He will come running if we offered him the job I reckon
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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is that your way of saying yes then? You're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is shit? Thanks for clearing that up and good luck with your promotion
I get the impression from his post match interview on SKY that he couldn't put his finger on why we couldn't beat Newcastle, that's all I am saying.
It's Ole's fault Phelan's fault McKenna's fault Carrick's fault anybody but the players' fault.
Rangnick was never the messiah. But he still deserves every chance to show what he can do.
Rangnick was never the messiah. But he still deserves every chance to show what he can do.
He seemed uncomfortable but at least he didn't throw the players under the bus when the interviewer brought up the attitude point.
Every manager at this level will be able to see what went wrong. Sometimes you just cannot change anything if you don't have the tools available to you.
I thought that he was having a pop at Telles too but when I rewatched it he was actually moaning at the linesman for not noticing that the ball had nicked off a Newcastle United player so it should have been our throw not theirs.
He had all the tools needed to beat Newcastle
This must be a major concern at the club. City and Liverpool look like there are contesting a two-horse race whilst Chelsea will probably get 3rd (maybe 2nd if the African Cup of nations messes Liverpool up) but recently both Tottenham and Arsenal seem to have got themselves into some form.
I know Utd. have games in hand, but its much better to have the points on the board, especially in these most difficult (Covid) times.
If Utd. don't get top-4 will Rangnick still get the 24 month consutancy job, does anyone know what his contract details promised him?
You'd think so. But we've seen this time and time again in the last 10 years. We've had managers who has won everything and yet failed with the good players they've had here. We haven't had a TEAM since Fergie retired. Good players, yes. But not a team.
Perhaps an impression, but people may have a skewed opinion considering the fact that Thomas Tuchel operated immediate and effective changes at Chelsea. And besides, Chelsea under Lampard were as tumescent as we are now.
Either way, he needs to walk the talk now about heads rolling because we have been promised this and that for 8 years without seeing the actual purge being put forward.
Our passing today was horrific. I lost count of the number of times we gave the ball away cheaply in defence and midfield today.
Even when we had time on the ball we ended up punting long balls from back to front with no other plan. We need to work on this massively in the next few weeks, even if it means dropping Fernandes. He isn't performing in this system.
Weirdly one player who is actually good at the give and goes, Sancho, started on the bench. It's high time we sacrifice underperforming players for some of the younger ones if things carry on as they are.
Even when we had time on the ball we ended up punting long balls from back to front with no other plan. We need to work on this massively in the next few weeks, even if it means dropping Fernandes. He isn't performing in this system.
Weirdly one player who is actually good at the give and goes, Sancho, started on the bench. It's high time we sacrifice underperforming players for some of the younger ones if things carry on as they are.
I expect us not to immediately start playing much worse than we did under the previous interim coach. Must have high standards or something.
From the post match :
"biggest problem was the mistakes we made. Even when we scored the equaliser we were not really controlling the game and taking the wrong decisions.
"We can do better, I know the players can, but we have to do it. We shouldn't look for excuses - we need to be better and get more physical. I was not happy with our performance with the ball or when we had to press. It's about what kind of energy mode we play with the ball and without the ball."
"biggest problem was the mistakes we made. Even when we scored the equaliser we were not really controlling the game and taking the wrong decisions.
"We can do better, I know the players can, but we have to do it. We shouldn't look for excuses - we need to be better and get more physical. I was not happy with our performance with the ball or when we had to press. It's about what kind of energy mode we play with the ball and without the ball."
I rate him but his career as a manager tells me that he should stay as a manager only until May, whatever the results are until then. We need 1) proven top manager or 2)potentially top manager like ten Hag. Rangnick is neither, as great footballing brain as he probably is. With squad we have top 4 should be doable but if he can't achieve it then it'll be a failure.
We'll be competing with Tottenham, Arsenal and perhaps West Ham for top 4. Though Tottenham have great manager and don't play in Europe in 2nd half of season, just like Arsenal, we should be getting that 4th spot with the squad we've got.
First half against Palace was encouraging. Everything since not but Rangnick has enough time to improve them.
We'll be competing with Tottenham, Arsenal and perhaps West Ham for top 4. Though Tottenham have great manager and don't play in Europe in 2nd half of season, just like Arsenal, we should be getting that 4th spot with the squad we've got.
First half against Palace was encouraging. Everything since not but Rangnick has enough time to improve them.
To be fair to Ralf, what he did at half-time were the sort of decisive and brave substitutions we never saw under Ole. McT as a one man central midfield with Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Bruno and Sancho all on the pitch at once was an absolute baller move. And we still managed to finish with 70% possession.
The problem he badly needs to solve is getting a tune out of our attacking players. So long as Rashford, Ronaldo, Bruno, Greenwood and Sancho are putting in such abysmal individual performances we’re going to find it very hard to score goals.
The problem he badly needs to solve is getting a tune out of our attacking players. So long as Rashford, Ronaldo, Bruno, Greenwood and Sancho are putting in such abysmal individual performances we’re going to find it very hard to score goals.
I’m glad that he’s going to be here for two more years and he’ll hopefully have it in for quite a few of these players. Their time is up. The players are the root of the problem at this club. Not any system or any manager.
Dont get me wrong I do get LvG vibes but you can't judge someone when they've just joined the club and had most of the squad out due to COVID. I believe we only got back to training on Thursday/Friday which isn't enough time to assess all the players fitness / any tactical advise you gave them.
Onwards and upwards.
Yeah there is. That reason being Ronaldo and Rashford putting in consistently diabolical individual performances since Rangnick took over (Sancho and Greenwood no better).
He has a completely different style and approach to our previous manager, who had no clue and left the players uncoached for years. Good luck getting this mess sorted in a short space of time. Ole brought back the United culture way apparently, i see the rotten attitude of the players to not put in a shift at least. Ole assembled a squad of individuals, i have never seen a worse 'top' team. A bunch of individuals that cant be bothered and played like they were assembled last week. Rangnick has to start with the basics with most of them, as they are braindead at this point.
Yeah, I gave him sh*t in the match day for bringing on Matic, but he must've thought Newcastle were ready to sit back and see out the game. And we did dominate for awhile...until Newcastle found their second wind, and overran us again.
Agree with the second part. Say what you want about Ole, but he got Bruno and Rashford firing. I hope Ralf can too, for our sake as well as his.
Ole literally did that almost every other game; abandon midfield and throw on as many attackers as possible.
It's too soon to say but I hope when Ralf says he wants control, he recognises the need to play possession football from the back and have width on the pitch.
He may be overestimating the tactical flexibility of our players and underestimating the high bottom level of PL clubs where you can't just dominate the middle of the pitch through pressing and vertical movement alone.
We should be expecting a slightly improvement each game. From Palace game to Newcastle, have we shown any sign of improvement? The answer is no. He's only interim manager and if it takes 6 months to make it work then by that time his contract term would have been expired. If he's our permanent manager, I wouldn't be too worried right now as there are plenty of times.
The changes he made at half time were 2 of the 3 possible right moves.
It's just a shame he didn't have the balls to make that call for the starting 11.
Ronaldo and Rashford probably don't deserve to start on current form. Neither does Fred. If any of those 3 start the next game then I don't feel Ralf is going to stick to his principles.
If Ralf isn't going to make big calls he's in the wrong hotseat.
Looking forward to the next game now. Hopefully he goes back to the drawing board with 4 games lessons learnt.
It's just a shame he didn't have the balls to make that call for the starting 11.
Ronaldo and Rashford probably don't deserve to start on current form. Neither does Fred. If any of those 3 start the next game then I don't feel Ralf is going to stick to his principles.
If Ralf isn't going to make big calls he's in the wrong hotseat.
Looking forward to the next game now. Hopefully he goes back to the drawing board with 4 games lessons learnt.
Well as i said between that game and this we have had COVID running a muck through the team
I know it's only been three games but he's done nothing to convince my doubts about him. At least it's only six months but this gamble only works if it guarantees Ten Haag. Otherwise, I am at odds why we didn't go for Conte on an 18 month contract.
Bruno has given the ball away 56 times in his last two games…all our attacking players outside of Cavani today have been been truly abject the last few games.
The reason we didn't score 2 goals today is because our manager's system doesn't suit Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, while it suits Carrick more as Sancho got 2 goals, Rashford got an assist while Ronaldo got 3 goals in 3 games.
Even Ole knew Rashford or Greenwood wasn't an 8 or hybrid 10. Get your fingur out of your fecking German ass and stop playing square pegs in round holes.
All the analysis and thought...all for what?
This is a forward heavy team, Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho. Leaving 5 players for 2 positions is asinine.
And you're playing a 9 (Greenwood) as a 10 next to Bruno. Unforgivable. He went against his own beliefs as Sancho and Bruno stated as the 10s, which are much better than a Bruno and striker play like Greenwood.
Adapt to the players you have available.
Unacceptable today from Rangnick to the players.
All the analysis and thought...all for what?
This is a forward heavy team, Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho. Leaving 5 players for 2 positions is asinine.
And you're playing a 9 (Greenwood) as a 10 next to Bruno. Unforgivable. He went against his own beliefs as Sancho and Bruno stated as the 10s, which are much better than a Bruno and striker play like Greenwood.
Adapt to the players you have available.
Unacceptable today from Rangnick to the players.
It wasn't one CM. Bruno was playing as CM. The sort of thing he did at RBL with Sabitzer . Wanted someone who can pass through ball from deep .
You will see this very often going forward against opponents who will sit back.
Wasn't Sancho starting to come good though, no need to drop him I felt. Top class player, needs games not rest unlike ronaldo, and Greenwood who I don't personally rate,yet.
Lots of teams have
Training were back 7 days ago mate and we weren't the only one had covid. Conte didn't let Liverpool running a muck on them after they had the outbreak.
Did Newcastle?
Also how many clubs have had their games called off? You can't say team x and y have had COVID. You have to compare it to clubs that have had training suspended and most of their squad out. Add to that we have a new manager in the mix - probably hard to convey your points when no ones around
Which wasn’t Newcastle
You're right. I mean, people I know have been recovering months after they caught COVID but footballers shouldn't be the same because... umm... oh yeah... they get paid a lot.
Right, so it's manager's responsibility for picking majority players who haven't recovered fully from COVID to start today.
It's a respiratory disease. Playing like that and making abject decisions or errant passes aren't an excuse. United have played worse every match since Ralf has taken over. Today was unacceptable. They all didn't get Covid, that's a fact. Being in protocol doesn't absolve you from making stupid ass decisions.
I like his honesty in his interviews. He's clearly not one to sugarcoat a situation.
Bit concerning that the players don't look motivated. That's the minimum you'd expect to see when a new manager comes in.
Has been unlucky that covid has interrupted his start as he needs to get more time on the training ground.
Has been unlucky that covid has interrupted his start as he needs to get more time on the training ground.
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