Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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OGS has no clue what he is doing.There are a lot of manegers which would break the league with our squad.
 

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He's a transitional manager imo. Done good at stabilising and all but now we need a proper coach.
 

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Him, Carrick and McKenna, honestly, between the three of them they really haven’t got a fecking clue at the top level.

How did they manage to come to the decision at half time to sub van de beek, empty our midfield and play with a back five?
Someone please help me understand the rationale behind those moves.
 

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I genuinely laughed :)

But the overreactions are incoming, its actually a bit like natural phenomena, like when the turtles come out of the ocean all together in one glorious night...you know it is happening, but its still fascinating to see.

About the match:
We lost it due to individual mistake. We struggled because we went to defensive which made Young Boys way stronger. After the red card, I don't think, it is a huge mistake to close up shop away from home, but you have to remain dangerous on the counter, taking Bruno away and getting rid of a striker wasn't good. Heck a counter match would have suited us even more than the game we had to play in the first 30min...
 

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I really don't understand why did we give up the midfield? They are the Swiss champions FFS, not really creme de la creme of European football, coached by a failed Huddersfield manager. One of the worst ever tactical performances I have seen.
 

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Cowardly and negative. Sense and lack of sense in his subs. He has weaknesses in his tactical approach, and they tend to haunt us consistently.

Felt like I was watching a match under Jose again.
 

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WHAT THE feck DOES THIS MEAN!? I can’t believe Ole didn’t foresee Lingard doing that. He brought him in for his energy and pressing. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why Lingard may be more use when you have 10 men and are struggling to get the ball back than a 36 year old ffs. This defeat is on two people who had total muppet moments.
So now we're also not blaming the manager when his own tactical subs miserably flop and lose us the game.

Great. You guys are starting to reach another level of absolving him of blame.
 

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Win this and then you could chill through the group but now every game is going to feel like a knockout. He has done nothing in Europe to make me believe that we can beat Atlanta and Villarreal . I will actually be surprised if we make it now
 

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Did you see Chelsea play with 10 against Pool at Anfield? Compare that performance to what we showed against fkng Young Boys. If you still say they are the same performances and Ole did as well as Tuchel, then there's no point talking about it with you.
Did you see Liverpool perform against 10 men Chelsea? Created nothing. Young boys put them to shame tonight. Klopp out.
 

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What did he rotate? Lindelof for Varane? Hardly the cause of a problem. The problem was a brain dead red card and last minute pass, but also 0 game plan for playing with 10 men.
That performance showed as if we never practice playing 10 vs 11 in training. Those are drills which all managers deploy during training to allow the team to get used to such situations. However for some reason it felt like it came as a shock to everyone on the pitch.
 

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The worrying part is we might waste the squad. It's ready to win now.

But yes, Ole will always be a 'nearly man'. That performance today was inexecusable.

Our ball recycling is just too poor too often for a top side.
This team is ready to win, the manager is not a winner and neither is he stackable or will he do enough to be sacked due to the quality at is disposal. It's purgatory.
I think the people calling for is head are wasting their time.
 

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We have a great team now, Ole has to bring that out on the pitch. Was never going to be easy playing with 10 men but I felt that Ole's odd setup and subs didn't help at all,.
 

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As expected, this place is a hell scape. People patting themselves on the back over a United loss.
 

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I genuinely laughed :)

But the overreactions are incoming, its actually a bit like natural phenomena, like when the turtles come out of the ocean all together in one glorious night...you know it is happening, but its still fascinating to see.

About the match:
We lost it due to individual mistake. We struggled because we went to defensive which made Young Boys way stronger. After the red card, I don't think, it is a huge mistake to close up shop away from home, but you have to remain dangerous on the counter, taking Bruno away and getting rid of a striker wasn't good. Heck a counter match would have suited us even more than the game we had to play in the first 30min...
So Ole was partially to blame for that performance and result? The red card is ofcourse not his fault but his in-game management has been questioned for years.
 

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Got it totally wrong tonight. Those subs were a disgrace. Fred and Pogba should have been hooked before anyone else.

How many more chances is he going to give Martial and Lingard to disappoint?
Martial barely played. He is a poor tactician, if you dont accept that by now then I am sorry.
3 years on, we still dont have an identity.
 

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You realize Lingard was his own fecking sub, right ? Ole was the one who put him in the game instead of Cristiano fecking Ronaldo.
...better save Ronaldo for West Ham.

They say Lingard can run all day, that's the idea. You don't want your 36 year old talisman to do that.
 

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Our football has been poor for a long time. Even before the red, we did not really look dangerous. Then Ole makes so many mistakes, wrong tactics, bringing the wrong players on. Not even for their abilities, but he brings on Martial on who's rather lazy whilst we need players who make up for AWB
 

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I said it before and I'll say it once again - we're never gonna win anything with him. Tactically clueless, his decisions are baffling, ideologically an underdog manager, his subs... well, you know them well. AWB laid the coffin, but Ole was the one who buried us. Again and again and again. Absolute legend as a player, but was never fit to be our manager.

This game was the perfect example of his management. Players can't pass, have a hard time defending the ball, when we go back players just hop it forward with long balls like we're Stoke or something, he still picks his favorites (WHY TAKE DONNY OFF? Fred was a calamity the entire game. Why play AWB when Dalot, albeit not a better option, was preferred here? Why the feck does he persist with Lingard? Where was Mason... Jesus I don't even want to go on with the amount of things he fecked up today). And you know what's my biggest gripe? We still have no identity. We still have no style of play. If City and Liverpool lost a man here, they'd still have battered them. We made them look like Pep's Barcelona. Why? Why are we so shit at everything despite the quality of the side? We always have to rely on individual brilliance like Bruno's pass in order to do anything of note. Do we press, do we play tiki taka, are we the brilliant counter-press team of Sir Alex in 07-10? What are we? I see nothing. In attack we are toothless, in defense we are a calamity... It's just terrible all around.

He needs to go. Get Zidane in before he goes back to Madrid. I'm sure he'll love it here given the amount of backing and hands-off approach from the management. Otherwise we're fecked with this experiment.

I genuinely laughed :)

But the overreactions are incoming, its actually a bit like natural phenomena, like when the turtles come out of the ocean all together in one glorious night...you know it is happening, but its still fascinating to see.

About the match:
We lost it due to individual mistake. We struggled because we went to defensive which made Young Boys way stronger. After the red card, I don't think, it is a huge mistake to close up shop away from home, but you have to remain dangerous on the counter, taking Bruno away and getting rid of a striker wasn't good. Heck a counter match would have suited us even more than the game we had to play in the first 30min...
Answer me this. Do you think if Liverpool or City came here, they would have cowered like us and made Young Boys look like prime Barcelona? No, they would have enforced their style, 10 men or not. That's the simple difference between a manager like Ole and managers like Pep and Klopp. fecking hell, Chelsea didn't look any worse when they played with 10 man against Liverpool. I mean - that's disgusting, no matter how you look at it. And it's all down to Ole.
 

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WHAT THE feck DOES THIS MEAN!? I can’t believe Ole didn’t foresee Lingard doing that. He brought him in for his energy and pressing. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why Lingard may be more use when you have 10 men and are struggling to get the ball back than a 36 year old ffs. This defeat is on two people who had total muppet moments.
That’s not how football works at the elite level. There’s typically one small thing that separates teams who are just ‘there about’, and teams who actually go on to win things. You know that too.

Or were the other 6 of our 11 CL losses all muppet moments too?
 

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We better win 4-5 to 0 in our next game and move away from this result. Our CL record is very worrying, but it's still too early to judge the group stage.
 

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If we can't get through this group he needs to go. 3 years in charge and we looked clueless. We have some top players in their prime and they will be wasted while we wait for a guy who is nearly 50 to come good.
5 games to go, let’s judge at the end of the group
 

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You know what. Today is the day I flipped to the dark side (or saw the light if you will). I'm done. We need a new manager.
 

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Did you watch the game? We could easily have lost 1-4, and that is absolutely on Ole. Being completely dominated by minnows with a squad like ours, 10 men or not. We looked clueless even before the red card.
We were controlling the game before the red card, why chat shit?
 
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