Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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Who's stopping you from going to the ground or anywhere else out in the public and make your voice heard?

You're angry that everyone else isn't saying exactly the things you want them to say while you are sat on your couch doing sweet feckall.
I no longer live in the UK for one but beyond that, we know organised protest is needed. The desire for that is not there from the 'real' fans.
 

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Yeah, I haven't changed my position on Ole if that's what you're getting at. I stand by my original opinion that he should have been sacked after the Liverpool game, it's genuinely mystifying that he wasn't. But I'm resigned to the fact that he's here for the season now. I'd advise others do the same, you're in for a sad time otherwise.

What's the point in being miserable about something you have absolutely no control over?
No sorry, wasn't eluding to anything you said, just a general opinion since a lot of fans are fickle in both directions. But yeah, I think he's unfortunately here for the season now but I'm still gonna cry about it because that's who I am. (sadly)
 

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No sorry, wasn't eluding to anything you said, just a general opinion since a lot of fans are fickle in both directions. But yeah, I think he's unfortunately here for the season now but I'm still gonna cry about it because that's who I am. (sadly)
Erm, okay :nervous:
 

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I no longer live in the UK for one but beyond that, we know organised protest is needed. The desire for that is not there from the 'real' fans.
Right, so let me get this straight. You don't even have access to the stadium that the team plays in. You have no desire to actually reach out to any United fan groups wherever you are living and organise any kind of tangible protest against the club's decisions that would do something you yourself think HAS to happen, that is Glazers 'catching the heat'? But it is you who has the real desire to bring about the change at Manchester United football club?

Leading a revolution from their mum's basement, is Rightnr.
 

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No sorry, wasn't eluding to anything you said, just a general opinion since a lot of fans are fickle in both directions. But yeah, I think he's unfortunately here for the season now but I'm still gonna cry about it because that's who I am. (sadly)
Would you prefer a caretaker like Fletcher?

To me that would be worse because we have everything to play for and risking it with a caretaker like that would be silly.

I’m happy with Ole so long as we have somebody like Ten Haag is lined up to take over next season.
 

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Right, so let me get this straight. You don't even have access to the stadium that the team plays in. You have no desire to actually reach out to any United fan groups wherever you are living and organise any kind of tangible protest against the club's decisions that would do something you yourself think HAS to happen, that is Glazers 'catching the heat'? But it is you who has the real desire to bring about the change at Manchester United football club?

Leading a revolution from their mum's basement, is Rightnr.
Well, I've explained my position and won't bother with you any more because it's just not worth it frankly.
 

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Would you prefer a caretaker like Fletcher?

To me that would be worse because we have everything to play for and risking it with a caretaker like that would be silly.

I’m happy with Ole so long as we have somebody like Ten Haag is lined up to take over next season.
No I preferred Conte.

At this point I think we'll just have to suffer. The only thing I'll say about Fletcher/other caretaker is that it holds Ole accountable for failing. I want to see players/managers/board members actually held accountable when they suck. I'm tired of the feel good vibes FC that's going around. So if he was relieved of his duty for Fletcher I'd be less miserable because it means the club is actually capable for holding people accountable.
 

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I mean, I sympathise with this view, and we are extremely spoilt and privileged as a fan base. That guy is ridiculous for not watching us just because it’s not going well. Not the hallmark of a ‘proper fan’.

But, at the same time, it’s really fecking annoyin to watch us languish in mediocrity when we had Conte there for the taking.

Yeah fair enough, plenty of people think we missed the boat........but to stop watching the football like your man is mental.

Could be winning matches and they be raged out, I just don't get it
 

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Would you prefer a caretaker like Fletcher?

To me that would be worse because we have everything to play for and risking it with a caretaker like that would be silly.

I’m happy with Ole so long as we have somebody like Ten Haag is lined up to take over next season.
Same. If Ole is going to shut up shop with this 5 at the back and just keep us solid, I'll be fine until the summer. At which point we find a manager that can make us a great team in attack again and make the most of what we have. I just hope beyond all hope that we are actually doing our due diligence on his replacement now.
 

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And what else do you expect after 3 years, that people will be indifferent, hesitating, still wondering if he’s a right man for the job? It’s really simple, you either want Ole to continue, you’re satisfied with progress we’ve made and think United are fine with him in charge, or you think it’s time for a change. Nobody wants to kick his balls but I guess it makes your message a bit more dramatic. Frustration comes from lack of ambition shown by the board and part of fans that accepted we’re no longer aiming at trophies. To me being a United fan and saying “I’d rather have our manager than half of others in the league” means nothing, because that should never even be a question if our gaffer is in the bottom ten of PL managers. We haven’t sunk that low even in the last years and I hope we never will. Oh and with Conte around I’m quite sure a big chunk of our fans and essentially all opposition fan would rather have 9-10 other of current Premier League managers to lead them than Ole.
I agree Ole is not the right manager to win us the PL or CL. Could we win a FA Cup or Europa? Yes, sure. I agree that’s not good enough. But openly cheering for him to fail isn’t the way you support a club. No issue with the boos on the pitch after a bad performance, but the constant harping on social media, the memes… the non-stop negativity on the Caf…

He will be replaced. I’d rather him do decently well now as to not sabotage top 4 chances, progress in the CL, then pounce when the right manager is available.

I’m guessing most of the lads on here don’t run a business and therefore aren’t thinking that an interim manager could really sink us. The wrong appointment could really sink us… Patience. There is a lot of money at stake and the board is a mix of investors, many of whom have a pretty strong voice.

There is ONLY one “right” next manager. The one that wins the PL. That is the reality for Man United. And we won’t know who that is until it actually happens (fingers crossed).
 

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Would you prefer a caretaker like Fletcher?

To me that would be worse because we have everything to play for and risking it with a caretaker like that would be silly.

I’m happy with Ole so long as we have somebody like Ten Haag is lined up to take over next season.
Feel the same way.

I won't lie, Conte was my first choice as I feel the squad would have responded to his management, but that ship has sailed. But Ten Hag is a top alternative; he's got an excellent rep working with the youngsters of which United have plenty, and he may convince VDS to follow him.

I'd hope the board have a genuine football man lined up to take over from Woody at the end of the season. VDS would be perfect for that role I feel.
 

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That's an extremely passive approach: Support the team and assume he leaves at the end of the season. What if he doesn't?

Our board is utterly clueless. I actually do think they need 'help' making the right decisions. But if what they see is supporters cheering the team, they might think things are good enough.
Maybe you're right, I don't know anymore.
 

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Feel the same way.

I won't lie, Conte was my first choice as I feel the squad would have responded to his management, but that ship has sailed. But Ten Hag is a top alternative; he's got an excellent rep working with the youngsters of which United have plenty, and he may convince VDS to follow him.

I'd hope the board have a genuine football man lined up to take over from Woody at the end of the season. VDS would be perfect for that role I feel.
Is there even a hint of interest of United in Ten Haag?

I've seen quite a few United supporters saying 'I'm OK with keeping Solskjaer for the rest of the season if we get Ten Haag at the end of it', but it seems to me a self-comforting thought based on little.
 

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Is there even a hint of interest of United in Ten Haag?

I've seen quite a few United supporters saying 'I'm OK with keeping Solskjaer for the rest of the season if we get Ten Haag at the end of it', but it seems to me a self-comforting thought based on little.
It's actually the opposite. Muliptle reporters have said that united is not interested in him because he's "like moyes"
 

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Would you prefer a caretaker like Fletcher?

To me that would be worse because we have everything to play for and risking it with a caretaker like that would be silly.

I’m happy with Ole so long as we have somebody like Ten Haag is lined up to take over next season.
While I understand with your stance I disagree.

Keeping Ole now is rewarding mediocrity and damages the future, how many players will potentially leave the club if Ole is still around at the end of the season (Donny, Telles, Pogba, dare I say Sancho will be talking to his agent?)

While a caretaker could indeed be worse, I don't think it is a given we will finish top 4 with Ole as things stand now, so I don't see the caretaker option as too much of a concern. It also doesn't have to be someone like Fletcher, I think we need to more away from ex-players and trading in nostalgia.

Why not somebody like Blanc until the end of the season?

I do agree Ten Hag is probably the preferred choice long term. I worry that if Poch becomes available at the end of the season they will opt for him. For me that's a big mistake.
 

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It's actually funny that we got Ole, Fletcher, MCkenna, Carrick and Phelan all in the club because Unitrd Way despite their inadequacy. We then ignore VdS who's the one person that both bleeds red and is adequate to take over from Woodward
 

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No I preferred Conte.

At this point I think we'll just have to suffer. The only thing I'll say about Fletcher/other caretaker is that it holds Ole accountable for failing. I want to see players/managers/board members actually held accountable when they suck. I'm tired of the feel good vibes FC that's going around. So if he was relieved of his duty for Fletcher I'd be less miserable because it means the club is actually capable for holding people accountable.
Yeah in fairness people have their preferences and it sucks when we don't know what the overall vision from the club is.

I've been super supportive of Ole and after this start to the season I have changed my stance and would like a new manager for the start of next season latest. I've gone for Ten Haag as I would like to see the style of football change at United for the long term, I think we need to transition to that style of possession/pressing football in the modern game.
 

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Or…. We stuck with Ole for the time being because there was nobody better available? I don’t think Conte fits United, in the same way Jose didn’t. I still believe Ole is on borrowed time but the notion by a load on here that we’ve missed a chance by not getting Conte in is baffling to me. Sure, he was the best available, but he’s certainly not the best fit.
Only at united have supporters been conditioned to believe that only a specific type of elite manager can come here and be successful. LVG and Mourinho were well passed their best when they joined United. Conte is among the best of the new class and would do well with any great squad.

I mean how do we gauge this?

Pretty much every United related social media post is littered with "OleOut", but social media has always been a toxic cesspit. Meanwhile the matchgoing fans continue to blast out "Ole at thewheel". So its hard to see where most fans stand.
Matchgoing fans will always display solidarity behind the manager at the match, it's a tradition and it's also for show. Stick around for comments on the way out and especially at the bars close by. Many matchday going fans are fed up with Solskjaer too.
 

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Is there even a hint of interest of United in Ten Haag?

I've seen quite a few United supporters saying 'I'm OK with keeping Solskjaer for the rest of the season if we get Ten Haag at the end of it', but it seems to me a self-comforting thought based on little.
It might be wishful thinking, but I'm hoping the board have decided to stick with Ole for the remainder of the season because they don't fancy the idea of an interim, then replacing him with Ten Hag after it's been completed. They may already have an agreement in place, under the table so to speak. It's possible.

We have to assume the board have a semblance of a plan in place, despite them giving us every reason to doubt them.
 

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While I understand with your stance I disagree.

Keeping Ole now is rewarding mediocrity and damages the future, how many players will potentially leave the club if Ole is still around at the end of the season (Donny, Telles, Pogba, dare I say Sancho will be talking to his agent?)

While a caretaker could indeed be worse, I don't think it is a given we will finish top 4 with Ole as things stand now, so I don't see the caretaker option as too much of a concern. It also doesn't have to be someone like Fletcher, I think we need to more away from ex-players and trading in nostalgia.

Why not somebody like Blanc until the end of the season?

I do agree Ten Hag is probably the preferred choice long term. I worry that if Poch becomes available at the end of the season they will opt for him. For me that's a big mistake.
You forgot to mention nepotism.
Amateur.
 

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It might be wishful thinking, but I'm hoping the board have decided to stick with Ole for the remainder of the season because they don't fancy the idea of an interim, then replacing him with Ten Hag after it's been completed. They may already have an agreement in place, under the table so to speak. It's possible.
This but replace "Ten Hag" with "Brendan Rodgers".

Save yourself the inevitable disappointment
 

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Feel the same way.

I won't lie, Conte was my first choice as I feel the squad would have responded to his management, but that ship has sailed. But Ten Hag is a top alternative; he's got an excellent rep working with the youngsters of which United have plenty, and he may convince VDS to follow him.

I'd hope the board have a genuine football man lined up to take over from Woody at the end of the season. VDS would be perfect for that role I feel.
Yeah totally agree, would be great to get somebody like VDS in.
 

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It might be wishful thinking, but I'm hoping the board have decided to stick with Ole for the remainder of the season because they don't fancy the idea of an interim, then replacing him with Ten Hag after it's been completed. They may already have an agreement in place, under the table so to speak. It's possible.

We have to assume the board have a semblance of a plan in place, despite them giving us every reason to doubt them.
It's seems that until a few days ago, the board didn't think there was a reason to even think of an alternative.

So yes, the idea that now we already have decided on a replacement and have a deal with him - when there is nothing to even link us with with him - is really wishful thinking.
 

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Same. If Ole is going to shut up shop with this 5 at the back and just keep us solid, I'll be fine until the summer. At which point we find a manager that can make us a great team in attack again and make the most of what we have. I just hope beyond all hope that we are actually doing our due diligence on his replacement now.
Yeah my feelings exactly.

I want Ten Haag but think the club are fixated on Poch.
 

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Apparently the board were so impressed with the tactical masterclass that beat an absolutely shocking Spurs side, Ole and Sir Alex even celebrated with a nice dinner together. If this formation is the way forward it would’ve made sense to get someone in who’s the best in the business at it. Ole survives this whole season at least, the sheer desperation for this to work from everyone involved at the club is embarrassing really.
 

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Apparently the board were so impressed with the tactical masterclass that beat an absolutely shocking Spurs side, Ole and Sir Alex even celebrated with a nice dinner together. If this formation is the way forward it would’ve made sense to get someone in who’s the best in the business at it. Ole survives this whole season at least, the sheer desperation for this to work from everyone involved at the club is embarrassing really.
That's just twitter hearsay.
 

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Do you trust that the club are even looking? That's what makes me nervous. I just have a feeling they'll stick with Ole no matter what. Even if we miss out on top 4, it just feels they have an unreasonable determination to keep Ole.
No, I have zero expectation that the club is even sounding out potential replacements to be honest with you.

I’m hoping this big blip at the start of this season culminating with the 5-0 loss to the Scousers will have prompted somebody to do their job at the club but who knows.
 

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Bravo to our owners for not getting a top manager. Absolutely bravo.
 
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