It actually does.
I say disband the club after Ole. There is no life after Ole. For some he is the only plan.Chelsea under Lampard and Tuchel are worlds apart. Yet another example of what a high quality manager can do. But nah, let's sit around challenging for top 4 for another 5 years. Because stability, tradition, gets the club and Sir Alex protege.
How can Ronaldo show Ole was naive about tactics?
We'll see if he can be title contender this season.
It's already worked. They won the biggest prize in club football. Brilliant decision by Chelsea.
Firstly, all the managers following SAF have the luxury of managing a giant of club football which those before did not. The great man pretty much created an empire which allows his successors to spend money like it grows on trees.
Tuchel took over an expensive squad which spent a lot that summer.
He still improved the team and no one had Chelsea winning the CL even with Tuchel.
United are one of the biggest club in the world with the budget reflecting that what Solskjaer is doing is bare minimum nothing extraordinary about it , just because managers prior to him did average to poor job doesn't mean he has been great for United he is in his fourth season with United and team still plays like bunch of strangers put together with no cohesion and lacking in basics.
True and our squad made out of scraps.
But the biggest improvement was in their defense and midfield which he did with existing players. That's down to his coaching. Same players were grossly underperforming under Lampard no?
Of course there is now a lot of revisionism regarding Chelsea. Prior to Tuchel everyone here felt that their squad had severe weaknesses and new signings were a bunch of duds. Now that Tuchel has won the CL, their squad is incredible, favourites to win the league, we need so and so to catch up etc
Absolutely. Their defence was wank under Lampard and midfield lacked control. Now their defence is impeccable and they recycle possesion superbly. Not signed anyone in those two areas. Quality management.
I don't think their squad is that good either.
I am sick of the squad excuse. Our squad is as good as any in PL, I don't even think City's is better. But this excuse refuses to die. Now everyone is fixated over a DM, as if that will suddenly cover for Ole and propel us to the league title. Nonsense.
Lampard was completely lost and Tuchel put the team back at what made them successful under Conte...a back 3. Chelsea were weighted down by Lampard by a wide margin...Lampard's Chelsea were so lost and unorganized. He deserved the sack.
Planet Earth?
City have two first XI that could win the league in their own right. On what planet is their squad not better than ours?
United's current squad cannot go 3 in the central midfield. People think that McTominay or Fred can be the lone holding mid with a Pogba and Bruno ahead play as two 8s....it's not going to happen. McTominay's strengths are then minimized as the lone 6. He doesn't have the on ball technical ability or passing range.
Chelsea don't have any significant weakness. City don't have a CF, but Pep managed to get a lot of results and performances last year without one. Liverpool don't have much depth, but their starting XI is very good.
This. With a proper manager, this team will be competing and winning trophies.
I mean, definitely wasn't a typical game. We aren't free flowing sure but we tend to control games and do enough to deserve wins and have a decent xG differential per game (just not title winning level). We got dominated here though on pretty much every level.
Just out of curiosity, who is the Tunchel equivalent in our case? In other words, who do you replace Ole with if you sack him?
Lampard was a complete dog for Chelsea like Arteta has been for Arsenal. Tuchel was strong enough and wise enough to go back to a back 3 and institute a closing down and pressing system all over. Chelsea had issues scoring but kept themselves very solid at the back and midfield. Under Lampard, you'd see Kante the furthest forward and one central mid totally fecked once the transition started. Lampard was an utter disaster.
I have seen this type of perform too often from Manchester United in the last few years. If we don’t improve, you can quote me that many false dawns will continue and we will struggle to find consistency at the top level. Our defense may be solid and because of the quality in our team, all we need is just one opportunity to score, but it is hard to imagine such a performance will see us win the champions league unless we are very lucky.
And I have also seen United performed in big games under Ole.
Yep, always a great sign when people don't rate the manager.
We have done that numerous times. We were even known last season for many of our comeback victories where we started of really poor, then turned things around. Even Gary Neville claimed that we were reliant of individual talent last season, so there were many instances where we played poor and got 3 point and I see that continuing this season unless we see drastic tactical change or perhaps, Ronaldo give the team an impetus to improve our build up and overall performance. With all the quality we have in our team, we don’t look like we knowhow to play football.7 out of 9 points now isn't actually a false dawn isn't it?
the Leeds game made me think we did, but it seems it was another false dawn.
Not sure what you are on about, but after the Leeds game our performances has dropped significantly if you aren’t blinded by red tinted specs.
Also not to add - the Leeds game is absolutely the kind of game where we perform. Those open games I am not at all worried about. We have some ridiculously talented players who when given space will dominate. Where we are shite is when we are pressed, when we are asked to pass and move, to create passing lanes, to press ourselves, to build up play so our forwards are isolated with defenders to get the most out of their game.
I wouldn't sack him now and I don't know. A lot of the good candidates are at top clubs already or at our rivals.
