Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

[Abraxas]

Bloody hell, of course Valverde is a decent appointment. Who are these amazing managers queuing up round the block for an interim appointment?

I'm afraid we can't approach it with an inflated sense of what we are actually offering, yes we're Man Utd but it's a caretaker role. It's going to be somebody with a bit to prove, that is absolutely obvious - why would someone in the peak of their career that's won loads recently and is without flaw take on an appointment where they're a caretaker for a few months. Just total nonsense. Top managers in their prime come with some kind of ego that they're the main man, they don't want to play second fiddle to Ten Hag and Poch. That's why you get someone that sees this as a shop window. Maybe they've cocked things up lately despite doing some good things, or maybe they haven't managed for a while.

If we can get a Rangnick or Valverde that are very experienced, creditable names we will have done a very solid job. I'd prefer the former but if he's unconvinced then we can't fanny around either, the sooner it's sorted the better chance we rectify our league form.

 

[roseguy64]

Know next to nothing about the last guy but happy with either of the first two. Wonder who are the other four candidates shortlisted. I don't think there is anything at all in the Gattuso one.

Meant Rudi Garcia not Javi Gracia. My bad.

 

[croadyman]

Meant Rudi Garcia not Javi Gracia. My bad.

Still know nothing at all, just saw his name being touted by Mitten yesterday

 

[roseguy64]

Still know nothing at all, just saw his name being touted by Mitten yesterday

That's exactly why I'd be fine with him.

 

[VidaRed]

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[Blood Mage]

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I wish more pundits had made this point prior to Ole getting the job.

 

[Waynne]

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Well duh. Carrick, McKenna, Phelan should all leave when the next manager comes in.

The club structure from top to bottom has to feature best in class personnel. Money's not an issue so go get the very best. Simple.
But with United the easiest decisions are often the most difficult.

 

[largelyworried]

Valverde would be a surprisingly good choice. Experienced enough to steady the ship and give us a chance of top four, but probably no one's idea of a long-term replacement, so unlikely to muddy the waters as far as summer appointments are concerned. Bit like when Rafa went to Chelsea.

 

[SeanyC]

Does Valverde even speak English? If he doesn’t then I can see Carrick or McKenna staying on to help out

 

[BuzzKillington]

@do.ob What was Favre like when he was managing Dortmund and do you think he’d be suitable for the role.

 

[Freak]

Anyone knows how Valverde's Barca team played? Style of play etc etc?

 

[hammerfadl]

Valverde could be very interesting as a interim manager. But not sure what quality of managers one can expect to get hold of as interim tbh. Most of the higher tier managers probably want jobs where the club actually want you for more than just a placeholder.

I wonder how a manager like Diego Martinez would do in United.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

The good thing about having an interim interim (Carrick), an interim and then a permanent manager is that we get THREE new manager bounces. Genius.

 

[BuzzKillington]

Anyone knows how Valverde's Barca team played? Style of play etc etc?

Defensive and relying on the individual attacking brilliance of Messi and a couple of others. Was largely successful but bottled it at crunch points.

 

[Zoo]

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[Mainoldo]

Anyone knows how Valverde's Barca team played? Style of play etc etc?

Boring af. Got boo’d by the Barca fans and it seemed like toucher he was there for so long.

But by all means I’m sure it will be a different story for us.

 

[Zoo]

Boring af. Got boo’d by the Barca fans and it seemed like toucher he was there for so long.

But by all means I’m sure it will be a different story for us.

Barca fans will always moan when they don’t see pure tiki taka. They are snobs.

Speaks English, good age, not too long out of the game, had success, used to managing big names. If we can’t get a permanent manager then Valverde would be a fine choice as interim.

 

[Bestietom]

Bloody hell, of course Valverde is a decent appointment. Who are these amazing managers queuing up round the block for an interim appointment?

I'm afraid we can't approach it with an inflated sense of what we are actually offering, yes we're Man Utd but it's a caretaker role. It's going to be somebody with a bit to prove, that is absolutely obvious - why would someone in the peak of their career that's won loads recently and is without flaw take on an appointment where they're a caretaker for a few months. Just total nonsense. Top managers in their prime come with some kind of ego that they're the main man, they don't want to play second fiddle to Ten Hag and Poch. That's why you get someone that sees this as a shop window. Maybe they've cocked things up lately despite doing some good things, or maybe they haven't managed for a while.

If we can get a Rangnick or Valverde that are very experienced, creditable names we will have done a very solid job. I'd prefer the former but if he's unconvinced then we can't fanny around either, the sooner it's sorted the better chance we rectify our league form.

Having now qualified might give us a better chance of getting someone in soon.

 

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Jeez.. look at all the other options he has to turn his nose up at the Glazers.

 

[dove]

Barca fans will always moan when they don’t see pure tiki taka. They are snobs.

Speaks English, good age, not too long out of the game, had success, used to managing big names. If we can’t get a permanent manager then Valverde would be a fine choice as interim.

He would be fine as an interim for sure, hardly any better options to choose from. The worry is that if he does alright, he will get a permanent role knowing our clueless board. Though I suppose it's the same with any interim we will appoint.

 

[Mainoldo]

Barca fans will always moan when they don’t see pure tiki taka. They are snobs.

Speaks English, good age, not too long out of the game, had success, used to managing big names. If we can’t get a permanent manager then Valverde would be a fine choice as interim.

I have to wonder what most of the fan base want. We moan about LVG and Jose’s style. Big up Ole for allowing freedo then want to revert back to an unliked type.

It’s not just the fans the players hated him too. All the stuff you mentioned is not important if the play is to build a team designed to last through more than one manager. Considering the plan is interim, interim, perm. It makes zero sense.


I found a video as most of you jabroni’s never know what your talking about but always have a lot to say.

 

[Ted Lasso]

Jeez.. look at all the other options he has to turn his nose up at the Glazers.

He's a smart guy. You don't just interview for the company, you have to make sure your immediate reporting structure is the kind of management and leadership that can help you reach your potential and be happy.

Woodward, Judge, the Glazers...they've shown themselves to be awful in the most dramatic and unbelievable ways. Should be a big turn off for anyone that doesn't have an inherent love for the club - like Mourinho and Ole.

Jose and Ole are a curious case of that leadership structure failing the manager in essentially polar opposite ways.

 

[Zoo]

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Better than Brentan

 

[Zoo]

I have to wonder what most of the fan base want. We moan about LVG and Jose’s style. Big up Ole for allowing freedo then want to revert back to an unliked type.

It’s not just the fans the players hated him too. All the stuff you mentioned is not important if the play is to build a team designed to last through more than one manager. Considering the plan is interim, interim, perm. It makes zero sense.


I found a video as most of you jabroni’s never know what your talking about but always have a lot to say.

I’d say most fans want a competent manager to navigate the team through to the end of the season if needed. I don’t remember the players hating him, one of his strengths is said to be his ability to manage personalities. Barca is a political club with numerous agendas from boardroom downwards.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....lona/2020/01/14/5e1dfafb46163f498e8b45dc.html

 

[AneRu]

It looks like we're going for the interim manager with the best CV available right now.. Rangnick has never managed a big club. Valverde has just won 2 league titles on the bounce with Barca and had them top of the league when he was sacked in his 3rd season.

So he had 2 bad legs in the latter stages of the champions league (I suppose he gets no credit for reaching the semi final in the first place or winning the first leg against Liverpool?), and that's justfication for not giving him the job over less qualified candidates.. Of all the possible interim candidates you'd prefer over Valverde, how many have had more CL success?

Agree with this, people are judging him on the wrong metrics and condemning him for failing at levels we haven't reached in a decade. Yeah he bottled a CL semi, when did we last reach a CL semi to worry about that?

Plus as interim his remit would be to salvage the season whilst the club takes time to work on a plan out of this self inflicted mess. Surely he is more than good enough for that?

One worry I have about all this is the absence of our DOF and Technical Director in these discussions. It's all the board this and the board that but we now have a leader of the football side and what is he doing to ensure that we get the best candidate for the permanent role and we are taken care of in the interim because if Woodward and Judge dominate the process again we are doomed.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

Well duh. Carrick, McKenna, Phelan should all leave when the next manager comes in.

The club structure from top to bottom has to feature best in class personnel. Money's not an issue so go get the very best. Simple.
But with United the easiest decisions are often the most difficult.

If Woodward employs the best, he will be out of a job as his incompetency will be exposed. This is why he hires mates (literally he hired his University mates). People think because he is in charge of the biggest club in the world he must be competent, but evidence of the last 10 years proves otherwise.

 

[Idxomer]

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I would prefer Garcia to Valverde.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I dont know about Valverde. Didnt Barca get rid of him because he wasnt playing attractive football.

That went well.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Give it to Brucey baby

He looked ill at Newcastle, this job would finish him off.

 

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[antsmithmk]

Bloody hell, of course Valverde is a decent appointment. Who are these amazing managers queuing up round the block for an interim appointment?

I'm afraid we can't approach it with an inflated sense of what we are actually offering, yes we're Man Utd but it's a caretaker role. It's going to be somebody with a bit to prove, that is absolutely obvious - why would someone in the peak of their career that's won loads recently and is without flaw take on an appointment where they're a caretaker for a few months. Just total nonsense. Top managers in their prime come with some kind of ego that they're the main man, they don't want to play second fiddle to Ten Hag and Poch. That's why you get someone that sees this as a shop window. Maybe they've cocked things up lately despite doing some good things, or maybe they haven't managed for a while.

If we can get a Rangnick or Valverde that are very experienced, creditable names we will have done a very solid job. I'd prefer the former but if he's unconvinced then we can't fanny around either, the sooner it's sorted the better chance we rectify our league form.

Sounds like we ate getting Jose back as thst description fits perfectly...

 

[Mainoldo]

I’d say most fans want a competent manager to navigate the team through to the end of the season if needed. I don’t remember the players hating him, one of his strengths is said to be his ability to manage personalities. Barca is a political club with numerous agendas from boardroom downwards.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....lona/2020/01/14/5e1dfafb46163f498e8b45dc.html

I understand the concept but let’s just get our permanent manager now. We need coaching from a totally different set up. The interim is just putting a new face to this current shambles.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

He looked ill at Newcastle, this job would finish him off.

Yep agreed. The last 4 managers apart from LVG aged a decade within their tenure.

 

[L1nk]

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Even more so when you figure we'll be wasting a year of Ronaldo

 

[Mainoldo]

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Even more so when you figure we'll be wasting a year of Ronaldo

Agree with this. It’s a disgrace.

 

[Devil may care]

So Rangnick, Rudi Garcia, Valverde and Lopewhatshisname are 4 of the interim candidates? Who's the 5th?

 

[UnsungHero]

I don't want an interim.

Ronaldo won't like it, and he and Mendes have some serious weight, regardless of whether that's right or not.

I think the club clearly want Pochettino, and will perhaps make an approach after tonight's game is over with?

 

[largelyworried]

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Even more so when you figure we'll be wasting a year of Ronaldo

You can rightly complain about the Board managing to end up in this mess. They should have done this before the international break for this very reason. But now that we're here, I think they're approaching it in the right way.

There isnt really a complete no brainer candidate around like Klopp and Tuchel who is a) out of work and b) undisputably has both the experience and talent to take over. Pochettino and Ten Hag are both in jobs, extracting them isn't straight forward. Even if our plan is to get one of them now, we certainly need a backup plan in case that proves impossible. Last thing we need is to spend 10 days trying to prise Poch out of PSG, only to find that's not possible and then we have to look for interims.