Rice's being fried by the danes
Declan Rice
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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This England's midfield is non-existent.
It's interesting England is playing similar setup to United (progressing mostly through the wings, midfield responsible for defensive screening and only basic playmaking).
Meaning whatever issues we see here with Rice, we would see the same for the club.
Meaning whatever issues we see here with Rice, we would see the same for the club.
I literally have no idea why people drool over this kid. Might as well just throw any old CB in at DM.
Bit harsh but he’s so limited, this midfield has zero presence.
Bit harsh but he’s so limited, this midfield has zero presence.
Really hope we don't sign this kid! He isnt terrible but he is totally underwhelming.
A nothing player.
He’s a centre back playing in midfield. Nowhere near enough to his game.
I mean, he's not even that good a DM, is he?
He has been great covering for Maguire on occasion.
Posters here genuinely think he's good on the ball. 
England looking miles better now Philips has gone deepest and is actually trying to playmake.
Maguire doesnt need cover, he never gives the ball away on his runs. He successfully does it with us and we dont have a DM to our name.
People want us to spend £60m on him?
Even McTominay offers more than him and he shouldn't be starting for us. At least he was free.
Even McTominay offers more than him and he shouldn't be starting for us. At least he was free.
He is sooooooo average. No thanks
The English Fred...I actually think Fred is better.
I used to love rice, now I'll have to switch to wheat.
He's nothing like Fred. Fred to his credit never shies away from the ball and actually tries to progress the ball forward. Just his decision making lets him down occasionally.
He's twice the player Rice is.
It's seems like people want to celebrate Rice's mediocrity. Apparently, not being capable or willing to add layers to his game is a good thing.
I've seen all of England's games. Not once have I given him a thought or recognized that he is on the pitch. Really underwhelming and uninspired player.
He's just shit on the ball. Always wants to pass it backwards. Scared of turning with it. Doesn't want to commit an attacker before playing it.
Genuinely, no exaggeration, I believe Fred is better and would offer England as an example a massive improvement on Rice, player for player.
Fred progressed the ball well when he’s in form and is every bit as good defensively.
Offers less than McT or Fred. A rubbish Gareth Barry.
He’s been poor tonight for sure
He was good in the last game.
He was invisible against our Matic midfield x 2 last season
I really can’t make my mind up on him. He needs to do a lot more
He was good in the last game.
He was invisible against our Matic midfield x 2 last season
I really can’t make my mind up on him. He needs to do a lot more
There was one occasion where Rice saved his ass with such authority it was great to see.
They wouldn't compete for the same spot. Fred would play ahead of Rice, like Tielemans and Ndidi. It would work better than McTominay and Fred. Slightly better. Not worth it.
He can't. He just doesn't have that much ability to work with.
Not seen enough from him to justify his price tag. Too much of a gamble. He might well become top class in the next few years but I don’t think we can afford to take the chance on him this summer.
Nowhere near good enough
We need a different profile of midfielder either way
We need a different profile of midfielder either way
I admit he was off in the first half but he was good after that.
Thought he was better than against Ukraine but thats not saying a lot. The weaknesses are plain enough to see, think its a terrible partnership as much as anything with Phillips and either would probably look better with Henderson. I think if he ever winds up getting games for a top 4 team it'll be as a cb. It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Veratti and co.
Not great, but nowhere near as bad as Phillips who was truly abysmal
what? He was terrible throughout, before he got brought off he was told to feck off forwards and let Philips actually play some ball. That’s how crap he was.
Got brought off and Henderson was absolutely miles better.
glad people are finally catching on.
throwing a few tackles around doesn’t cover being absolutely woeful on the ball.
There was a period in the 23rd minute (@GifLord do your thing) where instead of turning and taking the ball forward, he just passed it straight back to Maguire.
All night he played 5 yard crab passes and completely killed any momentum.
This is the type of team and performance he will be expected to play against regularly if playing for United, and in both games against stiff opposition (scotland and denmark) he’s completely failed.
throwing a few tackles around doesn’t cover being absolutely woeful on the ball.
There was a period in the 23rd minute (@GifLord do your thing) where instead of turning and taking the ball forward, he just passed it straight back to Maguire.
All night he played 5 yard crab passes and completely killed any momentum.
This is the type of team and performance he will be expected to play against regularly if playing for United, and in both games against stiff opposition (scotland and denmark) he’s completely failed.
I’ve said it all season, what we saw tonight is all I’ve ever seen for him in the PL.
He didn't have his best game tonight, that's for sure.
Commentator in Finland´s national tv told something like "his only job on the pitch is to take care that other players can shine". It tells quite much about Rice. Typical £30M player who would cost double, or more.
Henderson is superior to him in every way.
This was against the Danes as well, wait until the Italian midfield are hounding him. Showed what he is tonight - basically a 3rd CB in midfield. Tactically that can work superbly, but for me we don't have the players to warrant signing him at all.
He was not great tonight, him and Phillips were getting steamrollered by the Danes. Southgate has a lot of work to do before we face that Italian midfield.
If he starts the final, the Irish and Jocks will be a lot happier than they are tonight. Lad got embarrassed tonight so feck knows what Italy would do to him 
Only hope is that stubborn Southgate sees how much more Henderson offered. Even then, it’s an average midfield in comparison to Italy but still, much better.
Only hope is that stubborn Southgate sees how much more Henderson offered. Even then, it’s an average midfield in comparison to Italy but still, much better.
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