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Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Andycoleno9

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Basically, owners don't care for this season. All what Ole needs is win then and there (which this team can do wirhout manager) and that is it.
If he finishes 4th, we will keep him.
But now is perfectly obvious; he is staying till the end of the season
 

therealtboy

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Usually there will be lot of leaks if they are close to sack. Shame we didn't see any.

Ole really is a lucky guy.
You saw many leaks after the Pool game but he wasn't sacked so it doesn't matter if there are rumours or leaks or noise. We'll know when we know, I have a strong feeling he'll be sacked tomorrow.
 

DJ_21

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Just been watching a few clips of Ralf Rangnick and he is definitely a man who knows what he’s talking about and has a football brain… he talks about managers/coaches having a clear way of playing and then getting it through to the team and having the right coaches that can develop the players… he goes on about mane, Salah and firminho and says none of them before they joined liverpool were pressing machines… klopp and his staff made them the players they are today! Why are we not going after this guy… he wouldn’t even want the full time job neither he’d be happy with caretaker till the end of the season but what I keep seeing is that he’d want to move upstairs to DOF… why not make this happen? We’ve been looking for a DOF for ages but isn’t that now murtough role? This guy will get us playing great football for the rest of the season and then we can bring in ten Haag to carry that on next season! It’s a no brainier!
 

minoo-utd

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Better not to wait for this board to do any action after what happened. I think they have an agreement with Ole that there will be no sacking until after the season over. They just don't care about anything.
 

Garethw

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Fans needs to act now to save the club from further embarrassment. The board won’t care unless it starts to affect them personally. Stop paying them. Stop buying tickets and merchandise for few weeks. Those who already purchased season tickets, plan a walk out at 60 min or something. Fly an helicopter over OT. Let them feel the heat.
The OT crowds won’t walk out though. They clapped Ole off the field yesterday after one of the worst schoolings I’ve ever seen.

Ole has us looking conference level, yet he gets clapped and cheered off the pitch. These fans are just as harmful as the board.
 

sewey89

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So let’s take everything we’re reading as gospel for the time being.. There is an opening for us to appoint Rangnick as manager until the summer and then move him to DOF and bring a long term appointment in? He’d be able to potentially get a target or 2 in in January and would be able to have a say on who gets the job long term.

Why aren’t our board seeing this as a really good opportunity ffs?
 

Compton22

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Don't know the quality of the source but I sincerely hope not
 

Micky Targaryen

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This issue might be the first time that I’m truly disappointed and furious at the board. Past issues like rising debt levels, not refurbishing Old Trafford, hiring Moyes, never really frustrated me as a supporter. Those are serious issues too but it never bothered me. But this. This whole dithering about and cluelessness on not sacking Ole yet. Waking up everyday and still seeing Ole is still our manager and wondering what the absolute feck has to happen for them to finally sack him. This really takes the cake for me.
 

Hisha

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The OT crowds won’t walk out though. They clapped Ole off the field yesterday after one of the worst schoolings I’ve ever seen.

Ole has us looking conference level, yet he gets clapped and cheered off the pitch. These fans are just as harmful as the board.
Yea, I saw that and was very angry. Even the fans of spurs and Norwich has higher demands than our fans.
 

ArcticCircleZizou

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Sad state of affairs for sure. Still have friends in their 40’s, clinging on to OGS as he’s the reincarnation of SAF, and that he just needs more time. Delusional doesn’t even cover it.

Unfortunately he’ll stay until 4 place is out of reach, leaving behind a total wreck for the next one that eventually comes in.
 

Offside

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Caught Offside are the lowest of the low yet in this thread they’re taken as gospel. Shouldn’t even be getting posted.
 

Delano

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So Ole's going back to a more attacking formation to save his job?

Can I ask, what are our Football Director and Technical Director doing? We've been told they want to play "attacking football" across every age group. Whilst they lead on football matters.

So, if we don't have a manager that plays the "United way", if results are appalling, and if the players the manager bought don't get a game. Then what part of his job is Ole meeting in their eyes?

So, they're either living in the clouds thinking this "will pass", or have the same power Brands does at Everton. Zero.

I can't help but think this whole situation reinforces the belief those jobs were to appease the fans. With zero actual authority for situations like this. We keep hearing about Ed and the board not wanting to change. What about those two? Surely they should be sounding out replacements that fit their vision if they have an ounce of authority?
 

Rajma

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The OT crowds won’t walk out though. They clapped Ole off the field yesterday after one of the worst schoolings I’ve ever seen.

Ole has us looking conference level, yet he gets clapped and cheered off the pitch. These fans are just as harmful as the board.
I hate it too but you can’t blame people for their own views though I think the mood is clearly shifting at the ground as things are really bad at the moment. Yesterday I stayed till the very end of the game only so that I could damage this brand by making my feelings known loud and clear and we all know that Glazers only care about the brand/perception/sponsor money and clear voice is needed from the fans for any change to happen, especially, during high profile games.
 

Blood Mage

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You saw many leaks after the Pool game but he wasn't sacked so it doesn't matter if there are rumours or leaks or noise. We'll know when we know, I have a strong feeling he'll be sacked tomorrow.
Daniel Taylor is one of the most reliable journos and he says the club still back Ole. I think he'll need to lose against Watford before the club come to their senses to be honest.
 

Keefy18

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Very much staunchly supported Ole... but Leicester was the final straw and Liverpool was the nail in the coffin... yesterday was as one poster put it like feckin a corpse!

The board won't move him on though, not until top 4 is mathematically impossible I reckon because they've no plan in place at all currently.
 

Flytan

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I know we're desperate for Solskjaer to feck off, but I don't think appointing Rodgers is the solution.
Yeah but at least he will be easy to fire. At this point the club is so fecked from nepotism(board and fans) for ole the only thing I care about is removing him as manager. Club will be fecked for years anyways if he stays the season. There will be a mass exodus. Young players are having their careers ruined by him. May as well roll the dice
 

sewey89

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I do think Rodgers will be our next manager. I don’t trust CaughtOffside at all though
 

Garethw

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Then our good players will leave, we will be midtable and the only players who will join will be midtable level players. It could get a lot worse.
This is the worry isn’t it. Bruno is 27 and I can see him pushing for a move if we don’t get CL next season. Pogba and Cavani are almost nailed on to leave as is Lingard. That’s a lot of players to replace on top of what we currently need (2x CM’s, right back etc). If they stick with Ole we could very quickly become a mid table team.
 

Kevin

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So all the doomsday scenarios RAWK posters presented back in the days about “once ferguson leaves they are going to be doomed/fked/etcetc” turned out to be true...

We are the new Liverpool, expect 20 more years of mediocrity.
 

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It’s really pointless keeping him in the job any longer. He’s lost the dressing room now that’s pretty evident after what we witnessed yesterday. It will get to the point some of these players will issue the board an ultimatum, either Ole goes or they do.
 

Yakuza_devils

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Can I ask, what are our Football Director and Technical Director doing? We've been told they want to play "attacking football" across every age group. Whilst they lead on football matters.
Murtough and Fletcher have zero power over first team. First team is under the manager - Ole. Murtough and Ole separately report directly to Ed the banker.

Strange but it is what it is.
 

Dominos

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It pains me to say this but I think he will survived another humiliation defeat by City. So far the board say nothing and business as usual. I have come to a point where I think if we were to lose to Watford he will still be safe.

Jose got sacked because he lost the players. Ole hasn't and he still has a chance to get 4th place trophy. The incompetent board will only sack him once it's mathematically impossible.
He's definitely lost the players on some level. Maybe they don't hate his man management as much as Mourinho but they have no trust or faith in him. We're a top 4 team who has just signed Ronaldo Sancho and Varane and we've somehow got worse, we're literally bottom half in terms of xPTS, performances cannot be this bad unless the manager has lost the dressing room.

All the leaked stories of dressing room unrest after Liverpool is evidence enough, it's incredibly unlikely that they're all fabricated.
 

Garethw

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I hate it too but you can’t blame people for their own views though I think the mood is clearly shifting at the ground as things are really bad at the moment. Yesterday I stayed till the very end of the game only so that I could damage this brand by making my feelings known loud and clear and we all know that Glazers only care about the brand/perception/sponsor money and clear voice is needed from the fans for any change to happen, especially, during high profile games.
Ole the person and Ole the manager need to be separated in the minds of a lot of these fans.

If I am doing a terrible job, customers will complain about my work even if they think from a personal point of view I’m a really nice guy. I think any employee in any job would expect that.

I love the passion and commitment of our match going fans. They are incredible. But applauding and cheering the manager after yesterdays humiliation just sends the message that they are accepting of mediocrity.
 
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