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Does he speak English? Valverde, I mean.The fact Stones, the mouthpiece of the board, reported that Valverde story, makes me believe he'll get the job indeed and it's not just paper talk. The board must have briefed it to prepare the fans for the news.
I agree that we need to change the model, it was more a curiosity as to why consult an interim on any player signed as he wont be here beyond the summer.Maybe Jamie Jackson threw that in there for a laugh, but I think we should go ahead and sign players, if we feel there's players out there who will improve the team/squad. We have the setup to do that and shouldn't rely on the manager for everything like at other clubs.
Stones says in his article that he does speak English actually.Does he speak English? Valverde, I mean.
Stones is debatable.
Okay, thanks. I don't know much about Valverde.Stones says in his article that he does speak English actually.
There's no reason not to involve him really, is there? He obviously shouldn't have a heavy hand in recruitment but if we've appointed him (albeit temporarily) to provide a given amount of football expertise then you might as well have him at the table. Would be weird to have a guy who won two La Liga titles at Barca hanging around the club and not ask him for his opinion on what needs doing and who would be a good fit.I agree that we need to change the model, it was more a curiosity as to why consult an interim on any player signed as he wont be hear beyond the summer.
Agreed. I would prefer we not take the kick the can down the road approach but if it is to be an interim appointment he certainly fits the profile of an established veteran coach with the trophies on the shelf that should command respect from the players. The upside is that this does increase the likelihood of my preferred candidate, ETH, getting the job.Valverde probably isn't a bad fit for this group tbh
Like @sullydnl , I also feel it would be beneficial to for us to consult someone like Valverde on the way forward mate.I agree that we need to change the model, it was more a curiosity as to why consult an interim on any player signed as he wont be here beyond the summer.
The problem with just any interim is that they may become permanent in the board eyes if they will stabilize the situation (which any half decent coach will do with this group). If it’s interim similar to Rangnick who would be here clearly just for a short gig then that’s fine.What I find hilarious is that many are turning up their noses at candidates for the interim role, and it seems they won't be happy unless we bring in a interim on the level of Klopp or Guardiola.
There's no reason not to involve him really, is there? He obviously shouldn't have a heavy hand in recruitment but if we've appointed him (albeit temporarily) to provide a given amount of football expertise then you might as well have him at the table. Would be weird to have a guy who won two La Liga titles at Barca hanging around the club and not ask him for his opinion on what needs doing and who would be a good fit.
I'm all for having actual football men involved in these choices, but it would mean we'd have to get a manager in next summer who would want the same profile of player as Valverde, now that type of managerial continuity is what I'd love to see us aim for but my faith in this board implementing that kind of structure is minimal at best.Like @sullydnl , I also feel it would be beneficial to for us to consult someone like Valverde on the way forward mate.
He's flexible and I think that's what we need now. I suspect he'll take the conservative approach but hopefully by the end of the season most of our players will have grasped the positional and zonal requirements at the very least, which would provide a platform for whomever the club decide to appoint.What kind of manager is valverde? Is he an attack minded manager? He won some pretty high scoring games for Barca, 6-1 against Sevilla, 5-1 against Madrid and 4-2 against spurs are 3 that I remember. The only thing I don’t like about interim managers are if we make the same mistake and appoint him permanently if he wins a trophy or goes on a good run. I’d be happy if we got him as interim but then agreed a deal with one of our first choices to take over at end of the season… poch/ten Haag.
That's a good point. I totally missed that Valverde was available and I could see him bring a bit of experience to the likes of Murtough. Particularly when you look at an extremely structured club like Athletic Bilbao, they are not the biggest club around but they know exactly what they are doing.Like @sullydnl , I also feel it would be beneficial to for us to consult someone like Valverde on the way forward mate.
I would hope they get to bring in at least 1 or 2 coaches.Is the interim going to get to bring at least one of his staff with him? Or are we sticking the poor guy with Ole’s coaching staff?
Absolutely mate. His experience working within a well structured setup at Bilbao and his experience at the highest level, has the potential to be a good short term option and also has the potential to provide valuable input to those working on the football side.That's a good point. I totally missed that Valverde was available and I could see him bring a bit of experience to the likes of Murtough. Particularly when you look at an extremely structured club like Athletic Bilbao, they are not the biggest club around but they know exactly what they are doing.
Possibly but honestly the money we've spend, the wages we pay...the Glazer's manage this club with all the intuition of a horse looking at a cabbage but the fact is we spend money like we've ran out of toilet paper people STILL hark back to this idea we're tight. I don't get it.Wouldn't surprise me if we give it to Valverde and then wait for Poch to be sacked because the second they go out of the CL he's toast. Save ourselves compensation is the name of the game in Glazer HQ.
I think the Jackson article is a mistake where he said Valverde is sounding out players, he probably meant he’s putting together a staff for a potential hire.Is the interim going to get to bring at least one of his staff with him? Or are we sticking the poor guy with Ole’s coaching staff?
To some degree that is what we need from an interim. He is definitely capable of adding structure and making sure that we finish the season in the top 4 but he is not going to wow anyone so the board get over excited and give it to him full time.Uninspiring as a Glazer.
I don't want an interim. I want Poch if Ten Hag doesn't want to leave his comfort zone for us.To some degree that is what we need from an interim. He is definitely capable of adding structure and making sure that we finish the season in the top 4 but he is not going to wow anyone so the board get over excited and give it to him full time.
Yeah that sounds more likelyI think the Jackson article is a mistake where he said Valverde is sounding out players, he probably meant he’s putting together a staff for a potential hire.
I thought it was more of a case of Messi didn't like him, so he sacked him.I dont know about Valverde. Didnt Barca get rid of him because he wasnt playing attractive football.
I've no doubt his info is correct that Valverde has been spoken to for interim role but at the same time you have to be wary of the official line from the club, they'll release the narrative that suits them. They may be trying to cover themselves from looking bad if they fail to land Poch, and may be trying to suggest to Poch/PSG that we have alternatives options if they don't make it easy for us.The fact Stones, the mouthpiece of the board, reported that Valverde story, makes me believe he'll get the job indeed and it's not just paper talk. The board must have briefed it to prepare the fans for the news.
Seriously I am not and have repeatedly said I want us to get a permanent manager in, I hate wasting so much time on caretakers and interim appointments but if the board are dead set then Valverde makes more sense than letting an unqualified club legend dick around for a few more months. You say you want Poch if we cannot get ETH but we don't even know if that is possible, I get that he isn't going to throw his hat into the ring during a press conference but his comments today were pretty emphatic about loving life at PSG and they are of course more than wealthy enough to tell us to feck off regardless of how much compensation we offer. I would rather we look at other permanent candidates if Poch and ETH are not available, taking a punt on someone like Potter would be preferable to an interim but we know our board are way too risk averse for something like that.I don't want an interim. I want Poch if Ten Hag doesn't want to leave his comfort zone for us.
Seriously, how are you people so happy to write off the season in November?
Or maybe we really are after ten hag.Wouldn't surprise me if we give it to Valverde and then wait for Poch to be sacked because the second they go out of the CL he's toast. Save ourselves compensation is the name of the game in Glazer HQ.