Guardiola talks strike

[Beans]

"It should be the players and the managers all together and make a strike; just through words it's not going to be solved," Guardiola told a news conference on Thursday.

"For FIFA, the Premier League, the broadcasters, the business is more important than their welfare. The simplest example is all around the world they have five substitutions; here it's still three.

"Tell me one argument to take care of players' welfare than this one.

"OK, we don't play anymore until we solve that situation. Maybe then the people are going to pay attention."

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/man...er-league-player-strike-amid-welfare-concerns

Didn't see a thread, please delete if it's a repeat.

Rest of the quotes: "I don't think [a strike would happen] because we want to play, we want to continue. Make the people happy going to the stadium on the 26th, 27th, 29th, 31st [of December] and 1st [of January] and play games because we love to do that. I'm not saying there's a reason to make a strike. But when people say World Cups, European Cups, Carabao Cup semifinals over two legs, and FA Cups and the Premier League; more games and more games and less holidays.

"They need holidays. They need a rest for two or three weeks. And now we talk about welfare for players in that moment? No. It's a problem."

 

[Bubz27]

Strike when they earn that much? Pfft, don't make me laugh.

 

[Tarrou]

they already have the biggest advantage against their rivals during this period, what with having two top class players for every position

 

[Lemon Moon]

they already have the biggest advantage against their rivals during this period, what with having two top class players for every position

Title winning squad. I remember when we had that quality & depth

 

[Irrational.]

Pep has some nerve to talk about striking with the squad he’s got

 

[Withnail]

Pep has some nerve to talk about striking with the squad he’s got

He just looking for a little break like he had last year. They came after that a changed team and walked the league.

 

[stoinz]

I honestly agree with him. It is good for football too in terms of entertainment when schedules are less congested and players get more time to rest and recover.

 

[Scarecrow]

He’s absolutely right.

 

[Dancfc]

He just looking for a little break like he had last year. They came after that a changed team and walked the league.

Do they even need one this year? Haven't they won every league game bar one since the Liverpool draw?

 

[Red Royal]

Agree that clubs need a break, but most manager would get a reprimand for that kind of talk...Pep will be lauded by the media instead.

 

[Withnail]

Do they even need one this year? Haven't they won every league game bar one since the Liverpool draw?

Greedy Pep Guardiola is my idol isn't he?

 

[Tarrou]

Agree that clubs need a break, but most manager would get a reprimand for that kind of talk...Pep will be lauded by the media instead.

maybe Foden and Grealish could have a nap instead of going down the pub

 

[The Cat]

maybe Foden and Grealish could have a nap instead of going down the pub

 

[Powderfinger]

He just looking for a little break like he had last year. They came after that a changed team and walked the league.

In the six matches before their "little break," they got 14 points, had a goal difference of 11-1, and an XG difference of 13.75 - 2.3.

Their uptick in form happened about a month before the break. They just continued that form after the break.

 

[Withnail]

In the six matches before their "little break," they got 14 points, had a goal difference of 11-1, and an XG difference of 13.75 - 2.3.

Their uptick in form happened about a month before the break. They just continued that form after the break.

Really? Well, feck.

 

[youmeletsfly]

The balls on this prick when he can field a different 11 every game.

 

[Ayoba]

feck him, he's practically got 2 world class players for each position and billions to spend, no sympathy whatsoever from me!!

He does make a point about there being too much football though, its incessant at times and this stupid idea by wenger of having a world cup every 2 years is genuinely taking the piss.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Klopp was running the same crap last year and then proceeded to make one sub in the last 10 minutes in his next game.

 

[SER19]

Imagine how he'd feel if he didn't have a bench worth more than half a billion

Can put out a new team every week and mop the floor with likes of Norwich, then acts as if that absurd depth is a key part of strolling to title

 

[pcaming]

Strike when they earn that much? Pfft, don't make me laugh.

What does earning that much have to do with it? Such a poor argument towards it. Just cause NFL players earn so much we should ignore the brain damage issues and continue to let it slide?

I'm surprised so many people think Players should be run to the ground because they earn a massive wage.

 

[Bubz27]

What does earning that much have to do with it? Such a poor argument towards it. Just cause NFL players earn so much we should ignore the brain damage issues and continue to let it slide?

I'm surprised so many people think Players should be run to the ground because they earn a massive wage.

Hello pcaming, I'm sarcasm.

 

[Jippy]

In the six matches before their "little break," they got 14 points, had a goal difference of 11-1, and an XG difference of 13.75 - 2.3.

Their uptick in form happened about a month before the break. They just continued that form after the break.

That XG stat added considerable weight to your argument.

 

[Zen86]

To whinge about welfare, while being paid what he is, and by who

 

[Bebestation]

For me this is why English PL always struggled including the players. It really drains compared to the other leagues in terms of quantity and quality.

 

[RedCurry]

The five sub rule is absolute no brainer, at least for now when so many teams are being stretched thin. A winter break can be argued against because this is an opportunity to use the youth players. I am down for the academies playing an important role in deciding the PL title.

 

[90 + 5min]

"It should be the players and the managers all together and make a strike; just through words it's not going to be solved," Guardiola told a news conference on Thursday.

"For FIFA, the Premier League, the broadcasters, the business is more important than their welfare. The simplest example is all around the world they have five substitutions; here it's still three.

"Tell me one argument to take care of players' welfare than this one.

"OK, we don't play anymore until we solve that situation. Maybe then the people are going to pay attention."

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/man...er-league-player-strike-amid-welfare-concerns

Didn't see a thread, please delete if it's a repeat.

Rest of the quotes: "I don't think [a strike would happen] because we want to play, we want to continue. Make the people happy going to the stadium on the 26th, 27th, 29th, 31st [of December] and 1st [of January] and play games because we love to do that. I'm not saying there's a reason to make a strike. But when people say World Cups, European Cups, Carabao Cup semifinals over two legs, and FA Cups and the Premier League; more games and more games and less holidays.

"They need holidays. They need a rest for two or three weeks. And now we talk about welfare for players in that moment? No. It's a problem."

Without being sarcastic I can understand him and some players/managers about games in total. However, they do understand that they get so much paid because of all those games and publicity. Don’t want to play that much? No problem. Leave the money. Leave the sport. Go on vacation. Nobody is forced to be in football industry.
They already get paid to much for their job. They got special treatment during lockdown looking at other jobs and now they are talking about welfare.

 

[GMoore23]

He's full of shit. When we were allowed extra subs before, Hardly any of the managers used them.

 

[Tarrou]

He's full of shit. When we were allowed extra subs before, Hardly any of the managers used them.

it would be pretty amazing for City though, which is why he keeps moaning about it

 

[AltiUn]

Thought the title said "Guardiola talks shite".

 

[K Stand Knut]

I’m sorry but what a cnut he is!!!

Shut the feck up with your faux outrage as and when it suits you.

what a prick

 

[RUCK4444]

For me this is why English PL always struggled including the players. It really drains compared to the other leagues in terms of quantity and quality.

Yeah it’s a handicap for PL teams when competing in Europe when other leagues don’t have the same schedule.

 

[Amar__]

Strike when they earn that much? Pfft, don't make me laugh.

He just played his strongest team few days ago against the weakest team in the league and didn't rest one player. Same as Klopp.

I know it's a joke from other thread, but managers like Klopp and Pep and their competitivness is one of the main reason players are tired. Fergie would field different XI in two consecutive PL games, and he didn't have nowhere near strong squad as Pep does. Pretty sure last winter Klopp played Salah every time he could, even in pointless cup games.

I am not saying PL shouldn't have winter break, but if managers like Pep cared about players they could find a way to save them, easily.

 

[MalaysianRed7]

This is repulsive. It’s not even League 2 or National League players saying this, but Pep Guardiola, manager of Man City, who’s players earn on average close to £200k EVERY SINGLE WEEK. If it were lower league players on regular working class wages, then fair enough. But these guys are paid an exorbitant amount to fulfil their duties.

Oh well, he is Man City’s best ever manager. At least this is a valid reason for me to slate him. The cheek of those comments as he becomes a millionaire every 5 weeks.

 

[horsechoker]

Pep pictured at press conference

 

[JPRouve]

Looking at his lineups, Guardiola couldn't spot a striker to save his life.

 

[Stobzilla]

2 week break after a round of fixtures on New Year's Day, come back to the FA Cup 3rd round.

Scrap FA Cup replays, 1 leg League cup Semi Final and then we can all shut up about this once and for all. Christmas/New Years fixtures tradition retained and players get a rest.

 

[Mindhunter]

He is not wrong. Yes it sounds hypocritical if you consider the embarrassment of riches he has and the fact that his style of football will benefit from a mid-season break.

However, it is a fair point and not many influential personalities are making it at the moment. He is the best coach in England and it does hold weight coming from him. These are exceptional times and people need to be flexible but it feels like the authorities are more concerned with predictability and regulations than finding real solutions to this problem.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

He's right overall, but he's the worst person to make that point

 

[Red the Bear]

Always laugh when footballers act like some abused coal workers trying to unionize

These guys earn millions the best thing they can do is play the games to the best of their abilities and provide entertainment for the actual hard working lads that comprise most of their Fandom and base

 

[BuzzKillington]

There’s a few things in this for me.

• With corona and the Euros in the summer the players have played a lot with not too much break recently. With further covid enforced postponements like there is now, I can understand why managers and players would be wary of burn out in the near future and want a break.
• Klopps good point of needlessly putting two fixtures within 2 days of each other 26/28th does seem valid. I can understand why they the PL/Sky/BT would want the usual Boxing Day fixture then have another fixture on a bank holiday to maximise viewing figures and give us all some football, but that game on the 28th could quite easily have been moved to Wednesday night instead.
• European teams do theoretically get a break over Christmas which has given them a slight advantage in the past.
• However, a bit of me thinks footballers are paid extravagantly for what they do. And I suspect Pep wants even better perks for himself and footballers as a whole with things such as a two week holiday over Christmas, a luxury many ordinary working people don’t get. Jordan Henderson complaining about the mental well-being of players read as “waah i want to stay at home with my family for two weeks”. Which is fine, and is something a lot of people would want, however most people would accept that getting paid £100k per week means they accept the good with the bad and wouldn’t be spending their time moaning about their “mentally draining working conditions”.
• I don’t think it’s much to ask to get footballers to sacrifice their Christmas in exchange for the privileged position in society they hold, we as fans like our Christmas football and I don’t see why we should have to accept losing this, pandering to people who are already excessively pandered to
• In summary, the league need to make more effort to find some more rest time for players, get rid of the fecking league cup as one example. But pep can feck off with his two week break at Christmas. I like my Christmas football and I don’t want it to go.