I'm still waiting to see Conte do a Mourinho at Spurs
Would you take Ten Hag at United?
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My club would never.
Because picking a manager based on what he has achieved in the past has done wonders for United...
True except we still have Hendo who may be up to scratch with what’s required from a modern goalkeeper.
Ajax has won the CL four times while United only three, so some will say that Ajax is a big club, too.
I'm probably the least biased Feyenoord supporter in world history mate.
Ten Hag is another story.
Ten hag will be a risky experiment,
Koeman also performed wonderful at Ajax until he got exposed at Everton and Barcelona.
Ernesto Valverde is my desired choice to replace Ole
Koeman also performed wonderful at Ajax until he got exposed at Everton and Barcelona.
Ernesto Valverde is my desired choice to replace Ole
Please let it be him and not Pochettino or Brendan Rodgers 
Wernee + Havertz struggling led to Chelsea going for Tuchel.
VDB not getting game time can lead to Ten Hag if our owners watch football once in a while.
Wernee + Havertz struggling led to Chelsea going for Tuchel.
VDB not getting game time can lead to Ten Hag if our owners watch football once in a while.
He bought two from Utrecht (Labyad and Klaiber - both rotational pieces), and one from Bayern II at Utrecht (Streider). As far as making due or needing signings, I think apart from a true defensive Matic-like DM, really doesn't need too much more.
If he would raid anyone from Ajax, it would probably be Onana, Gravenberch (squad player) and/or Antony (sheer talent alone), although given our depth in attack and GK positions, probably wouldn't prioritize either of them. I would also say Alvarez but I don't think he's good enough for this level. He could also make do with AWB unless he suddenly stops progressing at all in his attacking play (although could still probably upgrade him).
He does like to give freedom of inverting (I remember Ziyech exploiting this to great advantage moving through RW, LW, ST, and CAM in the same game on a multitude of occasions), and while he does rely on FBs to give width, much of the crosses into the box are done by the wide men, who also have the freedom to cut inside. Think Sancho would be devastating here, just because of his ability to both come inside and act as a wide playmaker, my one concern being that he's more of the Mata mold and less so as a true winger. As far as Pogba goes, if he continues his lack of work rate at the double pivot, he wont work in his system, would ultimately be replaced, by Donnie if ETH deems fit, or someone else. In my mind, Cavani would be a much better fit into his system just overall with his non-scoring contributions, but I think Ronnie would have a field day with all the crosses into the box against the low block. So with all that said, big game lineup would be
Cavani
Sancho/Rashford-Bruno-Greenwood
Donnie/PP-Matic clone
Shaw-Maguire/Varane/Lindelof/Bailly (take 2)-AWB
DDG
Low block game
Ronnie
Rashford-Bruno/Sancho-Greenwood
Bruno/PP-McTom/Donnie
Shaw-Maguire/Varane/Lindelof/Bailly (take 2)-AWB
DDG
As for the bolded part of your post, this is just strictly opinion, but I do think the level of critique Ajax get by simply being the biggest team in Holland and thus the expectation of needing to win every week and needing to the win league every year; plus the additional expectations of attacking football and incorporating the youth while doing so, and being able to achieving those expectations pretty damn well, would be enough proof of his mental fortitude.
The one thing that stuck with me, I dont know if it did for anyone else, but it was his willingness to take off Alvarez and bring on a more attack minded CM in Klaasen at HT. Loved the fact that he was going for it, even though BVB had 10 men, now THAT is United DNA.
His stock seems to be rising more and more by the week and his reputation in the media is going up, which probably means we’ve got more chance of going for him, let’s be honest, our board probably hasn’t heard of him until a few weeks ago.
He’s the one I really want, but I can’t see it happening. Have there been any reputable links that we’d consider him?
He’s the one I really want, but I can’t see it happening. Have there been any reputable links that we’d consider him?
The below is a vid from August 2020, where he's interviewed about his coaching style, where he's asked to analyse some of the transitions his team were involved in among other things.. But ten Hag also mentions the Ajax DNA and about playing attacking football and goes onto say that it's important Ajax don't play one way and are open to outside strategies as well, if the club wants to make a mark outside of the Netherlands. And that basically shows why he's successful, because he combines possession football with fast transition football at times depending on who the opponent is. He's a adaptable coach that looks to have a way of playing the game which is structurally strong both on and off the ball. It's like what he says, 'everyone attacks and everyone defends'. It's particularly interesting to hear him talk about off the ball movement.
If we are smart we should get him on pre contract for next season. Give Ole this season and then part ways at the end of the season. I would have preferred this season but it seems not possible anymore.
Please for once, plan ahead.
Please for once, plan ahead.
Yeah, that'd go down well, tell the players that the incumbent manager is leaving, giving him zero authority for the rest of the season!
Do we really need to announce? I mean we can have discussion and keep under wraps. It has been done before.
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Remind me who was manager when United brought Donny Van De Beek from Ajax?
Fairly certain our board are aware who Ten Hag is....
With The amount of leaks in this club, do you really think it wouldn't be public news within weeks??
Maybe but it takes something else to manage United. He could of course be the next SAF.
Or the next big failure.
Klaassen, Kudus/Berghuis, Gravenberch are arguably all AM's originally. It was a very ballsy move even with an extra man.
Sounds good. Does he have the mental.strength to manage United though?
Not saying he doesn't but is is a big factor.
No one is a guaranteed succes, and Ole is a failure.
When you look at the risks and potential rewards, Ten Hag is probably the best bet for the next season.
You might be right. And I mean that in the sense that I have no idea.
As long as we don't appoint Rogers.
What he's doing at Ajax is immense. The pressure at Ajax is huge, the Netherlands is relatively small but how they think about football is insane, the expectations for both the national team and top 3 clubs and particularly Ajax is huge. They want to be leading when it comes to innovation, promoting talent and attacking football.
At Ajax you must win, and win whilst playing good/great football or everyone is unhappy. It is completely unlike anything in England, Ten Hag is the first manager in a long time who has been able to and perform in Europe as well. He didnt get off to a super start and has worked incredibly hard to get here, so yeah I'd say yes.
There's only one way to find out mate, but the YouTube video I've posted in my previous post does suggest the pressure won't phase him. And the Dutch pundits/ex players are extremely critical in Holland from what I've seen, along with a raucous crowd in the Amsterdam Arena, who expect good football as well as results. The pressure is pretty big already imo.
Sounds like the ethos of a certain manager
"Ahhh but clubs don't have a way or a DNA' - Redcafe loons.
Best Coach practically suitable for us...
Whats wrong with the way he speaks? I've seen 2 people criticise it quite a bit now
I think it must be to do with his accent but from what I've heard from him in interviews, he sounds fine to me.
Out of all the options being mentioned, I dislike this option the least. I also like that he's not going to move before the end of the season, which gives Ole a last chance to prove himself.
That's the present managers state right now anyway.
Kind of how I feel, seems like we would be taking a slight chance as I do worry about anyone coming from the Dutch league, but I do think if we want an up and coming, progressive manager then we have to take a chance on someone before someone else does.
He'd be an extremely interesting appointment, that is for sure. I think he'd get it in a heartbeat if he was willing to leave Ajax mid-season, but that doesn't appear to be likely. So he's only really an option if we stick with Ole until the summer? Doubt he'll leave Ajax when they are doing so well in the Champions League.
Another Championship and good Champions League campaign (whereever that may end, also depending on draws etc) and he will have pretty much maxed out Ajax..
Would love him to stay for as long as he likes though, he has proved to be able to rebuild a team.
This. They seem to have zero knowledge or intel to inform them of what is happening accross Europe.
Don't do it to yourself guys, it'll be Rodgers and we all know it.
fecking hell. Let’s pass on a manager because of the way he speaks in his (presumably) 2nd language..? 
Well, let's judge Laird as a RB when he actually starts playing that position.
Onana already has a precontract with Inter. Every competent manager would sign a DM. He'd definitely need a RB too.
Half is an understatement. Of the team that played Spurs in '19 only Mazraoui, Blind and Tadic remain.
100% this. ETH will go to one of our rivals, for sure. Rodgers would be an upgrade on Ole, but I really thing Ten Hag is the one we need
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