emotional, his voice cracked and nearly broke several times. Going into a final that wound up is a big no-no. In any walk of life nobody is going to produce their best if they're that emotionally on edge. The coaching staff probably tried to take the tension down a few notches but, it was evident from Marcus after the game, they clearly failed.
You also could tell from what he said that the players are paying attention to the media. That's another big no-no. He was referencing headlines, defending Ole's record. On the one hand that's positive. The players like Ole, they want to continue with him and they want to change the narrative that he's not going to take the club forward. On the other hand the fact that they're so conscious of these headlines is a problem. You can't go into games like this worrying about what people will say after. You have to play without those kind of things weighing you down. The fact the players are aware of the 'blah, blah, blah,' to quote Rashford, and its one of the first things on his mind when the game ends is a bad thing. The players need to be able to block that stuff out and focus on the game.
Everything coming out of Marcus' mouth last night makes me think that, mentally, we're not where we need to be to compete. The best teams are powered by belief. In big moments they play as if they have ice in their veins. Our side plays with too much of a monkey on its back.
He was extremely emotional, his voice cracked and nearly broke several times. Going into a final that wound up is a big no-no. In any walk of life nobody is going to produce their best if they're that emotionally on edge. The coaching staff probably tried to take the tension down a few notches but, it was evident from Marcus after the game, they clearly failed.
You also could tell from what he said that the players are paying attention to the media. That's another big no-no. He was referencing headlines, defending Ole's record. On the one hand that's positive. The players like Ole, they want to continue with him and they want to change the narrative that he's not going to take the club forward. On the other hand the fact that they're so conscious of these headlines is a problem. You can't go into games like this worrying about what people will say after. You have to play without those kind of things weighing you down. The fact the players are aware of the 'blah, blah, blah,' to quote Rashford, and its one of the first things on his mind when the game ends is a bad thing. The players need to be able to block that stuff out and focus on the game.
Everything coming out of Marcus' mouth last night makes me think that, mentally, we're not where we need to be to compete. The best teams are powered by belief. In big moments they play as if they have ice in their veins. Our side plays with too much of a monkey on its back.
It didn't happen last night for Rashford for whatever reason but to those that say he didn't try: are you blind, or just stupid?
Didn't watch the post-match interview, but it won't change the fact that I'm slightly under-whelmed by his season overall on the pitch.
The stats are decent, but he doesn't affect the games the way I'd expect a player of his reputed quality to do so.
His sub appearance vs Leipzig is the benchmark in my mind, he came in and showed real intent to be a constant threat. Mostly though he does that in small bursts during a game, and that's not good enough to be an automatic starter for a top team.
The stats are decent, but he doesn't affect the games the way I'd expect a player of his reputed quality to do so.
His sub appearance vs Leipzig is the benchmark in my mind, he came in and showed real intent to be a constant threat. Mostly though he does that in small bursts during a game, and that's not good enough to be an automatic starter for a top team.
So you’re blaming him for playing instead of the manager for playing him injured all season. A top player is never going to come out and say ‘I don’t want to play’. It was obvious for everybody watching that he was knackered late in the game, and any fresh legs would have been better than an injured/tired player on the pitch.
Nothing wrong with Rashford here. He didn't have the best performance, fair enough. But, some of the comments here talking about his ability not being enough. Come one! He's still a top player, still needs to improve. Who doesn't at 23? I think he will improve, barring being overplayed and injuries. Especially, as he is an explosive player, we need to use players like that properly, otherwise, we could see him peak prematurely and go the way of Fernando Torres.
Doesn't seem Ole is very good at gauging if a player is overworked or injured. This could have a big impact on his long-term career.
Doesn't seem Ole is very good at gauging if a player is overworked or injured. This could have a big impact on his long-term career.
Imagine not seeing the connection.
Heart of gold off the pitch. Selfish, petulant and lazy on the pitch but all talk afterwards.
The problem is that on the pitch he acts like Ronaldo despite only having a fraction of his ability.
It's not the player's fault. All the blame has to go onto the manager. He picks the team, he makes the changes during the match. For whatever reason Rashford seems to be untouchable in Ole's eyes, even when it is clear as day he has been below par for a long time now. Greenwood is already better than him.
I never absolved the manager of blame. Your bold bit is a cliche, it's about listening to the capacity of your body and knowing when you need to rest and take on the surgery required recuperation to come back stronger. It's not an "I'm hard, I'll say I can play all the time" approach systematically across the board of top players.
Rashford says himself he's making sacrifices on his shoulder or his foot to play for the team, so he's basically saying he's not fit enough. And not long ago he was out in pressers when journalists asked whether he should rest or risk further damage (like Rooney), and he said "I know body". It's very easy to say things in hindsight after the game is lost to point to sacrifices made in playing through injury, but he knows his body best. If he knows he's not playing near full capacity when using a left wing spot (which he seemed to attribute to in a post match interview), he should really be honest with himself and the manager on the best possible outcome for the team.
Of course Ole is to blame too, he's to blame about a lot of yesterday. In my opinion the goalkeeping choice, the Rashford choice, the late subs. He didn't call on VDB to change the game, even though he bought him for 35million and nothing was really going our way. There's a lot in terms of what Ole fell on.
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Cliche or not, it’s pretty much how it happens in the real world. Most players want to play every game they can even if they’re carrying a knock. It could sound illogical but it is what it is.
No it's not. Often when players are injured and require surgery in one area of their body and have an injury in another part, they take the time out to recover. If it's close to season end then they may defer surgery for a short period but I can't think of an example where a player has had re-occurring foot injuries due to lack of rest, and a shoulder tear that's been deferred for 2/3rds of the season. That's not normal, and it's certainly not just "carrying a knock".
It sounds like you have underestimated the extent of Rashford's injuries if you are boiling it down to carrying a knock.
You know what, I give him a lot of stick and some of it I feel rightly deserved but that’s some interview and props to him. Only thing that could have made that better was if he addressed his own failings and what he himself has to do to get to another level.
Football might not have been his best over this last year but as a person and a man, he has really showed himself to be a proper inspiration. For the twats racially abusing him on line though, absolute clowns. For the life of me I can’t figure out why other than being knuckle dragging mouth breathers that struggle to spell their own name.
He is a fine player but it seems to me (from afar) that he is either injured or exhausted - probably both, mentally and physically. I believe it is the fault of the management not realising this, or perhaps we do not have the strength in depth to rest him. Bruno, too, looked knackered. We obviously need a bigger squad if we wish to compete. But to say he doesn't care is absolute bollocks. Unless a manager 'loses' the dressing room, all pro footballers care and will try for their own pride, if nothing else. Ole obviously doesn't trust his bench, and dare I say it, Tuanzebe should have played on the left of the defence.
It’s because we’ve hyped him up as being a top class player when that just simply isn’t the case. It’s the emperors new clothes. A big contract, modelling, passionate interviews, playing injured or charity work doesn’t make a top player. If it did he’d be the GOAT already. The same thing happened with Lingard and he clearly believed his own press and it eventually got on top of him until he was totally impotent. What happens when Rashford has the operation but keeps playing like this for the next few years? He’s at a major crossroads now. I hope he can see it. Get fit and work much harder or we can easily replace the ten league goals with someone who will.
The United marketing machine and English press have hyped Rashford up to death because he’s a stand out player in an unremarkable period for a massive club that needs to/does sell lots of shit for lack of a better word. He’s certainly never been consistent enough to be player of the year or anything like that. You’ll have had fans arguing right up to half time last night that he’s not a problem for us because of his numbers. It’s everyone else’s fault.
All season you can clearly see and hear him scowling at his teammates when they have the audacity to ask him to work or pass earlier or make a run and he continues walking around in his own world safe in the knowledge the manger is starting him in the next game either way. 1 goal in the league since January I think? If he didn’t have the EL goals and assists to stat pad he’d rightly have been called out a lot earlier. Great numbers for a “winger” but he’s never a winger. He’s the most advanced and static forward 90% of the time. He speaks like a leader in the press but a leader works off the ball for his teammates and selflessly creates for others. He does neither. I can’t wait for Sancho, a footballer with an actual football IQ to take his place and watch our other forwards come alive off him. And this kids is why we need competition in the squad.
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Dont care much about post match comments.
Run your guts on the field, press for every balls, fight for every 50/50 is all i ask in a final. If you do that and you fall short, you've given your all.
If you dont do just that at the very minimum, dont talk about hurt or any other crap.
If you're injured. Get it fixed. Playing with injury that prohibits you from playing at 100% is not bravery. It's stupidity and it actually weakens the team. Injury sucks. But it is what it is. Get it sorted.
Run your guts on the field, press for every balls, fight for every 50/50 is all i ask in a final. If you do that and you fall short, you've given your all.
If you dont do just that at the very minimum, dont talk about hurt or any other crap.
If you're injured. Get it fixed. Playing with injury that prohibits you from playing at 100% is not bravery. It's stupidity and it actually weakens the team. Injury sucks. But it is what it is. Get it sorted.
I have only now watched his interview and find nothing wrong with it.
It makes a change from the usual boring “I feel we played well but were unlucky” line most of the players say.
It makes a change from the usual boring “I feel we played well but were unlucky” line most of the players say.
Giles was saying he should just concentrate on his football and not the off the field charity work and i agree.
Isn't that the whole purpose of a discussion forum? And why should you be the judge of what's really happening in front of us when neither of us knows what's going on behind close doors? I mean body language has been used as an argument since forever since none of us got access to players inner thoughts and situation as the only time we get to see them in action is on the football field.
English is not my first language, carrying a knock and carrying an injury to me is the same thing. But it looks like it’s not, fair enough.
I disagree with you on the bold part and I will state again that often players want to play every game if they could, injured or not. It’s not normal but it is what it is. From years of interviews and reports that I’ve seen, many professional sportsmen state that they rarely play 100% free of any injury and that they deferred having surgery for years. Some out of sheer passion and others for fear of losing their spot.
In a team sport like football, it’s up to the manager to rotate and rest his players. Even a ‘lesser’ player can be more efficient than an injured one on the pitch. I wouldn’t imagine Rashford or Bruno telling their manager that they don’t want to play.
No problem on the wording thats fine.
I am not denying players never play through injury. I am saying Rashford's injuries are higher than just a general injury or a knock. He has needed surgery for many months now and keeps deferring it. That is not normal, for any player. Especially when you consider he has re-occurring foot injuries on top of the shoulder tear.
Its one thing playing through injuries at 60-70% but another thing playing below 50% level. The latter is not normal.
I guess he played against Fulham for match sharpness. Also this isn't a recent injury. He's been playing through it for most of the season.
Agree regarding Euros. He shouldn't be anywhere near them if he's needing surgery. I'm not sure what has happened there. Maybe he's been refusing surgery because it'll cost him a place at the Euros.
All gas. if you can't play your best then sit out
What happens if he gets the operation and the rest but he’s the same player and we’ve been missing something that doesn’t actually exist? That’s what I think is going to happen. He’s currently overrated to the point where people think he’s way ahead in his development of where he actually is. He could still be an actual top player year in year out but he’s some way off for the last year and a half and he’s also been well off it for long periods before he got injured too.
Hmm I don’t agree
We’re not good enough but it’s not like in previous years where I’ve thought we need about 7 top class players to challenge.
I think we need 3 players who’d walk into the first XI and we will be good enough. United can dominate games but just lack that bit of quality which turns games like last night into wins
Buzzwords.
Say as many buzzwords (desire, ability, talent) as you can, Marcus. That will gloss over your dire performances.
Say as many buzzwords (desire, ability, talent) as you can, Marcus. That will gloss over your dire performances.
I just find it very hard to believe what I read on here that the injuries are that bad that they are causing his poor performances and all of United's coaching and medical staff and England's have no problem with him going to the Euros.
He's a good player but it's not like he's a Harry Kane level miss for England and if his shoulder needs surgery then the club would be a lot more vocal about him not going.
Maybe harsh, but looking from the outside, it's true.
If this was Martial acting like this last night the Caf would be up in arms at his attitude and be demanding he be sold, but because it's Rashford people are twisting and turning trying to find any excuse for him.
Any niggle can impact performances. We know for a fact Rashford has been playing with niggles. The shoulder surgery will keep him out but being his shoulder wouldn't require him to stop playing beforehand.
You see him grimace often in games, particularly with his back throughout the season. They might be something that stays with him.
They aren't things that will stop him playing but they are certainly things that could impact performances as anything that is quite right can.
I don't blame him cause what else can he say but we have heard this from every United player for the last 3+ seasons.
Simply put the team are not Winners. The coaches are not winners.
How far away are we from being winners who knows but until we are it time to put up or shut up.
Simply put the team are not Winners. The coaches are not winners.
How far away are we from being winners who knows but until we are it time to put up or shut up.
If he really does need surgery then he should have it as soon as possible, even if he misses the Euros. Surely he owes more to United than England?
That's a different argument all together. The point I'm making is he's rightfully upset after the interview but he shares blame in poor performances and failing to listen to his body. He said many times "I know my body" when he was questioned by journalists as to whether its sustainable to put off shoulder tears and ankle issues for many months on end. He evaluated his body wrongly, and it was at detriment to the team. His general performances have been off the boil for a while and Ole should have known better too.
I liked it when he dismissed the "Will you be OK for England" question. Really irritating when the media do that.