Him leaving will free up money for a new player, it’s not worked out, time to move on for all parties
Pogba
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It’ll be interesting to see how United approach his last few months at the club, once he’s fit - do we use him as normal since he’s still a first team player that we’re paying a big salary, or do we give the time instead to someone potentially with a future at the club?
Or do we isolate him altogether to prevent risking the locker room morale?
Ole I think would’ve continued using him regardless, but Ralf might have a different approach, especially since he’s already spoken about only wanting players that want to be at United.
Or do we isolate him altogether to prevent risking the locker room morale?
Ole I think would’ve continued using him regardless, but Ralf might have a different approach, especially since he’s already spoken about only wanting players that want to be at United.
We've heard that one before.
As others have said, it hasn't worked, let him go and move one. Giving him a big new contract will be yet another expensive mistake.
That would be terrible. Thankfully that’s never happened so far.
Rooney?
He was clearly in decline when Moyes/Woodward gave him that crazy contract extension.
Pogba may not be in decline but his absences through injury are getting longer and more frequent.
Its not just a nice thing to say, its an observation from watching the games. His work rate is infectious and feeds into the rest of the team. One game earlier this season springs to mind against Atalanta, he comes on and completely changes the game. First half we got outworked, although it was a 60 odd min sub, when he came on it brought another level out of the rest of the players. Even Ronaldo was all over the pitch defending and tracking back at the end, Cavani turned the game round.
Unprofessional players, AWB banned for driving offences, Maguire pending court case, Martial does nothing and hides behind his agent, Pogba waste of a squad number(wont speak out against his agent), Fred stealing a living bar the last few games, Greenwood and his hotel incident. Not having a go at the squad but just offering examples.
To be fair I don’t think he should even be given til February as he’s been ‘in talks over a new contract’ for well over a year now so I’d give him the next couple of weeks then if he hasn’t agreed a new contract freeze him out of the first team and actively start looking for midfield reinforcements.
We’re linked with Frenkie De Jong, Boubacar Kamara and Amadou Haidara as well as a long standing interest in Declan Rice as well as having McTominay, Fred, VDB, Mejbri and Garner. We’ve got Ronaldo, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Diallo, Elanga and Shoretire in the attacking spots too so we can do without Pogba much like we’ve had too since the first month or so of the season anyway.
FFS you’re willing to throw other players under the bus for non football related issues to stick up for a guy who’s done next to nothing and returned late for the start of the season, asked to play for Uruguay and miss most of the start of the season, has been injured for months and would seemingly (been reported numerous times in only 18 months) play for Barcelona or Bocca Juniors.
Yeah Cavani is the ultimate United player.
The offer should just be pulled, it's ridiculous we are offering to make a player is nowhere near the best in the league one of the best paid in europe
I forget the order. Thing is he was saying what a lot of fans were saying at various times. Yet he is getting so much hatred now.
I'm probably wrong but I think Pogba wanting to leave is about no progress as a club rather than money. His performances have been raised and dipped accordingly to high points and low points at the club.
I’d be happy if we pulled the offer too as I’ve had enough of his hit and miss (mostly miss) performances and his cnut of an agent whilst never saying he hasn’t said what his agents says but the club aren’t going to pull the offer just like that unfortunately so I’d want them to tell him “sign within the next couple of weeks or we’ll freeze you out of the first team for the rest of your contract or sell you to whoever will buy you in January” and hope we can convince someone to pay a fee.
If he hasn't signed by December 31st, put him up for sale at a million.
Free tin of beans
Free tin of beans
I made one observation nothing more nothing less.
Never said anything to suggest hes the ultmate United player, hes scored 17 goals for us considering hes hardly kicked a ball for the team and has a better goals per min than any of the rest of the strikers for last season in the league, finished as our 3rd top scorer for the season.
All these non-footballing issues relate to poor performances on the pitch, Maguire has not been the same since it and has been woeful this season even though last 2 seasons he was good.
Didnt Cavani agree to extend his contract this season rather than leave and go to Boca Juniors? Yes hes said he wants to play for them but he had the opportunity to do it and chose to stay.
This one is dead in the water.
And now seemingly Madrid dont want him, even for free, if you believe Paper talk (Marca). Think he might sign the extension as Im not sure theres many teams that can afford his wages unless PSG go for him.
is he value for money..
why would anyone in his position refuse the contract rather than leave it on the table? Contrary to people’s belief’s there are multiple factors he has to consider.
So nobody wants him? 
from world Cup winning superstar to benchwarmer for Fred
from world Cup winning superstar to benchwarmer for FredI dont blame him for not signing the contract yet, uncertainty with the manager is one reason. Team not in great form or position in the table, although its improving game by game. We do have a squad capable of challenging for the title we are just missing a couple of players. Im not Pogbas biggest admirer, too inconsistent, perhaps with the new formation and being pushed up higher up the pitch he can provide more, his vision and passing are fantastic.
I don't like him and the circus that surrounds him. He doesn't give enough to the team on the field and that's the bottom line.
I hope he leaves and I don't care what he does at any other team. He doesn't do it at United and thats all that should matter
I hope he leaves and I don't care what he does at any other team. He doesn't do it at United and thats all that should matter
Problem here is that the higher ups at United are so obsessed with money and narratives so they will be desperate to keep him. However it will be a disaster from both the financial and football perspective because Pogba will never have the discipline to hold down a position and not skew the balance of the team and no one will buy him from us if he renews so we will just be throwing millions down the drain for more of the same.
He has never had the discipline and commitment to apply himself on the pitch consistently so in a couple of years when his decline starts it will be more painful to watch than the Rooney one - at least Rooney had the desire and fighting spirit. Let him go to an environment that is less demanding and avoid making another costly mistake, imagine negotiating Bruno's new contract with Pogba earning £500k a week whilst vacationing in Dubai for a 1/4 of the season! The club should remember what happened with Sanchez and call off all negotiations.
He has never had the discipline and commitment to apply himself on the pitch consistently so in a couple of years when his decline starts it will be more painful to watch than the Rooney one - at least Rooney had the desire and fighting spirit. Let him go to an environment that is less demanding and avoid making another costly mistake, imagine negotiating Bruno's new contract with Pogba earning £500k a week whilst vacationing in Dubai for a 1/4 of the season! The club should remember what happened with Sanchez and call off all negotiations.
Pogba was grinding and training so hard till he injured himself. Guess it's not fated for him to get another contract here.
How long is he out injured for? Genuinely interested to see what Ralf does with him.
Think the end of January is the expected return date, hes back from Dubai so another couple of weeks until hes back training and then another couple to get match fit. Although could be sped up by injuries or covid lay offs.
In an ideal world he follows Martial out the door next month. Can't stand lazy fools like them.
Cheers.
I reckon if he keeps his head down and works then Ralf will pick him (at least for the squads). If he gets his agent to mouth off about anything, he'll not play again.
We're silly to renew to be honest. Just let him be a free agent or take a huge wage cut here. Not one season did he live up to his wages.
We can but hope,
I hope he leaves in January with his low morality and bad influence
If its true Madrid dont want him then he will either have to show his worth to us or other potential suitors and he might be what we need to finish the season off with silverware.
Nailed on for PSG.
We all know how much they love a freebie. Raiola already has a couple of clients there (Donnarumma and Verrati) and the club will love the marketing possibilities of having the two poster boys of France's World Cup Winning squad to show off. And to top it off, they're one of only a couple of clubs that would be willing to pay their extortionate demands.
I'd be amazed if he goes anywhere else.
We all know how much they love a freebie. Raiola already has a couple of clients there (Donnarumma and Verrati) and the club will love the marketing possibilities of having the two poster boys of France's World Cup Winning squad to show off. And to top it off, they're one of only a couple of clubs that would be willing to pay their extortionate demands.
I'd be amazed if he goes anywhere else.
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As much as I like the player, the club needs to have some self respect and pull the plug.
And I hope we don't waste minutes on him.
And I hope we don't waste minutes on him.
It is inevitable he come back into the team and shines under Rangnick then leaves for free to PSG.
That would be my guess too. I won't regret losing Pogba for free, neither will Ralf it seems. Wish him all the best, but it is time for both parties to move on, unless he starts working his socks off and finally becomes a consistent top player that we all hoped we were getting at the time.
If he signs for PSG then it will be indicative that offers were thin on the ground given he’s said in the past that he’d never play for them.
Personally I think he’ll sign back on with us because he won’t get another offer as good as ours.
Hopefully Ralf tells him, sign the deal or you wont play while running down your contract and we wish you all the best. We cant give him game time when we can start bedding in new players or formations to prepare for him leaving. I know theres other factors at play for his own decision but no business can run with around 9% of your starting line up potentially leaving, the uncertainty alone is distracting.
Even if he tells Ralf in private hes leaving and at least let Ralf make an informed decision on his team selections.
Even if he tells Ralf in private hes leaving and at least let Ralf make an informed decision on his team selections.
Italian clubs love a freebie too, Juve signed Ramsey & Rabiot on a free, Inter signed Di Vrij & Calhanoglu, Barca got Depay, Eric Garcia, Aguero on a free, Madrid got Alaba on a free, these are fairly recent examples, it happens a lot everywhere.
The point is any top player in free agency will be in high demand by top clubs.
If he signs for PSG it just seems like a new Galatico era at a new club.
I hope it ends with the same result.
I hope it ends with the same result.
The Athletic claim that our offer to him is £400k a week.