It's a strange one. Seems like the players were leaking yesterday that they'd be happy with Poch too, so I've no idea why some fans are dead set against him coming in ASAP to try and salvage our season.
I think it’s likely the fact that he has to play all 3 “superstars” every week when fit else Leonardo will fire him.
I think it has something to do assessing the manager room for growth. Poch seems like he can't grow significantly. Poch for the good he did for Spurs, he eventually failed to address the decline, and rebuild. He earned himself PSG job, but he's currently enjoying life there, and not showing the same ability to adapt to PSG like Tuchel did. The way Poch conduct himself has the aura of the underdog.
The poch hater are obvious trolls. They ignore every form of common sense. Most of them are the same people who taught Ole was the answer for United. I was one of the few that stated that Ole was a con artist. I can say and be quoted that if poch joins United, he will brings us to glory.Knew the Poch haters would be out in force after that - May actually be a lazier narrative that Ronaldo being the problem at United. It either takes a severe lack of critical thinking or wilful ignorance to think the issues with PSG lie with Pochettino.
Anyone who knows anything about Poch's previous sides can see that PSG's play style not his design. The most obvious staple of a Pochettino side is that he gets them to press with intensity. They'll run sides off the park. PSG tonight were as far away from that as any side I've seen. Their operation is clearly as much about appeasing the front three as it is about winning games, which makes sense given PSG's raison d'etre is building the brand and getting eyes on the product.
These issues were happening under Tuchel - they had a game at Anfield with similar problems which I specifically remember because Steve McManaman wouldn't shut the hell up about it on commentary. They've since signed the laziest player in football who's off the ball efforts make Neymar look like N'golo Kante and that has taken it to another level. I would bet anything Poch would rather not have Messi, but he can hardly say so both because his employer would sack him and his country may disown him.
*Note the Spurs side he inherited finished 20th in distance per game the season before he arrived and he instantly got them into the top three in that metric the following season.
Pochettino's sides run if nothing else and he knows he's on a hiding to nothing at PSG while he's being sabotaged by these egos and the need to placate them. I would pretty confidently say that PSG are done in this competition and I doubt Zidane or anyone else will be capable of saving them. They should definitely get a manager who's less reliant on a pressing game but I can't see any way they'll not get exposed by the Bayern's, City's and Liverpools.
Players have a natural inclination to press though. Pep buys players who he knows can press, or like, Mahrez buy in to his methods. For example, Cavani and Bruno are clearly better at pressing than Sancho, Greenwood, Rashford despite being older and being coached by the same people.
Hope we get Ten Hag
Yeah I feel like Pochettino would settle quicker as he has experience of the league, however can't get away from thinking Ten Hag has a higher ceiling than him which gives him the edge for meMate it's actually insane. TIFO football has gripped the souls of men, for an unproven manager on any PL level.
Poch has worked with a difficult board and done wonders. I feel Ten Haag is gonna need a few windows given the difference in structure at Ajax to Man United. I reckon Poch could do something quite quickly with a window and what we have now.
With Ronaldo scoring the 97th minute penalty to win it? Sound excellent, but a bit too predictable storyline, not that I'm gonna complain though
PSG is such a tough environment to succeed as seen by how well Tuchel has done since leaving there. Yes Pochettino may have hit his ceiling but not a complete Ten Hag fanboy so open to having my mind changed.
Sounds great. But he doesn't seem to be proving himself at PSG. They seem disjoint and less than the sum of their parts which is concerning.
What’s even more amazing is one of his biggest critics is a Spurs supporter. Barring one CL run in which good old Arry’s Stone Age tactics were eventually exposed, they were at best competing with Everton for “best of the rest”. There is now what is referred to as a Big 6 because of the work Poch did at that middling club. Also Harry Kane’s career trajectory changed because of Poch, but people only give managers credit for developing players when it suits their argument. To say Poch developed Kane is not a statement of opinion.
Tuchel hardly proved himself at PSG. Heck Ole got better of him in 18-19 season and we went toe to toe again last season with them. I don't think Poch fits the PSG bill, I doubt many managers would fare well there.
His spurs side from 2015 to 2018 werw fun to watch. I really enjoyed watching them play. I feel had levy backed him more he could have done even better. As I said people not rating poch is fine but to take away his good work at Spurs is weird.
My worry would be that when Spurs did back to him to go up a level he spent big money on Ndombele and Lo Celso. Spurs were pretty good to watch under him but he's quite functional as opposed to expansive from what I recall
Tuchel nearly won the CL so there's that. Let's see if Pochettino can get that far.
He did good work. No doubt about that.
This is a very big context the overall majority are missing. Tactically Solskjaer was absolutely woeful with his preparations etc.
thi is very true, I think people are overemphasizing this. Pochettino is a proven entity, ETH isn't, just like De Boer wasn't.
How is ETH not proven? He has proven his worth in biggest competition and with the club that didn't do anything for 20+ years in Europe.
That’s what I keep seeing on Twitter. I didn’t see the game but I hear that PSG’s front 3 barely defend at all…
How much defending do we get out of Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho?
All of them can be dropped off if they dont follow coach's instructions, PSG front 3 can't be dropped.
I just think it’s hard for him to implement his tactics when he knows he has to start the 3 superstars when none of them press and are playing like individuals.
It's not an entirely straight-forward comparison, as you'll have to include several factors - not least the level of the teams immediately below the two or three standout ones for the seasons in question.
Drop off for who? and they'll eventually get back to the starting XI because not in a million years we'll sell any of them in near time.
It's true and yet it's also their best shot at getting something out of this season.
Yeah, true. PSG is carried by their attack, same time it's hard for coach to set up vs strong teams as you want all 10 players to work hard.
None of them.have played for a manager that demands pressing from the front. I don't think they're the type that would refuse to when asked and furthermore, they aren't guaranteed starters.
a big fan of gli autogol...
its a bit different though. Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho are young players with a lot to proof. They can be coached into the right direction. Good luck coaching players with enormous egos like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. Their traits are cast in concrete a bit like Ronaldo is.
