Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)

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Is anyone really surprised that the Saudis have finally got into football?

No one really knows how it's all going to pan out, it certainly isn't as easy to throw huge sums of money around as it was when Chelsea and City done it, although the money behind them is off the scale it'll still take time for it to really get going providing of course they get the right people in.

I'm not too concerned where it leaves us, we've competed just fine with City and Chelsea transferwise, I wonder what City's owners are now thinking?

I'd laugh my head off if it was another venkys with Blackburn doubt it somehow though, I think these guys will mean business.
 

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Got to admit if we have to watch the farce that is oil clubs competing againts each other, then I'd far rather see Newcastle bossing than I would City or Chelsea.
 

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It’ll be us who suffer the most.

We are miles off City & Liverpool. Chelsea are ahead of us too. Who’s spot in the top 4 do you think they are taking?
Long term I'd bet on United over Liverpool. Liverpool looks much more dependent on Klopp remaining there just like Arsenal in the early 2010s with Wenger. I think you still have much more resources than them and I can see a post-Klopp hangover dropping them out. Afterall, you brought in Sancho, Varane and Cristiano this summer!
 

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Newcastle fans won't give two hoots and why would they? But they could win 10 PL titles in a row and they still won't get the credit, admiration or feel the joy that the likes of Leicester fans experienced. They are now just an Oil Club like City and any success they have will be hallow, they're essentially a mid table club who got lucky.

People may say I'm salty and perhaps I am but I would still say the same if United started spending beyond their means. I think football as the sport I loved as a kid is long dead.
The alternative of course being an ideal world where United can outspend everyone because they have more fans right?
 

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Imagine if all this is because Bin Salman really likes Geordie Shore.
 

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"The ban led to a piracy operation, which the World Trade Organization said was facilitated by the Saudis, rebroadcasting beIN feeds via a renegade BeOut Q service. That has already been shut down and beIN has also been informed that action has been taken by the Saudis against other internet-based feeds taking footage of sports from the Doha-based network."

- The Premier League allowed ownership to a country that not only blocked BeIn sports due to a dispute with the Qataris, but they also pirated the broadcasts and sold it as BeOut. Oh but they shut it down now so everything is ok.

This will bite the PL in the ass at some point. I don't think the Saudi's will give two shites about the legal wording, they will fund Newcastle at an embarrassing level which will completely destroy the competitiveness of the league. And if they try to challenge the Kingdom, expect more retaliation along the lines or BeOut.
 
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Is anyone really surprised that the Saudis have finally got into football?

No one really knows how it's all going to pan out, it certainly isn't as easy to throw huge sums of money around as it was when Chelsea and City done it, although the money behind them is off the scale it'll still take time for it to really get going providing of course they get the right people in.

I'm not too concerned where it leaves us, we've competed just fine with City and Chelsea transferwise, I wonder what City's owners are now thinking?

I'd laugh my head off if it was another venkys with Blackburn doubt it somehow though, I think these guys will mean business.
They were threatening this for years and even shook hands on a deal to buy Liverpool around 2007 before Abu Dhabi bought City via DIC but pulled out cause the Scousers human rights record was so poor. They been planning on getting into football for the best part of 15 years (since Roman bought Chelseaish). They are certainly not gonna rush things or half arse it like Venky's.
 

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The last thing they need is lucrative sponsors
They'll probably be sponsored by a company owned by the PIF in order to pour money into the club like City with Etihad.

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Facebook or Uber, for example.
 

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Is anyone really surprised that the Saudis have finally got into football?
Not at all. They have been trying to invest in non-oil things for last many years. And football is lucrative business. And it also aligns pretty well with the Vision 2030 that MBS launched.
 

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Is it OK to call them murderers or is it racist?
Section 19, part 3 of the PC code clearly says it’s permissible but you shouldn’t mention their ethnicity.

This is OK: “Newcastle have been acquired by murderous cnuts”

This is not OK: “Newcastle have been acquired by Arab murderous counts”
 

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Newcastle fans won't give two hoots and why would they? But they could win 10 PL titles in a row and they still won't get the credit, admiration or feel the joy that the likes of Leicester fans experienced. They are now just an Oil Club like City and any success they have will be hallow, they're essentially a mid table club who got lucky.

People may say I'm salty and perhaps I am but I would still say the same if United started spending beyond their means. I think football as the sport I loved as a kid is long dead.
Yes I'd agree it's hallow success no matter how much some fanboy journalist talks it up. Only daft people would call you salty, the game has become a competition between the lottery winners.
 

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What the feck?
What?

Don't go all racist on me.
The owners are muslim. Why wouldn't they buy players who believe what they believe?

If it's a too sensitive issue fine, i'll delete the post.
Just to be clear, no way in hell is this a dig for any religion.
 

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But they could win 10 PL titles in a row and they still won't get the credit, admiration or feel the joy that the likes of Leicester fans experienced
Nonsense. Newcastle are an old club with so many fans, way more than City. They will be delirious. So will be the media.
 

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The alternative of course being an ideal world where United can outspend everyone because they have more fans right?
Thankfully the Saudis and Emiratis saved European football eh? :lol:

Ever heard of Bayern? I suggest you read a bit to see how they grew their commercial and global profile over the past 20 years, without having to become an extension of an abhorrent nation-state.
 

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Those Geordie lads holding up a Saudi flag on the sky sports main page is hilarious. Goes to show how little people care as long as their football club gets a few bones thrown their way by a sugar daddy.
 

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The alternative of course being an ideal world where United can outspend everyone because they have more fans right?
What he means is that economic success is no longer dependable on how you earn it in the pitch.

Clubs like City, PSG or Chelsea were just bought. Before their takeovers, they were mostly very small clubs. There was no sporting transition between being a small club to having sucess. There's no joy in winning if you just cheated your way there.

But well, money is money. Newcastle will be a new contender that at least has more sporting history than Citeh, even if thye are a small club.
 

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I only hope the away fans take the mickey out of it by chanting the name of Khashoggi for the full 90 minutes until the treacherous lot take their money and feck off from football out of shame.
 

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What?

Don't go all racist on me.
The owners are muslim. Why wouldn't they buy players who believe what they believe?

If it's a too sensitive issue fine, i'll delete the post.
Just to be clear, no way in hell is this a dig for any religion.
:lol:

I know you want to put the disclaimer that it is not a dig on Islam/Muslims, but it certainly feels so. Many of the football club owners, including ours are Christian. Is there some kind of restriction they impose that all players they sign should be deeply religious and believe Jesus to be the only true saviour.
 

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I didn’t say they will buy a new team in January. I would expect to see that in the summer, however.
The statement: People are reacting like they can go out tomorrow and buy a whole new team....to which you said 'of course they can'

The implication therefore being that they will buy a new team in January.

Which they won't.
 

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Those Geordie lads holding up a Saudi flag on the sky sports main page is hilarious. Goes to show how little people care as long as their football club gets a few bones thrown their way by a sugar daddy.
Holding a Saudi flag in one hand and a Carling in another. What a world we live in.
 

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Like the vast majority of the sport's history, you mean?
And how do you think those clubs established those histories? I'll give you one example that implicates all 3 of the self proclaimed history clubs.

Arsenal haven't been relegated in a billion years, ironically they weren't promoted into the top division either. They were voted in on the back of Liverpool throwing a match to save Manchester United from being relegated (how times have changed eh...) which saw Spurs relegated instead and the league descend into a farce before it was put on hold for WW1.

When the league resumed 3 years later, were Spurs and Chelsea reinstated? Nope, would the newly 22 instead of 20 team league take the the top 4 from the 2nd division? Nope. Just the top 2 and 2 voted in clubs.

Chelsea who got shafted by the match fixing were given one spot. So where would the other go, Spurs who got relegated, 3rd placed Barnsley from Division 2. Nope at the sway of Sir Henry Norris (he was an MP btw...) Arsenal were elected in ahead of both. Interesting that, the 3 clubs who like to proclaim themselves as self made and built from nothing and fully earned. 1 bribed the other to stave off a relegation that could have changed the shape of English football, while the 3rd used an mp to bully their way in ahead of those more deserving. But yeah.. sporting merit all throughout history is what put certain clubs in certain spots.

Just imagine how different football could have been.. We could also talk about the time United were going out of business and shity evil, awful Abu Dhabi loving City helped prevent them going bust etc..

History sir, is written by the victors.
 

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Funny thing is, that's what it comes down to in general. All these morality lectures are just a smoke screen.
A smoke screen for what? This forum has always leaned massively against the idea of the Saudi's taking over United.
 

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:lol:

I know you want to put the disclaimer that it is not a dig on Islam/Muslims, but it certainly feels so. Many of the football club owners, including ours are Christian. Is there some kind of restriction they impose that all players they sign should be deeply religious and believe Jesus to be the only true saviour.
Are they? I assumed Jewish.