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Watching Brighton v. Arsenal just for Graham Potter and tactical analysis.
Big fan of G-Potz. Be interesting to see where he goes next.Watching Brighton v. Arsenal just for Graham Potter and tactical analysis.
Im shocked Spurs didn’t bring him in, they just might do now with Nuno’s sputtering start and negative football.Big fan of G-Potz. Be interesting to see where he goes next.
I understand what you're saying but short term appointments seem to be more of a thing nowadays.I think Conte would just be a stop-gap, which is fine. But, I worry his short-term appointment will do long-term damage to the squad. Also, he doesn't really develop young players: what would happen to Sancho, Greenwood, and Rashford? Lastly, his transfer record is very bad: while at Chelsea, he bought Morata, Bakayoko, Batshuayi, Drinkwater, Luiz, Zappacosta, Emerson, Giroud, and Barkley. His only two good signings were Kante and Rudiger.
I wouldn't be so confident. I am no longer. We are clearly playing much worse than last year and the CM is even worse which I didn't see coming.It's all pointless anyway, Ole isn't going anywhere. This team is far too good to not get top 4, even with poor coaching set up.
At least Ole gives them chances; Greenwood has come a long way in the last couple years - and I think Ole should get a lot of credit for his development? Would Conte even play Rashford, Sancho, and Greenwood? Doesn't he prefer to play with three CBs and two wingbacks? But, maybe Conte would come up with a solution to this problem, not sure. I agree that since Conte has a proven track record he might help us win a trophy in the short run, but I worry about the price we will pay in the long run.I understand what you're saying but short term appointments seem to be more of a thing nowadays.
As for development, are they going to develop any further with Solskjaer? I doubt it.
In terms of signings I'm not too worried about that. The squad is almost there bar one or two. We just need a manager with a proven track record.
Because a great CDM isn't the silver bullet to winning titles, just like a RW and CB also aren't. The "actual problem" is still at large no matter what midfielder eventually joins us. The coaching setup is not of the required standard to compete for the highest honours.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
It'll get better when Rashford's back, we don't have anyone else that offers that kind of explosive pace and he'll give us a better outlet. He'll also change how teams set up against us, we really need him back asap.I wouldn't be so confident. I am no longer. We are clearly playing much worse than last year and the CM is even worse which I didn't see coming.
Better managers will come up with a plan that masks the problem in personnel, not expose them further with weird selections.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Great managers don’t go for aging Ronaldo and spend that money on actual issues in our lineup. Good managers let go Martial and VdB to raise funds if they don’t see them as important part of the squad, it’s his own doing stop making these clueless excuses.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
But they might play a system that suits them better, rather than keep doing the same thing over and over again that clearly doesn’t work.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
He stole Pobga from us and played him at Juventus. So yes. He would play youth. Granted he probably wouldn't buy Sancho and would have spent the money elsewhere. What price in the long run do you mean? Juventus kept churning for years after he laid his foundation. Chelsea won the UCL 18 months after he was sacked. Hardly leaving clubs in bad shape.At least Ole gives them chances; Greenwood has come a long way in the last couple years - and I think Ole should get a lot of credit for his development? Would Conte even play Rashford, Sancho, and Greenwood? Doesn't he prefer to play with three CBs and two wingbacks? But, maybe Conte would come up with a solution to this problem, not sure. I agree that since Conte has a proven track record he might help us win a trophy in the short run, but I worry about the price we will pay in the long run.
Top managers have a way of making things work. Before Tuchel came, Chelsea were trying to get rid of Jorginho and couldn't find a CB partnership that could hold water. They solve problems. Pep doesn't have a striker but no one has reduced expectations of him cause of that. It is not compulsory Fred and McTominay must play together.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Top managers help mask their squads deficiencies by playing a certain system and employing certain tactics, ours are currently exposed for all to see.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Agree, a new manager may be needed, but until the CM is sorted by getting rid of Fred, DVB and buying a Rice type player . New guy will have the same problem, and go to the board for what he wantsSacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
I wouldn't have Rodgers cause of the Liverpool connection. He's on a Klopp like level where it'd be worth it.Potter, Rodgers and Hasenhuttl would all be huge upgrades on Solskjaer and eminently ‘gettable’. And that’s only looking at the Premier League - there’s many more throughout Europe who would have their stamp on that United inside six weeks. It’s so depressing watching us sleepwalk through another season when the obvious has been, well, obvious for a long time now.
He has had almost 3 years to buy a DM. And he has spent money. Tell the board to buy a DM instead of VdB who he somehow never plays. Or buy a DM instead of Amad and Pellistri, etc. He has had so many chances to upgrade the midfield.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Pretty sure even if you give Ole Rodri + Gundogan instead of McFred, he'll still have problems. At this point, the issues are deeper than what the CM partnership does.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Give it to CristianoHypothetically, let's say whatever manager the club really wanted (be it Zidane, Conte, Ten Hag, whoever) said they'd take the job but only in the summer.
What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
Unlikely that an out of work manager would want to wait till the end of the season IMO. If we wanted Ten Hag / Potter we might have to wait but Zidane / Conte should be available.Hypothetically, let's say whatever manager the club really wanted (be it Zidane, Conte, Ten Hag, whoever) said they'd take the job but only in the summer.
What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
To be fair, Ole did not make the Ronaldo signing.Great managers don’t go for aging Ronaldo and spend that money on actual issues in our lineup. Good managers let go Martial and VdB to raise funds if they don’t see them as important part of the squad, it’s his own doing stop making these clueless excuses.
I don’t think it could have happened without his blessing, someone like Conte would have never give in if player would be forced on him. It’s quite clear Ole is just happy to be here and is trying to keep everyone content too.To be fair, Ole did not make the Ronaldo signing.
I don't know.What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
Pretty sure we've had this scenario about three times already (if we count when our form fell off a cliff when he first became manager and we squandered top 4)
That is spot on.I don't know.
But how United handle the possible scenario - where Ole is sacked - will be extremely interesting to witness.
Most United fans I know are far from convinced Ole will ever truly deliver.
But then again they're almost sure we'll royally feck up the next appointment if he's sacked.
Nice situation to be in.
I think Zidane would do wonders with the players you have and he's your best bet to win something in the near future, so it would be the best appointment to make the best out of Cristiano Ronaldo who I expect to keep a very good level this season and next one.I think the lack of an obvious replacement might keep Ole in a job for a while longer. I can’t see us going for Conte and I have no idea who else there is available. Can’t see us getting Zidane either
I’d beg to differ. I think the squad is too unbalanced now and the arrival of CR7 could make situations difficult. I think there is very chance we don’t make top 4 this season if he stays as managerIt's all pointless anyway, Ole isn't going anywhere. This team is far too good to not get top 4, even with poor coaching set up.