Rafael and Anderson were just so fecking likeable. I still smile when I think about them.
Yeah I’d definitely think he regretted it but as both @sullydnl and @Tom Van Persie confirmed, Moyes definitely wasn’t 1st (nor 2nd - 4th at the very least! ) choice. That much we do know.Not sure what to make of this. I’ve read so many contradicting stories on Moyes. All I can say is, I think Fergie has regretted the decision as time has gone by.
Even when he got fat he was still a better passer than Fred and McTominay.So his inability to pass extended to fast food restaurants in addition to the ball.
And that’s the real quiz…Even when he got fat he was still a better passer than Fred and McTominay.
Yes I think these played a big part, the first injury before he even arrived and then the second oe....added of coruse to the fact he ,aybe didn thave the appetite (ironic) to really work his body to recover properly from them.Andos eating didn't help but the leg break and the acl at United probably held him back more. I don't think Rooney ate well for an athlete but luckily for him he didn't have potential career ending injuries. But then again you have Shaw who has had 2 big injuries and then got himself together.
Every time it seemed like was pushing on, he’d get injuredYes I think these played a big part, the first injury before he even arrived and then the second oe....added of coruse to the fact he ,aybe didn thave the appetite (ironic) to really work his body to recover properly from them.
We never saw Gremio or Porto Anderson here and lookign back it is a mircale he alsted for eight seasons. I have to say I absolutely lvoed him the first coupel fo seasons though, if he could have just took games by the scruff of the nexk with progression he would have been a fantastic player even though a changed one from his early career
Sir Alex was the main man for 27 years and controlled everything. No one coming in could retain that level of control. The players weren’t going to respect him as much as they did with the previous manager. On top of a very poorly assembled squad which Sir Alex managed to get the best out of but wasn’t in great shape, regardless of the league position the year before. Once Van Persie got injured the rest of the squad was exposed, conceding lots of goals.How so?
Strange comment. His passing was fine. Couldn't shoot to save his life though.So his inability to pass extended to fast food restaurants in addition to the ball.
His passing most definitely was not fine. He passed with such power, players had troubles controlling the ball when it came from him. And his passing percentage was the worst it of all our midfielders.Strange comment. His passing was fine. Couldn't shoot to save his life though.
Fergies level of control isn't a criteria for success.Sir Alex was the main man for 27 years and controlled everything. No one coming in could retain that level of control. The players weren’t going to respect him as much as they did with the previous manager. On top of a very poorly assembled squad which Sir Alex managed to get the best out of but wasn’t in great shape, regardless of the league position the year before. Once Van Persie got injured the rest of the squad was exposed, conceding lots of goals.
Harsh.His passing most definitely was not fine. He passed with such power, players had troubles controlling the ball when it came from him. And his passing percentage was the worst it of all our midfielders.
I don't think there was anything Moyes could've done to overcome the fact that he'd won feck all as a player and manager and was walking into a dressing room of perennial winners. Maybe if he'd had a Pep level talent. But even then on he just had nothing to point to for respectIt's all about Moyes! He was a fool when he arrived. Swinging his big glaswiegan beller around . Should have befriended the players before twisting their mellons.
Yep. Said as much back then, to a lot of pushback...His biggest mistake was sacking the staff.
That doesn't mean nobody could have succeeded. I think Ole had he come in then would have the respect of the squad at least as a fellow United player who knew the standards and as a former coach to a lot of them. Maybe they wouldn't have won the league but I have no doubt we'd have finished top 4 that year. We weren't even that bad in the first half of the season, Moyes grossly mismanaged the squad around Christmas overplaying Rio and Vidic and over time his tactical cowardice and small time mentality caught up with him. Ole would absolutely not have dithered on Thiago and have absolutely not bought Fellaini. That alone would have been a net positive in comparison to Moyes.Sir Alex was the main man for 27 years and controlled everything. No one coming in could retain that level of control. The players weren’t going to respect him as much as they did with the previous manager. On top of a very poorly assembled squad which Sir Alex managed to get the best out of but wasn’t in great shape, regardless of the league position the year before. Once Van Persie got injured the rest of the squad was exposed, conceding lots of goals.
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8 or so years since Moyes and it's still one of those decisions you can't genuinely believe.Tweet
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Do you remember him saying something about how the real test would be Moyes winning 3 titles in a rowNot sure what to make of this. I’ve read so many contradicting stories on Moyes. All I can say is, I think Fergie has regretted the decision as time has gone by.
Yep, that Vardy cheating was infuriating.Loved Rafael, and i still feel rage that that cheating scrote Vardy effectively ended his career with us. Still, glad that he had a good career with us and afterwards.
Moyes would never have worked. Humility is something he obviously doesn't possess even now. The players must have been laughing at him when he turned up trying to tell them what's what.
It was sad times on the cafe, as grown United fans tried to put a brave face on it and insist he "could" be a great appointment.Moyes should never have been allowed anywhere near Old Trafford except as an opposing manager. He was neither a top class manager, nor a young manager chosen for his potential. He was an established, bland, known quantity in the league.
A manager like that has no place at a top club, and I can never fault the players for not trusting him. A manager like that needs to come in from day one and show what he's going to bring to the club. Moyes showed up and brought videos of Jagielka along with Felliani.
He had an uneven/poor season under Moyes. I remember a pattern in which he would start at RB with Valencia at RM, then at 0-0 or 0-1, 70 mins in, he'd get subbed off for Nani or Januzaj, putting Valencia at RB, and many times that just meant getting defensively worse rather than better going forward.What happened to Rafael? Injuries?
Seems a shame he is playing for a mid table Turkish side having only just turned 31, I always remember him being decent.
Very true, and he smashed that penalty against Chelsea to to help us win - perfect. Anderson was a lovely player to have, give or take some fitness issues and consistency problems. He bossed games against the best players every now again, far ahead of Fred et al.Four English titles and a CL. Anderson’s CV is nothing to laugh at.
He had the tools to be a baller but appetite and injuries are a disastrous combination. Ask Real Madrid about Eden Hazard.
I would have accepted him. Heck, I wanted Ole half-way through Moyes tenure.I actually don’t think that would have worked either. The fans wouldn’t have accepted Ole at that point.
SAF tried Ancoletti, Klopp and also met Pep in new york restaurent but he alrady given a word to city by that timeI had always thought SAF actively wanted Moyes as his successor.
Still cracks me up. "Show me biquine" or something like thatBiquine
I think a certain degree of pandering was needed for a squad which had achieved so much for so long, he needed to get them on side first and foremost.Ive been thinking about this a lot. I think a lot of Moyes’ problem is that no matter what he did the players wouldn’t respect him. He could have done the exact same processes that Ferguson did without any of the same results because of the lack of reputation. It’s why it is so important that a manager has the backing of the match day fans.