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Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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roonster09

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Would be extremely unlikely indeed. If we did, that could even mean that we don't have much left for another player.
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Exactly. I think people confuse installments, upfront fee, addons, fixed fee very easily.
 

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The way Arsenal structured the Pepe deal was very different to this though. We’re paying 73m up front, they paid 12m up front. Still an obscene price for a fairly ordinary player though.
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That’s mad. He did look exciting in France but nothing exceptional like Hazard or even Dembele when he was at Rennes.
 
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I can't wait until the media report the €90m as £90m. And others that include the full salary so they can really exaggerate.

But I'm not praising the board, Ed, Judge, etc. for negotiating a great deal. He wants to come to United or others would be in the mix, or Dortmund could hold out for more/refuse to sell. Can't credit the board and them for that.

Yes, it's 30m less than a year ago, but what did we miss out on by not getting him then, considering how close we came in so many competitions? Not to mention if we bought him last year, we could spend more focus on other areas this summer.
 
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I can’t get my head round folk coming out of the wood work to nay-say and belittle the guy before he’s even through the door. Yep, Utd are signing him so he must be crap. Welcome home Jadon!
Whatever happened to being excited about a new signing, welcoming the lad and getting behind him? Goodness me, any excuse to be miserable!
 

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RedDevilzFox said:
I would never pay that much for Sancho but if they have decided, not sure what are they haggling over 5m euro for.
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If someone was buying one of our players for 5m would you say we should just give them away for free instead?
 

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MiamiSpartan said:
Yes, it's 30m less than a year ago, but what did we miss out on by not getting him then, considering how close we came in so many competitions? Not to mention if we bought him last year, we could spend more focus on other areas this summer.
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Have you any comprehension of how corporate finance works ? At all ?
 

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What number is he wearing for United...?

Not many options there...I'd reckon Fred to take number 16?

let him have 17 and then take that 7, Sancho lad.
 

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There’s no supposedly about it, he’s great on either side.
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In the Bundasliga. He's a superb talent but I'm not holding any expectations in the Premier League. That way I don't get burnt :lol:
 

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FootyGirl88 said:
You don't sound sure :lol:
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There was a good post on this and his general play bookmarked.

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I gotta be honest here, every time this left/right wing argument comes up I question if people actually watch Dortmund play or just look at the position on the spread sheet

For over a decade now and under multiple coaches (be it Klopp, Tuchel, Favre or Terzic) one trademark for Dortmunds attack was always fluid positions in the final third. The offensive midfielders, especially the wide players are not supposed to hold their flanks the whole time (that is largely the job of the full/wingbacks) but are supposed to roam and interchange frequently. Nowhere can this be seen as clearly as when Sancho and Reus share the pitch. They cross each other frequently, creating overlap on a side to shift attention of the opposing defenders and open spaces that way. They also don´t have a side they favour here to lessen predictability which leads to a very balanced offensive approach. Over the last season they build up the exact same percentages of attacking plays over both sides (38%), which is actually rather uncommon as teams usually prefer one side over the other (United for example builds up more over the left side). Sancho plays the side where he can have the most impact depending on the situation.

As for this whole argument about Sancho only being truly effective on the counter and being predicted to struggle against deep defenses. This might come as news to people who still equate Dortmund to the pressing and transition machine it was under Klopp, but they have not been a primarily counter based team for a long time now. Sure, they are able to punish harshly on the break due to the pace the attack has and enough players who are capable to play accurate long passes, but this is still not their dominant way to score goals. They averaged 60 % possession last season (level with Leipzig and behind Bayern in that regard in the league) and played the highest number of passes in the Bundesliga with around 620 per game (that is nearly 50 more than United averaged last season). These are not statistics for a counter team, but a team that is tasked in the majority of the games to be the active creator of the play and break open defenses.

Jadon Sancho has been extremely valuable in that regard. He is a creative player with good (but not outstanding) acceleration, exceptional close control, skilled in 1v1 and has a very good eye for opened passing and running paths. Another often overlooked part of his ability to create space is his very smart off the ball movement which has improved greatly in his time with Dortmund (I believe that he learned a lot in that regard from Reus, who is a master in that). He often makes (or fakes) runs that demand the attention of defenders which open options for his teammates, the largest benefector of this being Haaland who directly moves in that space to create danger.

In short, Sanchos entire skill set is made for breaking up defensive lines.
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FootyGirl88 said:
Apparently his best position is on the left, How will he solve our RW issue?
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Very comfortable on both sides. I don't think we are necessarily after a RW either. Our front line is very fluid and Sancho fits that bill.
 

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Leftback99 said:
If someone was buying one of our players for 5m would you say we should just give them away for free instead?
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What a ridiculous analogy. On a separate note, we get our pants taken down all the time.

Back to the topic, my point being, we know Dortmund won't accept any less, they have already proven that. If we are going to overpay like crazy, 5m doesn't seem like enough to haggle over and potentially drag this on any longer than it needs to be when Sancho could be figuring out the logistics of the move and getting settled as soon as possible.
 
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