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Nah I'm just joking based on their history in recent years. They'll be up for it this year I'm sure :)
Oh haha yeah, sucks he went to PSG of all teams but if they don’t at least get to the CL final the internet will have a field day
 

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Can you point out how PSG is affording all this? Hold on...

Do you realise the corporate financial year ends on june 30th? It's pretty likely Mbappé will be sold by then. Or Icardi. Or a bunch of other players.

Also, a lot of sport business consultants were heard on french radios for a couple of days, backing my claim that Messi would generate a significant part of his salary in new income, if not more. Apparently PSG started to work on new partnerships in case of a Messi transfer since last year when he wanted to leave Barcelona.
 

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Do you realise the corporate financial year ends on june 30th? It's pretty likely Mbappé will be sold by then. Or Icardi. Or a bunch of other players.

Also, a lot of sport business consultants were heard on french radios for a couple of days, backing my claim that Messi would generate a significant part of his salary in new income, if not more. Apparently PSG started to work on new partnerships in case of a Messi transfer since last year when he wanted to leave Barcelona.
You think you’re going to sell Mbappe?
 

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You think you’re going to sell Mbappe?
I don't want to but we've been trying to extend his contract for 2 years and so far he doesn't want to. I think he might be sold at the end of this summer or he'll sign a new short term contract and will be sold in a year, i don't think he'll stay longer than that.

And still, Neymar extend his contract, meaning that the small amortization left on his transfer his spread over 4 more years. The same will happen with Mbappé regardless of what happen (either amortization spread or sold) meaning that from an accounting point of you, it's almost 80M saved per year just because of these contracts reaching their terms.
 

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I don't want to but we've been trying to extend his contract for 2 years and so far he doesn't want to. I think he might be sold at the end of this summer or he'll sign a new short term contract and will be sold in a year, i don't think he'll stay longer than that.

And still, Neymar extend his contract, meaning that the small amortization left on his transfer his spread over 4 more years. The same will happen with Mbappé regardless of what happen (either amortization spread or sold) meaning that from an accounting point of you, it's almost 80M saved per year just because of these contracts reaching their terms.
You’re losing him on a free mate.
 

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Do you realise the corporate financial year ends on june 30th? It's pretty likely Mbappé will be sold by then. Or Icardi. Or a bunch of other players.

Also, a lot of sport business consultants were heard on french radios for a couple of days, backing my claim that Messi would generate a significant part of his salary in new income, if not more. Apparently PSG started to work on new partnerships in case of a Messi transfer since last year when he wanted to leave Barcelona.
people actually believe that
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You’re losing him on a free mate.
That was a lot of text for saying he's leaving on a free, agreed.
That's not the opinion of most consultants in France but hey, the caf might know better!


people actually believe that
:lol:
I don't "believe" anything, I have no figures to back that up so I listen and read people who work in this field. I actually think that most posters here don't realize what Messi means for the world outside of england. When Messi was on his plane, 115 000 personns where following his flight on flightradar, which is pretty ridiculous but shows the attraction.
I also don't think they realize how good Jean-Claude Blanc is at looking for new income sources. Having Messi in your team allows you to reach deals that were inaccessible, especially in Asia. Even if it's for 2 years who cares. On top of that, the Accor deal expires in 2022 and Messi will still be in the team at this point so we'll have the opportunity to re-negociate.
 

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That's not the opinion of most consultants in France but hey, the caf might know better!
I‘ve bookmarked your post, I’ll bump it when he signs a contract with Madrid in January.
 

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I might be bitter but is it me or does that team look comically unbalanced? That front four doesn't look like it'll track back and work hard defensively, leaving a lot of the legwork to the double pivot of Veratti and Wijnaldum which I'm not entirely convinced will work.

Sure it looks great on FIFA, but in the real world I can see them getting caught out against high tempo sides in the Champions league.
Di Maria won’t be a starter anymore but a supersub. Paredes will likely play with Verratti and Wijnaldum as PSG plays 433.
 

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Do you realise the corporate financial year ends on june 30th? It's pretty likely Mbappé will be sold by then. Or Icardi. Or a bunch of other players.

Also, a lot of sport business consultants were heard on french radios for a couple of days, backing my claim that Messi would generate a significant part of his salary in new income, if not more. Apparently PSG started to work on new partnerships in case of a Messi transfer since last year when he wanted to leave Barcelona.
PSG has taken on massive wages within a 3 month window even before Messi. In addition to the wages paid, they paid signing on fees, agent fees, etc. That's on top of 9-figure revenue losses. Where exactly is this money coming from...that's been the biggest question all along. Still have had to pay the massive amortized fees for Neymar and Mbappe during Covid, which is incremental to their 200M revenue loss.

Messi can bring in new commercial revenue, sure. But again, brands have already eaten into their current annual budget. Current budgets are set in the previous year. You don't sign off on sponsorship 8 months into the year for it to only be activated if/when a player becomes available. There is no current commercial revenue that can immediately offset this sudden spike of increased spending. Brands are going to have to reallocate their planned budget for next year, right now, if they think having a commercial deal with PSG and Messi is worth it.
 

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And he or she thinks the buying club would pay all that transfer fee up front, all at once, in cash, to offset Messi....not an amortized fee structure like the vast majority of mega transfers.
From memory you can write the income as a gain in a single fiscal year, you do not have to use the installment sales method.
 

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From memory you can write the income as a gain in a single fiscal year, you do not have to use the installment sales method.
Correct, it's however they choose to label it as. FFP didn't care how it was recorded on the books. There's never one way to do it and it's up to the club/business to figure that out.
 

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My concern is not the quality or depth of the squad, but more Pochettino...
Poch will be tested not from a tactical POV, but moreso squad harmony, balance, and egos. PSG should be able to come together and maybe lose 3 domestic league matches all season. They have way too much talent and key players not to have issues breaking down teams. Just be interesting if they go 3 at the back or 2...or Marquinhos steps up into midfield full time with Kimpembe and Ramos behind him.

If PSG have any weaknesses or vulnerabilities, it'll come down to injuries and club drama. Only way PSG lose matches or lose their way is if they just beat themselves.
 

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PSG don't need to have Messi play all games. They can rotate at ease. He's 34

It's mostly that Messi will be an undisputed starter for the biggest games and the team will have to shape around him.

I think as long as they keep winning the sheer momentum will carry them through. If they hit a rough patch and such, they could crumble.
 

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He has signed for PSG purely to win the UCL.

If he wins it, people will say that, like in 2009, 2011 and 2015, he was surrounded by some of the very best (Neymar, Mbappe, Verrati, Ramos, etc). If he doesn't win it, it will hurt his European legacy a lot more than even the ugly UCL failures of 2018-2020.

Bad move in any event, but the money is always good. Always.

I laugh at the people who thought he would sign for Rosario or City. He's not a romantic, and he knows he can't play in England, not at 34.
 

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A thoroughly boring episode and not one I’m particularly interested in following. I’m sure he’ll score plenty.
 

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PSG don't need to have Messi play all games. They can rotate at ease. He's 34

It's mostly that Messi will be an undisputed starter for the biggest games and the team will have to shape around him.

I think as long as they keep winning the sheer momentum will carry them through. If they hit a rough patch and such, they could crumble.
But Messi has bonuses to reach and you know PSG has to meet these visibility and impressions and media value thresholds now that Messi is there. For the most part, he's been fit and going to a slower league than La Liga should only help him staying on the pitch. Good thing people will be able to tune into beIN Sports to watch PSG and Messi. And by the way, beIN Sports is owned and operated by Nasser Al-Khelaifi .... also chairman of Qatar Sports Investment, who happens to oversee PSG as club president. And Qatar Sports Investment is a subsidiary of Qatar Investment Authority (QIA), the state-run sovereign-wealth fund in Qatar.
 

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No way it’d ruin his legacy (unless he fails spectacularly which, let’s be honest, it’s pretty close to impossible), but from a neutral’s point of view there were certainly more interesting options.

Still, money, friends, good city & climate, you can understand why he goes there. PSG’s team looks simply insane on paper & that front three is actually not that far of MSN (again, on paper).
 

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Wow hold my hands up I really didn't think this would happen
 

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Lots of complaints over him going to PSG. Who else was in the market for him? Spurs apparently made an offer, but why on earth would he want to go there? Other than PSG, what were his other options.... Inter Miami? The only place he could move to really. Quit whining.
 

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Grim viewing, Barcelona fecked up so hard with this one.
Did they? That contract he signed in 2017 was meant to explode sooner than later. The Covid crisis was just the spark. Messi became a brand a long time ago. I'm amazed he stayed at FCB that long (probably because his wife and family wanted to stay for personal/social reasons). Barcelona was also ruined in 2003 and then in 2010 but Messi wasn't earning that much then, not even half of his current megastar salary.
 

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He has signed for PSG purely to win the UCL.

If he wins it, people will say that, like in 2009, 2011 and 2015, he was surrounded by some of the very best (Neymar, Mbappe, Verrati, Ramos, etc). If he doesn't win it, it will hurt his European legacy a lot more than even the ugly UCL failures of 2018-2020.

Bad move in any event, but the money is always good. Always.

I laugh at the people who thought he would sign for Rosario or City. He's not a romantic, and he knows he can't play in England, not at 34.
He can certainly play in England, but his age means that he would have to be used more sparingly. Maybe like Bergkamp in the early to mid-2000s. Or like Cristiano Ronaldo under Zidane.


It's just confirmed how much I fecking hate the guy. Hope its a disaster for him.
I love football too much, I want Messi to always stun me with amazing games, he's a privilege to watch! I don't think that going to PSG necessarily makes a played be a cnut. It's not like all City players are cnuts, for example. In a football prospect, it's hard to not be excited to see how this attack of Messi, Neymar and Mbappé will unfold.