Suppose that depends on what "good enough" means.
I wonder when the last time a goalkeeper at De Gea/Henderson level or below won the league? How good does your goalkeeper have to be at that level?
No.1 for next season - De Gea or Henderson?
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Suppose that depends on what "good enough" means.
I wonder when the last time a goalkeeper at De Gea/Henderson level or below won the league? How good does your goalkeeper have to be at that level?
Everyone should blame him. Any other half decent professional club would have gotten rid of him long ago, not rewarded him by making him the highest paid player in EPL. This is plain robbery to be honest. 18 m an year for howlers after howlers.
Look at Chelsea, they did not think twice before benching the highest transfer in their history. Did not think twice before sacking arguably their greatest ever player because it was not working out with him as manager.
The way United works, it makes soviet era bureaucracy look professional.
We've done that the last three seasons. Maybe harsh on the first one as we had no idea De Gea was about to decline so much, but that's the way it turned out. If Henderson is our #1 it may be a fourth season in a row, or he might take the step up. Unless we have the money available to go for a sure-thing top keeper on top of everything else we need, it's the best option.
I don't know. I'm partial to Dave, but I cannot deny that he's declined considerably and he doesn't really suit the playing out from the back style of play or playing with a high line where he needs to come off his line quite a bit. Henderson is a lot more commanding and mobile off his line, taking risks when he needs to (and probably when he doesn't). But he's not tall, not physical, and nor is he super athletic like Dave used to be. I suspect he'll be given the #1 spot for the start of the season, but I'm not expecting him to become as good as he intends to be.
If we were to sign a new keeper, now or next summer, I'd want a keeper who commands his area with the physicality to do so. But he'll also need to be good with his feet and composed under pressure.
Not really thinking about winning the league, just thinking about what makes the team more balanced and effective.
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Yeah, I don't know who is out there that fits the criteria, and as you mention, we've got a host of issues to address. But Henderson would actually fetch a decent fee I'd assume, and if someone takes de Gea for a fee that effectively goes back into subsidising half his wages, we'd both have cleared up money from the wage bill and pocketed a fee for Henderson, so theoretically, it's plausible.
When Barca were linked to Donnarumma I was a bit surprised as ter Stegen is excellent. But they quickly moved to quell those rumours. Oblak is not really that sweeper keeper either and he certainly won't come cheap.
How good is Onana? His suspension got cut down to 9 months.
It appears PSG are getting Donnarumma now and my only hope for De Gea moving away has gone.
We're heading into the season with two goalkeepers that are potentially not good enough for us and earns a combined wage of half a million pound a week - this is nearly as insane as offering Phil Jones a contract extension!
We're heading into the season with two goalkeepers that are potentially not good enough for us and earns a combined wage of half a million pound a week - this is nearly as insane as offering Phil Jones a contract extension!
It’s all just a very expensive game of trial and error isn’t it?
So Henderson won this poll, does that mean we're mostly happy for De Gea to leave now we have 4 GK's?
I understand that Henderson will start next season as our number one keeper, with £375k a week De Gea as back up.
Sell De Gea , useless if a penalty shootout goes round to the goalies.
Not sure if I’m really sold on either of them at this moment in time to be honest.
Keep De Gea as #1 for another 2 seasons while his contract runs out, possibly even use the extension if he picks up a bit more form.
If Henderson is willing send him out on loan again, possibly abroad. If not sell him, put in a buyback if possible as insurance.
But aim to find the next Donnarumma-like talent that appears before De Gea's contract runs out, to come in as backup to De Gea or then Henderson while the youngster develops.
Henderson is the only of the two who can be shifted at the moment, and De Gea still has enough skill and popularity in the dressing room that it isn't worth to pay out his contract like we did with Sanchez.
If Henderson is willing send him out on loan again, possibly abroad. If not sell him, put in a buyback if possible as insurance.
But aim to find the next Donnarumma-like talent that appears before De Gea's contract runs out, to come in as backup to De Gea or then Henderson while the youngster develops.
Henderson is the only of the two who can be shifted at the moment, and De Gea still has enough skill and popularity in the dressing room that it isn't worth to pay out his contract like we did with Sanchez.
We should have sold both and got Donnarumma 
Isnt henderson injured? Will he be fit for start of season. De gea for me all the way as no1
You want us to find the next Donnarumma after we have let the original Donnarumma come to PSG for free without putting up a fight?
Sell Henderson but include a buy back ? I am not sure if Ole regards Henderson higher than DDG and besides DDG is impossible to move on. The above seems to be the only solution or maintaining the status quo which is quite expensive.
i really like de gea but his time is over and henderson is good enough imo to establish himself as our no1 for the next decade. its time to get de gea of the wage bill. on a side note - we would have won the pen shootout with henderson in goal. that was too much a gamble of ole.
We'll have to hope one of the Italian clubs buys him - or maybe on a 1 year loan with an obligation to buy?
Yes, cause we have De Gea and Henderson on our books right now. And we have other areas more pressing to fix right now than the keeper.
(Also we have no idea if we did inquire with Donnarumma or not.)
If we had gotten Donnarumma now and managed to sell Henderson at the same time, we would still have the "problem" of De Gea and his contract.
Our current options are good enough for the time being for another 2-4 seasons while we fix other areas (or longer if Hendo kicks it up another few gears, but I don't think he will).
He will either have to take a pay cut or we contribute to his salary like Sanchez's loan deal.
I'd be surprised if we keep both this season given we have signed Tom Heaton and extended Lee Grant's contract.
I think you're right, to be honest.
I'd go with Hendo as our no.1 and DDG as backup. If the latter still has any ambition left he'd take a paycut elsewhere, otherwise he'd struggle even being Spain's backup at this point.
Sounds like De Gea could start as number 1 given it sounds like Henderson won't be fit.
This seriously not getting sorted then? Barely any noise at all about De Gea leaving as most expected.
A ruthless Sir Alex would have sold both and brought Donnarumma in.
Are they not his biggest fan?
Based on his interview with ESPN, looks like he expects them to fight it out and this season will determine who will be No1. Not ideal at all, and may be some roller-coaster performances over the season in between the sticks.
That's what I was advocating for (even though it would have meant giving Raiola a €15m bung).
I don't think either of them are good enough (assuming our aspirations are more than just top 4 and last 16 of the CL every season).
De Gea will never be injured at the start of the season.
De Gea all day long. Hate Hendo's shitty cap and crap looking gloves.
Poor decision to go into the new season without this sorted to be honest.
I really hope I’m wrong, but I’ve got a weird feeling that Henderson isn’t going to be available for much of this season
I think De Gea will start 30+ Premier league games
I think De Gea will start 30+ Premier league games
I think De Gea should be #1. Don't know why but I don't feel that Henderson was that convincing last year.
I voted Henderson last season.
With the arrival of Varane, however, I’m very interested to see de Gea. If Maguire and Varane are able to compensate David’s major weakness (physical/aerial presence + distribution) and De Gea resurrects his mid-2010s shot stopping prowess, who knows. De Gea is similar to Casilias in his goalkeeping style.
Also, have to admit, I didn’t see anything outstanding in Henderson. He is a good keeper, but not Man Utd No.1 class.
With the arrival of Varane, however, I’m very interested to see de Gea. If Maguire and Varane are able to compensate David’s major weakness (physical/aerial presence + distribution) and De Gea resurrects his mid-2010s shot stopping prowess, who knows. De Gea is similar to Casilias in his goalkeeping style.
Also, have to admit, I didn’t see anything outstanding in Henderson. He is a good keeper, but not Man Utd No.1 class.
I voted someone else. They're both still a weak link that we should get away with most weeks. Maybe transfer market will be better next season and we can move both on for Oblak or something.
Clearly DeGea had the advantage now with Henderson unlikely to be fit to start the season.
I 100% agree with this and would even go as far as selling Henderson this summer. I wasn’t convinced by Henderson last year, even if he is better at dealing with set pieces. De Gea is our number one.
Why all the confusion????
It is obvious that Dean De Gea has to be number one!
It is obvious that Dean De Gea has to be number one!