They lost Allegri and gained Sarri who just came off a good first and only season at Chelsea in 2018/19. Sarri admitted to having difficulties managing Ronaldo and accommodating his interests and obligations outside football. Ronaldo had freedoms that the rest of the squad didn't enjoy, like a time he apparently took a day off training to buy a 2M Ferrari.
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Im past focusing on one player. We obsessed over lindelof and got Varane, we obsessed over right wing and got sancho. Despite not being what he was, Ronaldo would 100% be getting 40 goals or thereabouts with city and probably pool too despite their different style.
We simply aren't a team where any player performs at a consistently high level because we're so poor back to front.
We simply aren't a team where any player performs at a consistently high level because we're so poor back to front.
So basically you’re saying my points are irrelevant in the discussion then and yours are right.
So you don’t think Juventus’ form had anything to do with management as well, when United are getting lambasted about management at the same time we see how important that is to a team.
I read the article and the stats are not in favour of Ronaldo but every other player has played more games than Ronaldo have they not would they’re stats not be higher so.
The lack of touches could be attributed to the fact we are also not a slick attacking unit and do things off the cuff also.
Juve got progressively worse because they made bad signings after bad signings. Throughout most of Allegri's tenure they rode on Conte and Marotta's success. You can see now how hard Allegri is struggling now
It's basically a fuelled media narrative against Ronaldo and a small part of the fanbase lapping it up. Ronaldo's performances are, of course, magnified and everything he doesn't do is suddenly exaggerated and pointed as the reason why we lose. See, Ronaldo playing as a striker is somehow responsible for every team bypassing our midfield and our defence playing like a bunch of children. It's not the tactics, it's not the organization, it's not the structure, it's not the formation, it's not the coaching, it's Ronaldo sitting up top that makes us concede elementary goals. I would partly understand this argument if last season we were any good, or the season before that, but we have had the same problems way before Ronaldo even thought about coming here. Last season, the season before that - we've literally never looked good under Ole. Just sit back, hit on the counter and inshallah for Rashford or Bruno to save us. Our playstyle isn't even remotely different with Ronaldo. There's only so much this whole idea of "go out and enjoy yourself, lads" is gonna help. At some point performances are going to catch up to you and in the last two seasons we were incredibly lucky that Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal were absolute shit and Liverpool had that one season with its injury crisis. Now Arsenal have started to perform, Spurs are still shit but Chelsea are firing and that has made our position under a threat. I still think we have a high chance of getting top 4 with this team despite Ole's vibing style, due to its sheer quality, but at this point that's simply not enough. You can't spend 500 million on players and continue to play without any sort of patterns of play or tactics and say "yep, top 4 is good enough". With LVG we were shit, but at least we knew what the team was trying to play. With Ole we are shit without even having any idea of what the team is doing on the pitch.
Yep, Ronaldo equals clicks and these retired pundits need to make some bread so use his name.
I'm really enjoying this. 
For people who has blamed our problems on Ole, his understanding of football and his tactics :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...man-united-news-ronaldo-pressing-21955329.amp
He has told people to stop blaming Ronaldo for his lack of Pressing because he believes its not true!
So let me guess Ole was a crap Manager before but he is right about this one thing because he is talking about Ronaldo - right?
So now all of a sudden the Ronaldo fan boys are going to start saying that Ole is right? Or is it that he is just a crap manager who still can't see this bloody mistake that so many professional footballers, pundits, news channels, youtube channels, football news channels, football fans, ex legends, stats, oppositions fans can see - but not the fans of Ronaldo.
And the best manager in the world.
Ole gunnar Solskjaer
@captaincantona. Hope your enjoying this. Not a single stat proven by the Ronaldo supporters who just talk the talk whilst we provide everything.
Go on let the backing of Ole begin because he has started backing Ronaldo. Haha.
For people who has blamed our problems on Ole, his understanding of football and his tactics :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...man-united-news-ronaldo-pressing-21955329.amp
He has told people to stop blaming Ronaldo for his lack of Pressing because he believes its not true!
So let me guess Ole was a crap Manager before but he is right about this one thing because he is talking about Ronaldo - right?
So now all of a sudden the Ronaldo fan boys are going to start saying that Ole is right? Or is it that he is just a crap manager who still can't see this bloody mistake that so many professional footballers, pundits, news channels, youtube channels, football news channels, football fans, ex legends, stats, oppositions fans can see - but not the fans of Ronaldo.
And the best manager in the world.
Ole gunnar Solskjaer
@captaincantona. Hope your enjoying this. Not a single stat proven by the Ronaldo supporters who just talk the talk whilst we provide everything.
Go on let the backing of Ole begin because he has started backing Ronaldo. Haha.
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Would Ole bench him for Cavani?
I am not sure Ole would.
I am not sure Ole would.
Had a dream Ronaldo left in Jan, he didn't want to play in the Europa league. Hope it doesn't come true.
I mean it's the simple fact that our results and performances haven't really differed with or without Ronaldo. This really should tell you enough that he's not the issue but hey ho, continue arguing with everyone.I'm really enjoying this.
For people who has blamed our problems on Ole, his understanding of football and his tactics :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...man-united-news-ronaldo-pressing-21955329.amp
He has told people to stop blaming Ronaldo for his lack of Pressing because he believes its not true!
So let me guess Ole was a crap Manager before but he is right about this one thing because he is talking about Ronaldo - right?
So now all of a sudden the Ronaldo fan boys are going to start saying that Ole is right? Or is it that he is just a crap manager who still can't see this bloody mistake that so many professional footballers, pundits, news channels, youtube channels, football news channels, football fans, ex legends, stats, oppositions fans can see - but not the fans of Ronaldo.
And the best manager in the world.
Ole gunnar Solskjaer
@captaincantona. Hope your enjoying this. Not a single stat proven by the Ronaldo supporters who just talk the talk whilst we provide everything.
Go on let the backing of Ole begin because he has started backing Ronaldo. Haha.
Always entertaining.
Wernt we 2nd in the league last year?
We are the 18th defensively or some shit this year which we weren't last year. Something has effected the balance of our team. I'm never saying we were perfect last year, but we were simply not this shit. I personally dont think that we can even get to an Europa League Final with Ronaldo as our Forward because how it effects our balance.
You don't blame Ronaldo.
I do blame Ronaldo. Professional footballers, stats, Schweinsteiger, MicahRichards, Sutton, Peter Crouch, Bonnucci, Sky Sports, Goal, Teamtalk, YouTube Channels like Tifo, atheltic, BBC, heatmaps have all blamed Ronaldo - if you want me to find more I can be happy to do that? It takes me one second to find another.
Here is ANOTHER NEW article about the same shit.
Yet you don't see it. Yet we are making it up.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...to-keep-man-utd-job/oyiwy5vaqdyj1w898bh80x47z
Every time anyone talks - a new article talking about the same thing.
Whilst you, just talk. No proof.
Yeah, with 74 points, just 5 points above Liverpool who were in an injury crisis, playing the same dour football we've played since Ole came in. Was Ronaldo at fault for that, too?
Oh so now we got to bring up the excuses of other teams for Ronaldo. And what about being the 18th worst defensively this year? Why were not that last year?
What's the excuse for that? 18th worse!!
Picking and choosing what to reply to.
And here is ANOTHER article!!! Can't wait to give you the next one. Come on, reply to me.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...nited-cristiano-ronaldo-pressing-21879985.amp
Ah yes, so the 5-0 pummeling to Liverpool wouldn't have happened without Ronaldo upfront? What is he to blame for, for any of the 5 goals?
Come on, we're literally just repeating ourselves here, myself and many other commenters, the games towards the end of the season highlighted this problem already, and we finished very poorly.
Wolves, we were absolutely torn apart, and if not for their finishing, they would've had 3+ goals. All without Ronaldo. But no, the games towards last season were because we had Bailly and Lindelof in the last Liverpool game, instead of this issue that was already there.
I use my eyes, I don't need some reporters to back up my point, I think most can agree, a lot that comes out of pundits/reporters' mouths is pure rubbish.
We were only second anyway due to Liverpool falling apart and Chelsea having Lampard for half a season. I do admit, earlier in the last season our defence was much better, but that was due to the way we played, recently, Ole has been trying to dominate games more and less counter attacking styles, which clearly isn't working.
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while the inclusion of Ronaldo in the team has brought positives it has also brought negatives...those negatives are clearly outlined in the plethora of articles and opinions that Bebe highlighted. None of this is Ronaldo’s fault. He is what he is and the world and it’s dog knew a) what we were getting when we signed him and b) what we would be sacrificing in order to help him score his crazy amount of goals. It is not even an arguement that he needs to be accommodated at his age and we are not well drilled enough or good enough to do that.
I do think he is shite at most everything bar scoring goals...I’m saddened by how bad his first touch has become and how flimsy he is on the ball...I do think he could be the best impact sub we could ever ask for...but it’s gonna take some set of kahones to leave a living legend on the bench...but if we are honest, we all knew this was coming in the back of our minds.
I’m gonna slightly clarify my position here and I think Bebe will agree...
while the inclusion of Ronaldo in the team has brought positives it has also brought negatives...those negatives are clearly outlined in the plethora of articles and opinions that Bebe highlighted. None of this is Ronaldo’s fault. He is what he is and the world and it’s dog knew a) what we were getting when we signed him and b) what we would be sacrificing in order to help him score his crazy amount of goals. It is not even an arguement that he needs to be accommodated at his age and we are not well drilled enough or good enough to do that.
I do think he is shite at most everything bar scoring goals...I’m saddened by how bad his first touch has become and how flimsy he is on the ball...I do think he could be the best impact sub we could ever ask for...but it’s gonna take some set of kahones to leave a living legend on the bench...but if we are honest, we all knew this was coming in the back of our minds.
It's not an excuse, it's the truth. In Fergie's time as a manager, that result wouldn't even get you top 4, let alone the 66 points Ole finished the season before that. And I'm curious as to why you think Ronaldo, used as a lone striker, is responsible for the 18th worst defensive record?
Yes he was! The first goal happened from his lack of pressing that caused Greenwood to press and leave his RW space then Wan Bissaka to press at RW and the lkndelof to cover then Maguire to move then Shaw then Keita to finish in free space.
And here is ANOTHER article, just incase if your too resistant to watch tbe video because it hurts your feelings about Ronaldo!
https://www.otbsports.com/soccer/cunningham-ronaldo-1267399
You're like a broken record, man. You keep repeating the same thing over and over, despite the fact that it is utter nonsense and I explained it to you why yesterday. But you continue to want to live in Wonderland where Ronaldo is at fault for everything that's bad in the world. At this point it has to be wumming.
Because pressing and positioning of a forward on on ball playing defenders effects the oppositions freedom to create their chancesIt's not an excuse, it's the truth. In Fergie's time as a manager, that result wouldn't even get you top 4, let alone the 66 points Ole finished the season before that. And I'm curious as to why you think Ronaldo, used as a lone striker, is responsible for the 18th worst defensive record?
So easy
And here is ANOTHER article.
I love it.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socc...ue-posed-for-united-and-ronaldo-40950707.html
Come at me. I will give you another.
Talking just with your made up stuff but I am giving you data, articles, profession footballers. Everything.
I feel like Ronaldo. No one can beat me. Whilst the rest is Greenwood.
Let me know when you want the next article.
Which is also from the lack of practicing pressing in training, where your precious ARTICLES have reported players were questioning Ole's decision to press as they had barely prepared for it.Yes he was! The first goal happened from his lack of pressing that caused Greenwood to press and leave his RW space then Wan Bissaka to press at RW and the lkndelof to cover then Maguire to move then Shaw then Keita to finish in free space.
And here is ANOTHER article, just incase if your too resistant to watch tbe video because it hurts your feelings about Ronaldo!
https://www.otbsports.com/soccer/cunningham-ronaldo-1267399
Ronaldo was literally at the other side of the field, an absolute joke that you think he was at fault for the first goal. If anything, Bruno should've been pressing as he was closer to the ball. Get a grip
If you are unable to see that our pressing is not in cohesion as a team, I really don't know what else to say. As the lack of ability to press as a unit is the main issue of that first goal, it's one player after another. not all at once, watch Liverpool's press, you could learn a thing or two.
You are the one repeating things. I'm providing new articles. You are talking the same thing with no proof.
ANOTHER new article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews....icester-solskjaer-tactics-problem-1253936/amp
thank you so much.You explained the problem to yourself as seen by that video.
He plays on the left and doesn't play centrally so the Liverpool CB'S have all the time in the world. What happens when Bruno goes forward? The Midfield gets opened up!!!!
So Greenwood went forward and the goal raised.
The goal raised because of Ronaldo's lack of pressing and is explained beautifully in that video.
Beautiful stuff.
Want to know what's the best thing!!!
This video was made before the Liverpool match but the same thing happened after the video and it was seen in the Liverpool match!
God I should be a lawyer.
Proof and going to jail.
You have NOTHING!
Literally cannot even watch the proof, just keep on talking.
And ANOTHER article
https://www.insidesport.in/premier-...n-united-put-the-least-pressure-on-defenders/
Let's be real, Ronaldo is who he is, he doesn't do any defensive work. Every manager and even fan in the world knows that but how dumb are Ole and his staff to still try and play pressing with him in the starting eleven and against a team as strong as Liverpool. We can discuss all we want it brining Ronaldo was a mistake, I think it was, but this tactical blunder is solely on Ole and his crew.Yes he was! The first goal happened from his lack of pressing that caused Greenwood to press and leave his RW space then Wan Bissaka to press at RW and the lkndelof to cover then Maguire to move then Shaw then Keita to finish in free space.
And here is ANOTHER article, just incase if your too resistant to watch tbe video because it hurts your feelings about Ronaldo!
https://www.otbsports.com/soccer/cunningham-ronaldo-1267399
We have basically been playing a 4-2-4 with Bruno alongside Ronaldo, so Bruno on the right SHOULD be closing down instead. If the midfield gets opened up because of that, well, it points back to a tactical issue again and Bruno shouldn't be playing so far up in that case.
You explained the problem to yourself as seen by that video.
He plays on the left and doesn't play centrally so the Liverpool CB'S have all the time in the world. What happens when Bruno goes forward? The Midfield gets opened up!!!!
Don't be an absolute clown.
There’s one for you @Bebestation Ronaldo has more defensive headers than attacking ones but he doesn’t defend
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....6/cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-headers-stat/amp/
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....6/cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-headers-stat/amp/
The first goal didn't happen because of Ronaldo. It happened because Greenwood did feck all to stop the pass. If he had done his job then the pass would have to be played back into the centre or Allison.
This exact thing happened against Leicester and again it was Greenwood.
Ronaldo don't press but you put anyone there and it's going to happen the same because either we know feck all about pressing or the players refuse to press. What we are doing is not pressing. It's a scam to call it pressing. The coaches have no clue and just because it's the fashion they talk about it.
This exact thing happened against Leicester and again it was Greenwood.
Ronaldo don't press but you put anyone there and it's going to happen the same because either we know feck all about pressing or the players refuse to press. What we are doing is not pressing. It's a scam to call it pressing. The coaches have no clue and just because it's the fashion they talk about it.
It's obviously not Ronaldo causing our defensive issues.
Ronaldo didn't play in the Wolves game, where we were absolutely torn apart in midfield and there was that famous image of all our 4 attackers running in behind at the same time.
It's clear the setup isn't right, and all individual players can do is paper over (or sometimes exacerbate) the cracks.
Ronaldo didn't play in the Wolves game, where we were absolutely torn apart in midfield and there was that famous image of all our 4 attackers running in behind at the same time.
It's clear the setup isn't right, and all individual players can do is paper over (or sometimes exacerbate) the cracks.
We play 424 because Ronaldo doesn't press! What happens if Ronaldo presses!!! Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood on the same level and Ronaldo is higher up the pitch aka a 4231. If he stays still then he stays on the same bloody level. Then you see Greenwood press in the video. You see Bruno press because Ronaldo simply doesn't do it and he has always been a shit lone central striker who needs a central striking partnership. Now this ends up looking like a 424!
Funny how we never played a bloody 424 but we decide to do this now with Ronaldo on the side
New season, new tactics!!And ANOTHER new Article
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca.../cristiano-ronaldo-united-pressing-stats/amp/
Such average tactical understanding.
If our striker was sleeping on the pitch and not pressing - which means he doesn't get forward to the CB'S that means he is generally quite deep and on the level of the attacking 3 behind him
Look how little he is in the box. Look how deep he is. Look at how little he is on the right hand side. Look at how heavy he is to the left handed side especially the most forward areas.
The guy just literally sits in these positions and the CB'S can pick the perfect pass because Ronaldo is playing with a cigar.
Proof upon proof upon proof upon proof but you don't believe it because it hurts you love for a player.
NOW DO NOT TALK TO ME UNLESS YOU Have proof!! You do not.
When did I say he doesn't defendThere’s one for you @Bebestation Ronaldo has more defensive headers than attacking ones but he doesn’t defend
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....6/cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-headers-stat/amp/
I said he doesn't press and position himself right on to the CB'S.My lord this is getting embarrassing.
He can head a damn corner out! Haha he has been good at headering
You do know that's different right? Heading out a corner and pressing
and I got told I don't understand football.I think that's me done for today. Can't stop laughing.
Another one for you pretty good pressing for someone that doesn’t press.When did I say he doesn't defend
My lord this is getting embarrassing.
He can head a damn corner out! Haha he has been good at headering
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....epended-on-it-after-scoring-20211021.amp.html
We don't have to play 424, Ronaldo or not. Why do we have to play a pressing game when majority of our players can't press.? We have never pressed before either.
I agree he was great in the closing stages of the atalanta game. Its why we scored 3 goals in the second half!
It's the only match he pressed well in and it had its benefits and this is why he should press more. Thanks for again making it prove right.
You are now going to tell me he presses like this in the premiere league?
3.5 a game? Lowest in the league. No.
Oh no, you're highlighting a game against Newcastle in which we won 4-1 and he scored 2 goals. He's heavy to the left because Bruno pushes up on the right. If he switched with Bruno and moved to the right, you'd be complaining the exact opposite, he's too heavy on the right. It's because Bruno pushes that far up that he does, and don't tell me this is since Ronaldo came in as Bruno has played that far up the pitch all last season too.We play 424 because Ronaldo doesn't press! What happens if Ronaldo presses!!! Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood on the same level and Ronaldo is higher up the pitch aka a 4231. If he stays still then he stays on the same bloody level. Then you see Greenwood press in the video. You see Bruno press because Ronaldo simply doesn't do it and he has always been a shit lone central striker who needs a central striking partnership. Now this ends up looking like a 424!
Funny how we never played a bloody 424 but we decide to do this now with Ronaldo on the side
And ANOTHER new Article
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca.../cristiano-ronaldo-united-pressing-stats/amp/
Such average tactical understanding.
If our striker was sleeping on the pitch and not pressing - which means he doesn't get forward to the CB'S that means he is generally quite deep and on the level of the attacking 3 behind him
Look how little he is in the box. Look how deep he is. Look at how little he is on the right hand side. Look at how heavy he is to the left handed side especially the most forward areas.
The guy just literally sits in these positions and the CB'S can pick the perfect pass because Ronaldo is playing with a cigar.
Proof upon proof upon proof upon proof but you don't believe it because it hurts you love for a player.
NOW DO NOT TALK TO ME UNLESS YOU Have proof!! You do not.
What happens if Ronaldo presses in a 4-2-3-1, well, we come back to the games towards the end of last season, when we were in shambles regardless.
Anyway, go back to this video. Look at 4:53. Salah makes a curved run to stop the pass to Shaw.
Now, if you went and watched the full match, leading up to the first goal. You would see BRUNO playing on the right next to Ronaldo. Now, tell me why Ronaldo should push over to the right when Bruno is there? Anyway, Bruno pressed VVD, who passed it to Alisson, Bruno continues to close Alisson down. And now lets compare back to Salah's run, Bruno doesn't curve the run and lets Alisson pass back to VVD. None of that goal is to do with Ronaldo at all.
You're whole argument that Ronaldo was at fault for the first goal is now disproven.
Mark Bosnich doesn’t agree with you..
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....defensive-pressing/1a07yzrdkjkrp1xxwmpkj2jsj9
My take on this is that Ole’s ultimate vision for us was a high pressing team and he knows this is the season people want to see his finished article after this rebuild so he’s tried to push it in this season and it’s backfired for a number of reasons (the players we have don’t suit it and through tactical nativity, mix of the two and trying to integrate three new players to the staring 11.)
That’s my take on it. Would like to hear Ole confirm it either way.
Yes, that is a flaw in Ronaldo's game. Just like other players, Ronaldo has his strengths and weaknesses. However, if Ole is intentionally playing in a way that makes it easy to exploit Ronaldo's weakness(high press), can you really blame Ronaldo? Yes, when Ronaldo doesnt press and Bruno does, our team gets cut like butter. So shouldnt Ole ask Bruno to not press high alone like a madman?
If we have slow CBs, and we play a high line, can you blame the CBs or the coach? If you ask Fellaini to play as the deep lying playmaker and it doesnt work, do you blame Fellaini, or the coach for not playing to his strengths and using him as a target man? If you dont have players to engage in a high press, why do it?
Ronaldo is a elite goalscorer. His game has flaws, which are being exploited and has resulted in our poor structure on the pitch as teams easily play through our press, that leads to players covering for each other and the whole team falling like a deck of cards. But I would say the blame lies in the coaching team there. I can guarantee you if there was a more astute coach at our helm, he would get the best outta Ronaldo in a way, that doesnt result in the detriment of the team.
Yes and you laughed at me for giving you articles by Schweinsteiger, MicahRichards, Chris Sutton, Bonnuci, Peter Crouch and Darren Bent.
Then what does Bosnich say - Ronaldo's role is to put the ball in the net!
aka he doesn't bring up anything about pressing that his role is to put the ball in the net even though he was never ever a lone Striker in his career so why is he going to do it now?So let me see? Let's drop Greenwood and Rashford to play Ronaldo with a strike partner is the only thing that has worked centrally in his career before!
Let's build the club and tactics for towards a 36 year old Ronaldo and drop our diamonds of a player like Greenwood and Rashford! Because of Bosnich and you
here we go towards a 442!Ronaldo was never a lone central striker and you can see that in his heat maps. If we build towards a 36 year old - we should have built towards van nistlerooy
I give you articles, I give you footballers, I give you stats, I give you videos, yada yada yadaYes and you laughed at me for giving you articles by Schweinsteiger, MicahRichards, Chris Sutton, Peter Crouch and Darren Bent.
Then what does Bosnich say - Ronaldo's role is to put the ball in the net!
So let me see? Let's drop Greenwood and Rashford to play Ronaldo with a strike partner is the only thing that has worked centrally in his career before!
Let's build the club and tactics for towards a 36 year old Ronaldo and drop our diamonds of a player like Greenwood and Rashford! Because of Bosnich and you
Ronaldo was never a lone central striker and you can see that in his heat maps. If we build towards a 36 year old - we should have built towards van nistlerooy
Rooney and Savage
Yeah, bro, Ronaldo, the lone striker, is somehow responsible for our entire defence and midfield to collapse in a spectacular fashion just because he didn't mindlessly press the keeper for no reason, showcased here:
Yep, that's Ronaldo's fault all right. I wonder how this clown even won 5 CL's, 3 of them back to back when he literally has the "ability" to make every player turn into a disorganized mess, incapable of playing even basic football. Yep, that's Ronaldo. A joke of a footballer. Djemba Djemba, Bebe? WhO? Ronaldo has been the worst Manchester United player in history and that's a fact! He even has the ability to make United players play like shit EVEN when he is not in the team! Amazing stuff. I'd go even as far as to say Ronaldo is clearly responsible for every bad thing in the world, there's no other way. Some guy kills another person somewhere? That's Ronaldo's fault for not pressing the goalkeeper and ruining his day! Utterly despicable person that guy Ronaldo is. Sigh... At this point you're either massively wumming or you have some serious personal issues with Ronaldo. It's actually insane if you believe any of this shit you keep spouting.
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