On top of everything else our fullbacks are brain dead. Defending like idiots, both of them. Shaw constantly going to the middle, leaving the flank exposed. AWB is now jogging back, he can’t make a decent sprint. Slow and stupid - both of them. Sick of the sight of those two.
PL D FA Premier League
Manchester United 1:1 Everton
Post-match discussion
Sat, 02 October 2021
How many transfer windows does he need?
We've been shocking from our own corners for a while, we foolishly play them wrong too much. We really shouldn't be expecting tiny Fred to sort that out but it was poor from him again also. We just don't help ourselves througout the team to not be exposed with the ball in, where they go and the positioning.
We also looked immediately very weak with Cavani off.
Some on here were saying how good it was it bring on early subs but it was too early and in past times too late. Bringing on new players such as Sancho and Ronaldo at 56 mins while just 1-0 from a rare Martial goal was silly. I would've had just Sancho for the injured Martial and kept it going, give it time to settle. 56 mins is too early for that much disruption.
Ultimately I think we've been let down by the midfielders that's McTom, Fred and Pogba who came on. They need Cavani to help out but it's down to the manager to get the midfielders in or at worst not weaken yourself at 56 mins in. Another shambles of game management and poor coaching for corners.
We also looked immediately very weak with Cavani off.
Some on here were saying how good it was it bring on early subs but it was too early and in past times too late. Bringing on new players such as Sancho and Ronaldo at 56 mins while just 1-0 from a rare Martial goal was silly. I would've had just Sancho for the injured Martial and kept it going, give it time to settle. 56 mins is too early for that much disruption.
Ultimately I think we've been let down by the midfielders that's McTom, Fred and Pogba who came on. They need Cavani to help out but it's down to the manager to get the midfielders in or at worst not weaken yourself at 56 mins in. Another shambles of game management and poor coaching for corners.
Good vibes FC is in for a reality check. This week, we've dropped 4 points at home to Villa and Everton. Our next games are Leicester away, Liverpool and Spurs. We look totally un-coached but what's the point in changing managers again while we are run by inept fools?
It was always zero because we didn't buy a top DM. That would have given us an outside chance. To have a good chance you need to play high press.
If we're being honest, Ole picks teams and makes subs as though he's playing Football Manager
Problem is does he have anybody else bar Declan Rice in mind for the midfield. He ain't getting him in January.
We started well which surprised me but definitely tailed off in the second half which is so bloody frustrating. Gutting to see a team of so much attacking talent dropping too many silly points already.
Embarrassing to think my Everton mates are messaging me disappointed to have not won today after that, despite them missing three key players.
We are currently no better than last season and if anything look more fragile. Any one with a brain cell pulls Gray’s shirt back on the halfway line, takes the yellow and gets back in position. Idiotic.
We only deseved a point and if Davies wasn’t so poor towards the end, were lucky to get a point!
We are currently no better than last season and if anything look more fragile. Any one with a brain cell pulls Gray’s shirt back on the halfway line, takes the yellow and gets back in position. Idiotic.
We only deseved a point and if Davies wasn’t so poor towards the end, were lucky to get a point!
Sit back, let us have the ball, we make a mistake, counter and score. We are so badly coached, it’s ridiculous. Same issues, same players, never addressed. All this is on Ole. He has no excuses.
De Gea didn't even try on that shot. I genuinely believe defense is more stable with Henderson, as proven last season. Also how can we not score with these players? A lot of possession but no plan. We need a capable manager, this squad should challenge for the title, with the right manager they can.
Even if we had got a class DM we weren't winning the League.
We're winning nothing with Ole.
It was always zero because we have Ole as a manager...
Very disappointing again, we just don't look like a team who play together very much, Everton looked a decent team, we still look like 11 individuals.
De Gea made a good save, but didn't have a lot to do, AWB still frustrates me, he shows fantastic skills on occasion, then does something stupid. Shaw was good going forward again, but occasionally goes missing, Varane and Lindelof both looked decent, but need our midfield to give them a little bit more protection.
Mctominay was steady, but although he won several defensive headers, to me he hasn't got a natural ability to be in the right position when we are defending, similarly with Fred, who I've always supported, but this season he really seems to be struggling, an improvement is required I think.
Bruno had a typical game, some great touches, but to me could get in the CF position more often when Cavani came short.
Greenwood is still learning, and can deliver a great cross, but not enough in my opinion, Martial took his goal well, but although there was the odd glimpse of ability, I really feel he needs to move on.
Cavani received one decent cross, and almost scored, so why don't we whip those crosses in more often? Thought he was unlucky to get subbed.
Ronaldo got no change out of the Everton defence, Sancho looked a little better again, poor shot near the end though, Pogba tried hard, but I certainly think he needs to move on.
Ole and the coaches really need to up their game, or bring in a seasoned experienced coach who can get us playing like a team again.
De Gea made a good save, but didn't have a lot to do, AWB still frustrates me, he shows fantastic skills on occasion, then does something stupid. Shaw was good going forward again, but occasionally goes missing, Varane and Lindelof both looked decent, but need our midfield to give them a little bit more protection.
Mctominay was steady, but although he won several defensive headers, to me he hasn't got a natural ability to be in the right position when we are defending, similarly with Fred, who I've always supported, but this season he really seems to be struggling, an improvement is required I think.
Bruno had a typical game, some great touches, but to me could get in the CF position more often when Cavani came short.
Greenwood is still learning, and can deliver a great cross, but not enough in my opinion, Martial took his goal well, but although there was the odd glimpse of ability, I really feel he needs to move on.
Cavani received one decent cross, and almost scored, so why don't we whip those crosses in more often? Thought he was unlucky to get subbed.
Ronaldo got no change out of the Everton defence, Sancho looked a little better again, poor shot near the end though, Pogba tried hard, but I certainly think he needs to move on.
Ole and the coaches really need to up their game, or bring in a seasoned experienced coach who can get us playing like a team again.
Go and get Kessie in January rather than waiting to get him on a free
The amount of stupid goals this team keeps giving away is just on another level to anything I've seen from a supposed top side. There's no chance of a title challenge with some of these jokers playing every week. Then we have our "star"-players all wasteful as feck in possession, never being able to calm a game down.
Haven't read a post yet but I personally feel better after that game than the smash and grab against Vllareal, as this was a good performance with some very good football from us, Cavani and Sancho has guilt edge chances that they didn't take, simple as that. The goal we conceded happened while my river was frozen, we were setting up to take a corner when it went frosty and when it thawed Townsend was celebrating, looking at the replay its a good counter but should have been stopped by Fred, he got outmuscled and didn't have the savvy to commit the foul.
I truly can’t see Ole winning any titles for us, we are all over the place and the smiling at the end was of a broken man trying to pretend everything is fine. Why should we have to wait till the end of the season to sack/replace him when we can do it now and rescue the season?
been saying for a while that people here blame Lindelof without looking at how the fullbacks go AWOL so often
A very underwhelming performance with a bit of individual quality thrown into the mix.
A better Manager does better with this squad.
A better Manager does better with this squad.
What are you talking about? I’m pretty sure you didn’t know Martial was injured iirc
Moyes and Rafa Benitez are simply better tacticians than Ole.
Brighton, Everton, West Ham, Leicester all have Managers with better tactics than Ole.
The playing squads talent outgrew Ole and he isn't anywhere near the right person to get the best out of this squad.
He drove the Ford from A to B but doesnt know how to drive a Ferrari.
I hope we have the new manager in place before the end of the international break.
Brighton, Everton, West Ham, Leicester all have Managers with better tactics than Ole.
The playing squads talent outgrew Ole and he isn't anywhere near the right person to get the best out of this squad.
He drove the Ford from A to B but doesnt know how to drive a Ferrari.
I hope we have the new manager in place before the end of the international break.
About a dozen.
Could have loaned Saul and weaken Chelsea's depth in the process. Any decent midfielder is better than McFred.
I mean that's the standard United performance in fairness, could've won, could've lost. The issues aren't new and haven't been addressed so I expect that to be the norm for the season which means we won't be close to the title but probably enough for top 4 depending on other teams form.
I would argue scoring 1 goal vs Everton and Villa at home is more the issue than conceding two needless goals, especially considering the attacking talent at our disposal.
Today has shown that you don't need to spend 70m plus on a right-footed winger, when there is the finished article in Andros Townsend for a fraction of the cost.
Would Milan sell?
We just look a mess.
Every game.
It's like 11 strangers just met up for a kick about.
What does Ole do all week in training with this lot?
Every game.
It's like 11 strangers just met up for a kick about.
What does Ole do all week in training with this lot?
Gifted them a point. If we keep conceding goals off of individual mistakes every time, it's clearly a structural problem. We just don't defend as a team. We still could've won it if Pogba put that free header in though.
Any hope I had of sustaining a league challenge is pretty much gone now. Teams are more than happy to draw against us at OT to ever give us space. Even when we lead, we can't control games through this midfield and we eventually concede. The same pattern keeps happening.
The board needs to look at potential coaches for the future because the current staff is not capable of making players play well throughout a season. And you can't challenge with that kind of inconsistency.
Any hope I had of sustaining a league challenge is pretty much gone now. Teams are more than happy to draw against us at OT to ever give us space. Even when we lead, we can't control games through this midfield and we eventually concede. The same pattern keeps happening.
The board needs to look at potential coaches for the future because the current staff is not capable of making players play well throughout a season. And you can't challenge with that kind of inconsistency.
We have Ole as a manager for the same reason we didn't buy the right players. It's just a different angle on the same problem, which is the owners.
Does nobody actually remember last season?
We were 14th/15th after the same amount of games.
I don’t understand why Cavani was taken off,he works so hard in all parts of the pitch. Ronaldo is never going run around and chase back. Everton played the game the way they wanted, 28% possesion, 1 corner, two shots on target, and to honest they would have been delighted with a point at start of day. We just seem to have no way of beating teams that play that way. I love Ole but I really think that he has taken us as far as he can. I would like to see Zidane come in and , with the squad we have would have us playing better and more secure.
Madness. With Henderson we had lost 6-2 to Villarreal
Cavani substitution was unnecessary. Why bring him off at 55th min? We hardly did anything after that
Another game desperately hoping for a late goal to paper over the cracks.
I just feel very flat to it all. We serve up the same predictable tired sludge so often.
I just feel very flat to it all. We serve up the same predictable tired sludge so often.
On the plus side Sancho is showing signs of improvement, shame there is an international break.
He’s out of contract in summer so yeah, decent offer and he’d leave. Milan can’t afford the wages right now
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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18%
Bruno Fernandes
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14%
David de Gea
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12%
Anthony Martial
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8%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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8%
Mason Greenwood
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7%
Raphael Varane
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5%
Jadon Sancho
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5%
Edinson Cavani
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2%
Fred
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1%
Scott McTominay
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1%
Luke Shaw
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 288 ratings.
Score Predictions
203,11,34
- Man Utd win
- Everton win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 24% Man Utd 2:0 Everton
- 21% Man Utd 2:1 Everton
- 15% Man Utd 3:1 Everton
- 11% Man Utd 3:0 Everton
- 10% Man Utd 1:1 Everton
- 5% Man Utd 1:0 Everton
- 3% Man Utd 4:0 Everton
- 2% Man Utd 2:2 Everton
- 2% Man Utd 0:1 Everton
- 2% Man Utd 4:1 Everton
- 1% Man Utd 0:0 Everton
- 1% Man Utd 1:2 Everton
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 Everton
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Everton
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Everton
- 0% Man Utd 5:0 Everton
- 0% Man Utd 3:2 Everton
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Everton
- Possession
- 72% 28%
- Shots
- 13 12
- Shots on Target
- 6 2
- Corners
- 10 1
- Fouls
- 10 9
Referee
Michael Oliver
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Paul Pogba
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replaced by Jadon Sancho
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replaced by Cristiano Ronaldo
