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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
Wtf is this about
 

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Kane is a couple years older than Grealish - both phenomenal talents in their respective positions. I don't think there's a big difference
You’re joking right? He’s only 2 years older, Kane had achieved far in excess anything Grealish has at the same age anyway. There’s a huge difference, the only way it gets closer is because it’s clearer Kane is more eager to leave.

With regards to the thread in general on Kane’s behaviour, although I can understand him being upset if there was an agreement surely there’s a better way to go about it. How much do Spurs have to pay him if he doesn’t hand in a transfer request? You’d think that would be his first point of action
 

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Forget ‘the media’, this place would be arranging a vigil outside his house.

Kane is out of order. If there was a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ he has every right to feel aggrieved but he has a contract.

People were saying the moment he signed that ridiculously long deal this could happen, Levy isn’t springing any surprises here.
 

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Making unreasonable demands for a player who's been there for years and friendly told them he wants to leave because it's about his last chance to win something meaningful. I mean, about 160 mil. (pounds) in covid times, c'mon man.
Arsenal just paid £50 mil for Ben White, Villa just received an offer of £100 mil for Grealish, what do you think is a "reasonable demand" for Harry Kane?
 

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Making unreasonable demands for a player who's been there for years and friendly told them he wants to leave because it's about his last chance to win something meaningful. I mean, about 160 mil. (pounds) in covid times, c'mon man.
He signed a 6 year contract, he's seen 3 of those years, what has Covid times got to do with City? They have flouted FFP for years and as a United fan you seem content they can continue to do the same. I feel if it was Pogba with 3 years left on his contract and City offering a low par offer the cut of your jib would be distinctly different. So far Spurs have only received an apparent bid of £100M? i have no problem with Kane wanting to leave but i see no reason at all why we should bend over, self lube and let City have a free pop. Again if it was your club Id say you would feel differently. As for Spurs ruining football, fecking hell.

Unreasonable demands is expecting an employee to turn up for work?
 

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Kane needs to make a statement about a "gentleman's agreement" otherwise he seems like an unprofessional whiner.
He's never seemed the type (Unprofessional whiner) which is what makes me believe he thought he had an agreement in place. He was stupid not to formalise it, for sure, but I do think that a lot of people are being pretty harsh on him. I also think that if it was us trying to sign him there'd be talk of 'disgusting they're holding him against his will' etc.
 

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He's never seemed the type (Unprofessional whiner) which is what makes me believe he thought he had an agreement in place. He was stupid not to formalise it, for sure, but I do think that a lot of people are being pretty harsh on him. I also think that if it was us trying to sign him there'd be talk of 'disgusting they're holding him against his will' etc.
Are you aware of his "its my goal" incident? How anyone can believe Levy of all people told Kane he could leave freely with no objections is beyond me.
 

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Best case scenario here is that City have the funds for only one of Kane or Grealish.

They were about to sign on the line for Grealish, but now Kane has had a hissy fit to try and get a deal done before that happens.

Now they hesitate to see can a Kane deal get done. The sudden pause shows Grealish that City don't love him as much as Villa do, so he signs the big deal on the table to stay where he is.

Levy sticks to his guns and City end up with neither.
 

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Kane needs to make a statement about a "gentleman's agreement" otherwise he seems like an unprofessional whiner.
If he wont his brother certainly will, Modric talked opening about his agreement, its basically "if we get an acceptable offer, from a club we deem correct, you can go", while upset at the time Modric states he had a good relationship with Levy and understood his position.... in hindsight. I am pretty sure he has said he regrets the way his time at Spurs ended. If you seen the Amazon documentary Eriksen is told the exact same thing.
 
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Best case scenario here is that City have the funds for only one of Kane or Grealish.

They were about to sign on the line for Grealish, but now Kane has had a hissy fit to try and get a deal done before that happens.

Now they hesitate to see can a Kane deal get done. The sudden pause shows Grealish that City don't love him as much as Villa do, so he signs the big deal on the table to stay where he is.

Levy sticks to his guns and City end up with neither.
Surprisingly Grealish seems to be the much more professional of the two, turns up for training keeps his head down. You need to remember here if Kane goes to City and stays fit he is guaranteed at least 25 goals a season his age or sell on vaule is irrelevant IMO, he has 3-4 years at his level especially given the service he will get at City.
 

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Are you aware of his "its my goal" incident? How anyone can believe Levy of all people told Kane he could leave freely with no objections is beyond me.
Yep, but that's hardly on a par with downing tools, is it? As far as I'm aware, he's been the mod professional to date. I don't think anyone believes Levy told Kane he could leave freely, with no objections, but I do believe he led Kane to believe that he would be reasonable and wouldn't stand in his way. Do you think no such discussions took place?
 

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Surprisingly Grealish seems to be the much more professional of the two, turns up for training keeps his head down.
He is and has been. But I suspect if City start making him feel second fiddle to Kane, that offer of big money to stay where he is adored will look more and more attractive.
 

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We will disagree, I don't think Grealish has done anything to suggest he is a phenomenal talent.
You’re joking right? He’s only 2 years older, Kane had achieved far in excess anything Grealish has at the same age anyway. There’s a huge difference, the only way it gets closer is because it’s clearer Kane is more eager to leave.

With regards to the thread in general on Kane’s behaviour, although I can understand him being upset if there was an agreement surely there’s a better way to go about it. How much do Spurs have to pay him if he doesn’t hand in a transfer request? You’d think that would be his first point of action
You're both probably right. Kane is more than Grealish for sure come to think of it. I definitely retract that
 

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Surprisingly Grealish seems to be the much more professional of the two, turns up for training keeps his head down.
Is this a joke? After the alleged drink driving and crashing incident, the nitrous oxide, the passed out drunk pics? Something tells me that you'd have laughed pretty loudly at that claim if it were made before this recent incident...
 

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Yep, but that's hardly on a par with downing tools, is it? As far as I'm aware, he's been the mod professional to date. I don't think anyone believes Levy told Kane he could leave freely, with no objections, but I do believe he led Kane to believe that he would be reasonable and wouldn't stand in his way. Do you think no such discussions took place?
I do think it took place, but the debate is, is £100M a reasonable offer for Kane? I don't think we will get or should be asking £180M but for me £100M is a low ball offer considering what they are getting. Again there has been no real solid story of a real offer, I think City are basically telling Kane to kick up a fuss, and to me that's wrong.
 

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Arsenal just paid £50 mil for Ben White, Villa just received an offer of £100 mil for Grealish, what do you think is a "reasonable demand" for Harry Kane?
Is the quoted money for Ben White without the usual performance incentives? Personally me thinks Grealish is happy either way: I haven't come across an interview where he made a statement like Kane did with Neville.

If a player who has won nothing, didn't cost a thing, wants out the clubs should find a way. I stand by what i said about that £160 mil., it's way too much money. There's never been a player in the league who cost above £100 mil.

Ben White is 23 years of age, Grealish is 25, but Kane is 28. The situations differ from player to player and aren't comparable. £100 mil. max, could be less, IMO.

He signed a 6 year contract, he's seen 3 of those years, what has Covid times got to do with City? They have flouted FFP for years and as a United fan you seem content they can continue to do the same. I feel if it was Pogba with 3 years left on his contract and City offering a low par offer the cut of your jib would be distinctly different. So far Spurs have only received an apparent bid of £100M? i have no problem with Kane wanting to leave but i see no reason at all why we should bend over, self lube and let City have a free pop. Again if it was your club Id say you would feel differently.
For now, City's most expensive player is about £55 mil. (KdB). I don't care for City but i do find it odd that a player, who's been doing the business for years, could be priced out by making unreasonable demands. Sorry, £160 mil. is not fair at all. If you're unhappy with your working environment, you should be allowed to switch teams. Sure, certain standards have to be met but not £160 mil.

Pogba hasn't done the business despite United investing a lot more than hundred million pounds in him. His agent and his family been talking shit about the club and team for ages. I'm sorry but the situations are different.
 

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Is this a joke? After the alleged drink driving and crashing incident, the nitrous oxide, the passed out drunk pics? Something tells me that you'd have laughed pretty loudly at that claim if it were made before this recent incident...
I meant as a footballer, hes clearly been a bit of a prat in his private life.
 

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Is the quoted money for Ben White without the usual performance incentives? Personally me thinks Grealish is happy either way: I haven't come across an interview where he made a statement like Kane did with Neville.

If a player who has won nothing, didn't cost a thing, wants out the clubs should find a way. I stand by what i said about that £160 mil., it's way too much money. There's never been a player in the league who cost above £100 mil.

Ben White is 23 years of age, Grealish is 25, but Kane is 28. The situations differ from player to player and aren't comparable. £100 mil. max, could be less, IMO.


For now, City's most expensive player is about £55 mil. (KdB). I don't care for City but i do find it odd that a player, who's been doing the business for years, could be priced out by making unreasonable demands. Sorry, £160 mil. is not fair at all. If you're unhappy with your working environment, you should be allowed to switch teams. Sure, certain standards have to be met but not £160 mil.

Pogba hasn't done the business despite United investing a lot more than hundred million pounds in him. His agent and his family been talking shit about the club and team for ages. I'm sorry but the situations are different.
He isn't down the mines mate. You cant have it both ways, under contract and your performances turn sour you still get paid, under contract and your performing and you want to leave. Being on a short term contract is all well and good untill you have a career ending injury or your performance levels dip. Do you think cause Jones has been injury riddled United should have a right to terminate his contract?
 

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I do think it took place, but the debate is, is £100M a reasonable offer for Kane? I don't think we will get or should be asking £180M but for me £100M is a low ball offer considering what they are getting. Again there has been no real solid story of a real offer, I think City are basically telling Kane to kick up a fuss, and to me that's wrong.
Yeah, can't argue with anything here tbh. I think it's a shame for you lot that the market at the moment is what it is. Any other year (except last year!) you'd definitely be talking 150 mill or so for him.
 

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Think he finally understands how hard and rare it is to make major cup finals for club and country, then fall short. So he's allowing himself to get into a better opportunity. Don't blame him one bit. He desperately wants to win now at any cost.

The links and rumors to City have unsettled Spurs. Levy isn't stubborn enough to alienate club and country captain by not speaking to him about any offers or the such. If there was some type of gentleman's agreement, then obviously something hasn't been completely seen through. 100M quid for Kane is not enough, considering he's their best player, club captain, and in the middle of a long term contract. Plus City are in need of a clear CF/striker.

Even when Lukaku was leaving, he at least stuck around and claimed an injury and didn't really train much.
 

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Kane is a couple years older than Grealish - both phenomenal talents in their respective positions. I don't think there's a big difference
Kane is a proven goal scoring/assist machine in his prime. Don't think they should be costing the same, as of now.
 

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What has that to do with anything? People are allowed to be making lots of money and still switch jobs because of unhappiness and not being priced out of a move.
Ok so smaller than Elite clubs should simply have no protection from the Elite teams, is that really what you want football to be? If City/Munich/Chelsea came tomorrow for Bruno, Bruno says he wants to leave, you would have no problem allowing him to do so as he "is unhappy in his working environment"?
 

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It will be funny if City buy Grealish because I can’t see them having the left over leeway to buy Kane unless it’s due to some creative financing like a year loan then 100 mil or 50 mil now and rest in payments which I really can’t see Leavey going for.

Just seems like Kane picked the wrong year to kick up a fuss as there isn’t as many options as he probably thought there would be.
 

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Is the quoted money for Ben White without the usual performance incentives? Personally me thinks Grealish is happy either way: I haven't come across an interview where he made a statement like Kane did with Neville.

If a player who has won nothing, didn't cost a thing, wants out the clubs should find a way. I stand by what i said about that £160 mil., it's way too much money. There's never been a player in the league who cost above £100 mil.

Ben White is 23 years of age, Grealish is 25, but Kane is 28. The situations differ from player to player and aren't comparable. £100 mil. max, could be less, IMO.


For now, City's most expensive player is about £55 mil. (KdB). I don't care for City but i do find it odd that a player, who's been doing the business for years, could be priced out by making unreasonable demands. Sorry, £160 mil. is not fair at all. If you're unhappy with your working environment, you should be allowed to switch teams. Sure, certain standards have to be met but not £160 mil.

Pogba hasn't done the business despite United investing a lot more than hundred million pounds in him. His agent and his family been talking shit about the club and team for ages. I'm sorry but the situations are different.
I agree £160 mil is probably too much but £120-130 I could agree with, the fact you think less than £100 mil is crazy to me. It’s a tricky one when City are reportedly making offers of £100 mil for Grealish I can see why Levy would want a lot more. We’re talking about the England captain and talisman and selling to a league rival, he’d also be almost impossible to replace and has a long contract. Add in he’s usually one of the top scorers in the league if not the top scorer and you can easily see why he’s worth so much more than Grealish. Also Grealish is due to turn 26 soon and Kane only just turned 28 so the age argument makes no sense really.
 

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As England and club captain, as there being one that refused train with his team,
 

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No sympathy for Kane.

You signed that contract in the 1st place.
Yeah well not incorrect there and I’d add that him believing that he and Levy had a thing where the latter was simply going to let him go with his blessing.

What a shower of a club
 

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I think even in a covid year Kane is worth more than 100m. Anything below 120m i'd consider robbery and be a bit gutted we didn't get him for that price. Anything over 150m is probably high.
 

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Best case scenario here is that City have the funds for only one of Kane or Grealish.

They were about to sign on the line for Grealish, but now Kane has had a hissy fit to try and get a deal done before that happens.

Now they hesitate to see can a Kane deal get done. The sudden pause shows Grealish that City don't love him as much as Villa do, so he signs the big deal on the table to stay where he is.

Levy sticks to his guns and City end up with neither.
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Levy is probably going to demand £200m and they will meet somewhere in the middle, between £130m and £150m. City can try and play the long game here as they have no competition.
 

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Thankfully clubs and professionals don't act like this.
If the club hounds its best player, no one will want to join them.
Nah, loads of players would still join Spurs just like plenty of clubs will still want Kane.

Harry's a professional and England captain. He's acting like a spoilt child who didn't get an ice cream. How many other "professionals" have we seen do similar over the years. Who could forget that poor slave Ronaldo, how he was whipped and forced to play football for Man Utd for loads of money every week. I often wonder if he ever recovered from that ordeal.

The poor baby signed a contract and now he thinks he shouldn't have to stick to it. Spurs could be professional here, sue him for breach of contract and then let him rot in the reserves until that contract is up. He should also be stripped of the England captaincy.
 

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What has that to do with anything? People are allowed to be making lots of money and still switch jobs because of unhappiness and not being priced out of a move.
He can switch a job if City pay what Spurs demand for him.

Or he could train with the reserves for 3 years and then leave on a free.

Why are the rules suddenly different for Harry Kane?
 

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Correct me if I 'm wrong but didn't Van Dijk do exactly the same thing to force through his move to Liverpool
 

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BTW, Inter rejected EUR 100m + Alonso from Chelsea for Romelu Lukaku. I reckon, Harry Kane is worth about 140m GBP.
 
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