Would you take Ten Hag at United?

[KirkDuyt]

They've conceded 2 goals in 11 matches. Scoring 37. You are hard to please

Nah they're actually amazing, they just seem bored in some games which leads them to drop points against rubbish opponents.

I just will never be able to rate Ten Hag. Even if he were to win all the remaining cl's ever. I can't get over the way he talks.

It's a me problem.

 

[VidaRed]

Jurgen Klopp
“Erik [ten Hag] is rightly regarded as one of the most exciting coaching talents in world football at the moment because of the work he does with Ajax,” Klopp said in December 2020.

“Of course, it is a wonderful club – one of the stellar names of European football – but in this moment it is clear they have outstanding leadership of the organisation and Erik is a big part of that.

“They have had to adapt in recent seasons after losing a few players to rival clubs. I remember from my own experience at Dortmund how that feels and what a challenge it is.

“How they deal with it is exceptional. The foundations of the team remain solid and they have recruited well. They have a clear identity. I love watching them, I have to say.”

Karl Heinz-Rummenigge
“First of all, I have to say, that he’s a very kind man,” the Bayern Munich chairman said in December 2018. “It’s not always easy to be on good terms with Dutchmen as Germans. We have witnessed this with Louis [van Gaal]!

“But Erik is a very pleasant guy. I also think he’s capable of doing big things as a coach and he’s proving this now.

“I think this Ajax team is the best one they’ve had for 10 years. Around the last years, they were not one of the top international teams, but he is leading them gradually back at a high level.”

Dusan Tadic
“What is the biggest thing about Erik I think is his fanaticism and that he wants to improve us every day and he really likes football and this is really great for players because always they want to help you improve.”

Andre Onana
“When we lose the ball, we must win it back immediately,” Onana told AFP in May 2019. “He is focused on that, he is always telling us that if we have control of the ball, we have the ability to push back any opponent.”

Daley Blind
“Johan Cruyff’s philosophy and spirit still flows around in this club,” Blind told BT Sport in May 2019. “Erik ten Hag is doing very well now. He wants us to play attacking football but most of all without any fear.”

Will Magee
“When it comes to Ten Hag’s favoured style of play, the Cruyffian influence is unavoidable,” Magee wrote in The Independent in 2019. “There is a reason that his approach has been dubbed ‘Total Football 2.0’.

“If the original premise of Total Football was that outfield players should be flexible, adaptable and to some degree interchangeable in their positioning as they sought to create and exploit space, Ten Hag’s side live up to their billing.

“Their full-backs, usually Nicolas Tagliafico and Joel Veltman, push high and double up as auxiliary attackers, while their wingers, David Neres and Hakim Ziyech, are equally capable of roaming in-field dangerously."

Erik Ten Hag
“I watch Bayern play every weekend,” Ten Hag told SZ in April 2019. “Since Pep, football in Germany is different, I looked at almost every training back then, and I took a lot of methodical lessons on how to transfer his philosophy to the pitch.

“I want to have possession and hurt the opponent. It’s about possession, about movement, about vertical attacking patterns, about pressing, wingers moving into the middle to make room for the full-backs. Everyone is attacking, everyone is defending.”

 

[hobbers]

I genuinely think we should riot if the club go for Rodgers or Poch instead. Heck we should be trying to hound out these fecking owners right now.

I wouldn't riot if we signed Poch, but Rodgers, absolutely. That would be the undeniable action of a board who only want to install stooges and fall guys.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Ten Hag is becoming so obvious we’re simply bound to bring in Poch once PsG fire him.

 

[VidaRed]

I genuinely think we should riot if the club go for Rodgers or Poch instead. Heck we should be trying to hound out these fecking owners right now.

We should start a online petition and send it to the board. A few million signatures ought to do it.

 

[fergosaurus]

They've conceded 2 goals in 11 matches. Scoring 37. You are hard to please

They’ve scored 37 and conceded 2 (two, not a typo). They’ll easily win the league with games to spare.

They’ve conceded 2 goals and scored 37 in 11 games.

Ten Hag is clearly the muppet's choice. If you insult him be prepared for the onslaught.

 

[altodevil]

Nah they're actually amazing, they just seem bored in some games which leads them to drop points against rubbish opponents.

I just will never be able to rate Ten Hag. Even if he were to win all the remaining cl's ever. I can't get over the way he talks.

It's a me problem.

Fair enough

 

[Caesar2290]

I know the whole United DNA thing gets a bad rap these days, thanks to our current manager, but I have to say that Erik Ten Hag is the perfect embodiment of that.

The United DNA is all about playing fast attacking football using the wingers as the main attacking outlet while promoting the youth.

The way Ten Hag sets up his current Ajax side ticks every single box. Not only that, the man is a perfectionist with a winning mentality. At the moment I struggle to see a better fit for our club who will embody both winning trophies while playing the right way.

 

[Bastian]

United board probably don't even watch football. It's up to Fergie and we all know Fergie has a horrific taste when it comes to manager (Sven... hello?)

SAF went for Pep before we ended up with Moyes. I think he also scoped out Mourinho. Not sure at what stage Ed spoke with Klopp, but it's not like the idea of hiring the best managers is completely alien to people on the board. Then there's the (admittedly far fetched) hope that people like Murtough are genuinely not just there for advice, but have some actual say in matters. In any case, there's no option out there at the moment representing immediate return. Ten Hag is no more of a risk than Rodgers, Poch or whoever else we might be linked to. The obvious difference is the far more attractive way his teams play and he's promoting youth at the same time.

It just seems like an obvious fit to me. Not to all the current players on our books, but that's chasing our tail kind of logic. It's a fit in terms of investing in youth and playing attacking football.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

He’s way too obvious for us to hire him

 

[Caesar2290]

Nah they're actually amazing, they just seem bored in some games which leads them to drop points against rubbish opponents.

I just will never be able to rate Ten Hag. Even if he were to win all the remaining cl's ever. I can't get over the way he talks.

It's a me problem.

In that case shouldn't you be hyping him up hoping that we will take him so can have a free run at the Eredevise title?

 

[Hoof the ball]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

“I want to have possession and hurt the opponent. It’s about possession, about movement, about vertical attacking patterns, about pressing, wingers moving into the middle to make room for the full-backs. Everyone is attacking, everyone is defending.”
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[Blood Mage]

We should start a online petition and send it to the board. A few million signatures ought to do it.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic but it would take more than that. We'll need the fans to storm Old Trafford again.

 

[DickDastardly]

Erik Ten Hag
“I watch Bayern play every weekend,” Ten Hag told SZ in April 2019. “Since Pep, football in Germany is different, I looked at almost every training back then, and I took a lot of methodical lessons on how to transfer his philosophy to the pitch.

“I want to have possession and hurt the opponent. It’s about possession, about movement, about vertical attacking patterns, about pressing, wingers moving into the middle to make room for the full-backs. Everyone is attacking, everyone is defending.”

What's this jibber jabber he's speaking about?

"Vertical attacking patterns" ?!

"Pressing" ?!

Yuck. We don't do this at United.

"We never give in" and "Good people, good players, they come in and do their best". That's how we roll.

Just vibes man. Get the feck out with this football stuff.

 

[TwoSheds]

Would the journos take the piss out of him mercilessly for his press conferences? I don't really care I guess as long as the players are learning something but it could make it very difficult for him if the press gang up.

 

[Caesar2290]

SAF went for Pep before we ended up with Moyes. I think he also scoped out Mourinho. Not sure at what stage Ed spoke with Klopp, but it's not like the idea of hiring the best managers is completely alien to people on the board. Then there's the (admittedly far fetched) hope that people like Murtough are genuinely not just there for advice, but have some actual say in matters. In any case, there's no option out there at the moment representing immediate return. Ten Hag is no more of a risk than Rodgers, Poch or whoever else we might be linked to. The obvious difference is the far more attractive way his teams play and he's promoting youth at the same time.

It just seems like an obvious fit to me. Not to all the current players on our books, but that's chasing our tail kind of logic. It's a fit in terms of investing in youth and playing attacking football.

I think the main selling point for the board should be that unlike someone like Conte who is going to need a good 100 Mil investment, Ten Hag will require 2 players at most to maximize the output of our player. He will require Gravenbech/De Jong and maybe Antony(not certain with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho on our flanks) and he will plug the rest of our gaps with the youth we currently have.

Laird can be our new Wing Back, Mejbri, Garner, Shortiere, etc will all feature. The man should be a Glazer's wet dream just on the amount of money they would save them by not requiring overly expensive players.

 

[Sviken]

I think the main selling point for the board should be that unlike someone like Conte who is going to need a good 100 Mil investment

these feckwads in charge of the club have already spent 500 on Ole. What's another 100 mil gonna do?

 

[KirkDuyt]

In that case shouldn't you be hyping him up hoping that we will take him so can have a free run at the Eredevise title?

Even without a trainer Ajax will still beat us to it... Frank de Boer won it 4 times in a row with them. And he's Frank De Boer.

 

[PoTMS]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

“I want to have possession and hurt the opponent. It’s about possession, about movement, about vertical attacking patterns, about pressing, wingers moving into the middle to make room for the full-backs. Everyone is attacking, everyone is defending.”

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Football is a simple game

 

[hobbers]

Laird can be our new Wing Back, Mejbri, Garner, Shortiere, etc will all feature.

Laird might but the other three won't. Getting the United job (assuming he even wants it) and keeping the job are two very different things.

I want Ten Hag for his tactical acumen and coaching ability. Not because he'll do it playing championship-tier youth products.

 

[Caesar2290]

Laird might but the other three won't. Getting the United job (assuming he even wants it) and keeping the job are two very different things.

I want Ten Hag for his tactical acumen and coaching ability. Not because he'll do it playing championship-tier youth products.

Coaching youth players is different than more experienced ones. When they break through they need a good tactical system to follow before they get their top flight experience. This is why despite us looking complete wank under LvG most of our youth products played way better than anyone expected them to.

So far all of our youth have struggled bar Greenwood who also looks like he slowed down when compared to the likes of Foden. This whole, individual brillance shtick we have going on right now is the reason that most of our younger players looks so underwhelming. Sancho and VDB are a classic example.

Also I wouldn't class Mejbri as a championship level player. With the right manager at the helm the kid will be a star in the Pogba mould.

 

[BorisManUtd]

Our board will most probably go with PL proven and hire Pochettino or Rodgers. Potter maybe not as they'll think he's not ready yet.

 

[Hoof the ball]

Football is a simple game
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Some tac-ticks.

 

[Bastian]

I think the main selling point for the board should be that unlike someone like Conte who is going to need a good 100 Mil investment, Ten Hag will require 2 players at most to maximize the output of our player. He will require Gravenbech/De Jong and maybe Antony(not certain with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho on our flanks) and he will plug the rest of our gaps with the youth we currently have.

Laird can be our new Wing Back, Mejbri, Garner, Shortiere, etc will all feature. The man should be a Glazer's wet dream just on the amount of money they would save them by not requiring overly expensive players.

I think the selling point to the board should be he'll bring back attacking football, and he'll promote youth, which is what fans want. I wouldn't go into the financials. He'll obviously not demand hundreds of millions to mount a CL challenge, but he probably won't be a happy camper yes-man either, as he's wanted by more ambitious clubs than the current Man Utd.

The main point from the supporters to the incompetent ownership should be for them to professionalise the club immediately and make sure people with brains oversee the next transition and draw up succession plans. We can't be having more Woodwardisms of "cultural reboot" or "United DNA" or any other crap like that. The next managerial hire is the litmus test for if the recent structural changes at the club have any valuable impact whatsoever.

Ten Hag won't be a short-term business as usual for the ongoing malaise - I'd be surprised if he'd want Pogba for 4-5 years on a mega deal, I'd also be surprised if he would want Maguire's wages to be doubled and thereby impossible to shift or leave out, he'd likely want players who can handle his style of play - quite a few would benefit and adapt and some would struggle. Any managerial change - when said manager is his own man - will cause some disruption to the playing squad. That's a given.

 

[VanDeBank]

I think the main selling point for the board should be that unlike someone like Conte who is going to need a good 100 Mil investment, Ten Hag will require 2 players at most to maximize the output of our player. He will require Gravenbech/De Jong and maybe Antony(not certain with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho on our flanks) and he will plug the rest of our gaps with the youth we currently have.

Laird can be our new Wing Back, Mejbri, Garner, Shortiere, etc will all feature. The man should be a Glazer's wet dream just on the amount of money they would save them by not requiring overly expensive players.

Laird as wing back? ETH doesn't play use wingbacks and Laird isn't an exceptional talent.
Gravenberch and De Jong are very, very different players. He'd love to have De Jong, but I have no clue why he would want Gravenberch when he has Bruno, Hannibal and VDB.

It's mostly the defenders he'll have a hard time making tick in his system. AWB, Maguire and DDG lack ability on the ball. Ajax wouldn't take any of them.
I don't see him wasting funds on Anthony when he would have Greenwood, Sancho and Amad and we need a DM + the above sorting out.

 

[Bastian]

Laird as wing back? ETH doesn't play use wingbacks and Laird isn't an exceptional talent.
Gravenberch and De Jong are very, very different players. He'd love to have De Jong, but I have no clue why he would want Gravenberch when he has Bruno, Hannibal and VDB.

It's mostly the defenders he'll have a hard time making tick in his system. AWB, Maguire and DDG lack ability on the ball. Ajax wouldn't take any of them.
I don't see him wasting funds on Anthony when he would have Greenwood, Sancho and Amad and we need a DM + the above sorting out.

Tell that to the Swansea fans.

 

[VanDeBank]

Tell that to the Swansea fans.

You think an Ajax man would play 3 at the back at United to accommodate a kid that's doing well in the championship? He'd rather give up his left nut.

 

[Adnan]

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Tell that to the Swansea fans.

Laird, Elanga, Amad, Hannibal etc will all be of use to him IMO.

Also (assuming he's appointed) don't be surprised if he brings in a keeper on the national minimum wage who will help him in the initial build up phase on the ball.

 

[Sviken]

I think the selling point to the board should be he'll bring back attacking football, and he'll promote youth, which is what fans want. I wouldn't go into the financials. He'll obviously not demand hundreds of millions to mount a CL challenge, but he probably won't be a happy camper yes-man either, as he's wanted by more ambitious clubs than the current Man Utd.

The main point from the supporters to the incompetent ownership should be for them to professionalise the club immediately and make sure people with brains oversee the next transition and draw up succession plans. We can't be having more Woodwardisms of "cultural reboot" or "United DNA" or any other crap like that. The next managerial hire is the litmus test for if the recent structural changes at the club have any valuable impact whatsoever.

Ten Hag won't be a short-term business as usual for the ongoing malaise - I'd be surprised if he'd want Pogba for 4-5 years on a mega deal, I'd also be surprised if he would want Maguire's wages to be doubled and thereby impossible to shift or leave out, he'd likely want players who can handle his style of play - quite a few would benefit and adapt and some would struggle. Any managerial change - when said manager is his own man - will cause some disruption to the playing squad. That's a given.

No top manager is gonna be a yes man. Zidane left his beloved Madrid twice after a dispute with Perez. Guardiola left Barcelona and Bayern because of the same thing. Conte, we all know him. Tuchel had disputes with PSG and Dortmund. Klopp seems to be the only legitimately chill guy.

 

[Womp]

I think the main selling point for the board should be that unlike someone like Conte who is going to need a good 100 Mil investment, Ten Hag will require 2 players at most to maximize the output of our player. He will require Gravenbech/De Jong and maybe Antony(not certain with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho on our flanks) and he will plug the rest of our gaps with the youth we currently have.

Laird can be our new Wing Back, Mejbri, Garner, Shortiere, etc will all feature. The man should be a Glazer's wet dream just on the amount of money they would save them by not requiring overly expensive players.

I'm sure Ten Hag would love Sancho. He's an extremely technical player.

 

[stefan92]

No top manager is gonna be a yes man. Zidane left his beloved Madrid twice after a dispute with Perez. Guardiola left Barcelona and Bayern because of the same thing. Conte, we all know him. Tuchel had disputes with PSG and Dortmund. Klopp seems to be the only legitimately chill guy.

Klopp is the only manager of those you mentioned who is ready to play the long game, developing teams slowly. Everyone else wants success as fast as possible and makes certain demands.

 

[Adnan]

I'm sure Ten Hag would love Sancho. He's an extremely technical player.

He would if we look at how he coaches his team. We have wide forwards at the club that he'll probably think to himself he's won the lottery.

If Amad had been under him at Ajax, I'm pretty confident the youngster would be much further along in his development.

 

[pratyush_utd]

He would if we look at how he coaches his team. We have wide forwards at the club that he'll probably think to himself he's won the lottery.

If Amad had been under him at Ajax, I'm pretty confident the youngster would be much further along in his development.

Amad development plan is a weird one. We blocked Atalanta request for loan and then made him play in U23. Makes you wonder why we even bought him when our finances were tight.

 

[M16Red]

Ajax have turned it around after some intense pressure. His setup also looks similar to what we have. Would be shrewd choice for us

And that ladies and gentlemen, is how you play against a low block

Get him in NOW

I’m telling you right now if we dont make a move City will replace Pep with Ten-Haag in a season or two,

We need to do everything in our power to make this guy our new manager, Night and Day between Ole & Ten-Haag

I've watched Ajax a couple of times and every time I'm like "ah this is how you play the 4-2-3-1"

 

[nainaisson]

Our board will most probably go with PL proven and hire Pochettino or Rodgers. Potter maybe not as they'll think he's not ready yet.

Can't blame them. No EPL club wants to risk another Sarri.

 

[pratyush_utd]

Since he makes too much sense, I am 100% sure we wont go for him. We hardly do things which makes sense.

 

[arthurka]

If we are not in for him we are idiots.

 

[sewey89]

He’s so clearly the next one that’ll be regarded as one of the best coaches in the world. Not a chance our board hires him

 

[Chairman Steve]

Getting him as manager seems way too good to be true at the moment.

By no means is he a cert but we’ve got to try the exciting, upcoming ’hipster’ coach route at some point. He could fail miserably of course but that’s the risk we‘ve got to take if we do. Doing it for Ajax and doing it for United are different worlds.

 

[Flytan]

Getting him as manager seems way too good to be true at the moment.

By no means is he a cert but we’ve got to try the exciting, upcoming ’hipster’ coach route at some point. He could fail miserably of course but that’s the risk we‘ve got to take if we do. Doing it for Ajax and doing it for United are different worlds.

Yeah I've rationalized appointing him/even potter with "it's better to try than to not do anything". I'd rather the club fail miserably trying to appoint someone with a future instead of just watching the atrocity that is happening now.