Neville confirms what we knew all along

[DWelbz19]

It's like rappers who sneak diss with subliminals, if you aren't gonna say names don't talk shit as it casts a guessing net over a certain set of players, especially when you use the term brands.

Back to back like I’m Zidane Madrid 17-18

 

[DWelbz19]

Stuff like this is what worries me about the potential of someone like Ten Hag. If you get that man in, actually give him the signings he needs to implement his philosophy and give him the time to do so, we should be alright.

But I just know the second things get a bit bumpy or we have a dodgy result, the usual suspects (because let’s be real we’re not selling all of them) are going to be leaking about how his command of English isn’t great, about the video analysis being too strict, about him not utilising squad players etc etc.

Proper cursed chalice of a role to take over our club right now.

 

[Fortitude]

What's the purpose if he doesnt name any of the players.

To confirm that it is indeed happening and is not a figment of fans' imagination.

 

[dal]

As if Neville doesn’t talk to Carrick, Fletcher, Ronaldo, Phelan et al.

It’s true that journalists probably do tell him how they have been briefed but to say he speaks to know one inside the club is bollocks.

 

[dal]

What's the purpose if he doesnt name any of the players.

He’s trying to be a television manager, players who are doing it are probably laughing at him.

 

[Dans]

Singing Newcastle's praises while sticking the boot in to our players... Good man Gary.

There's not much in this in any case. We start putting away our chances, get a couple of wins and nobody will be talking about this.

A couple of wins will gloss over the disaster that has been United since the Ferguson retired under the useless Glazers? I don't think so. Clearly something is rotten at United - and not only our owners. We have players who give less than 100%, often. Wholesale changes are needed - bring through the youth. We are not going anywhere fast with this group. We need hungry players, not complacent ones.

 

[izec]

Stuff like this is what worries me about the potential of someone like Ten Hag. If you get that man in, actually give him the signings he needs to implement his philosophy and give him the time to do so, we should be alright.

But I just know the second things get a bit bumpy or we have a dodgy result, the usual suspects (because let’s be real we’re not selling all of them) are going to be leaking about how his command of English isn’t great, about the video analysis being too strict, about him not utilising squad players etc etc.

Proper cursed chalice of a role to take over our club right now.

He will get thrown under the bus as soon as things start to get a bit difficult.

 

[Dans]

He did give a hint indicating its the players with massive pr teams and those out with excuses and apologies at a drop of a hat.

With that information in mind its definitely rashford, maguire, shaw and lingard.

Not our highly paid frenchman?

 

[Real Name]

He’s trying to be a television manager, players who are doing it are probably laughing at him.

Yeah I mean this thread has turned into - players I dont like are probably at it - sort of thing.

 

[VidaRed]

Not our highly paid frenchman?

I haven't seen him making excuses or apologizing to fans.

 

[romufc]

Not our highly paid frenchman?

It wouldn't be Pogba cause he doesnt like the British press anyway.

If you actually look at the stories that have come out, Lingard and Rashford are prime candidates.

Lingard's team mates believe he should start? hmmm I wonder who would say this
All the talk about different training methods - team selections, only one player now that doesn't play.

Its pretty obvious Lingard is up there.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I doubt it's Shaw personally. Unless he's some Double agent in this conspiracy.

Literally came out the other day saying the unrest was not true.

Also doubt it's rashford, doesn't seem the type to me. Can believe its lingard and Henderson for sure. People who have (in their head) reason to be unhappy. Not even sure maguire would be involved but maybe he is.

It's as likely to be Rashford as the next man. Any time he was out of form (which has been constant the last 18 months) stories start to leak about his injuries. Now he's come out and declared gimself injury free those excuses don't rub anymore so the next best thing would be to blame the training, player unrest etc etc.

Looking at it clinically those excuses could come from half the squad as a way of taking away the spotlight of how bad they're actually performing. The squad is full of cnuts who don't want to take responsibility for how bad they're actually playing and would rather look for excuses than face up to their own performances. Very unlikeable squad we've managed to put together.

 

[Jericho]

For me this was the worst kept secret. Player power at the club has been out of control for years now and it's genuinely sickening. Someone needs to get this under control... the club need to bring someone in and back them against the players 100%. You can't have the tail wagging the dog.

And the worst thing about it all is that it's player power from a bunch of really shit players.

Someone needs to start knocking heads together. Get Keane in there.

 

[MUFC OK]

I've known for a while that it's Lingard and Henderson.

 

[Withnail]

A couple of wins will gloss over the disaster that has been United since the Ferguson retired under the useless Glazers? I don't think so. Clearly something is rotten at United - and not only our owners. We have players who give less than 100%, often. Wholesale changes are needed - bring through the youth. We are not going anywhere fast with this group. We need hungry players, not complacent ones.

Nope I'm not saying that but it's all a storm in a tea cup. It's the usual sensationalist shite by Neville. The fact that he starts off gushing about Newcastle, the new owners blah blah blah just makes a mockery of the whole thing.

Nothings ever as bad as it appears and wholesale changes are rarely needed. Performances have been decent and we've created enough chances to win the last three games. If we scraped three wins he wouldn't be talking about it.

Besides Ralf is interim so there's only so much he can do. If there are a few bad apples then let the new manager review and get rid in the Summer.

 

[Withnail]

I've known for a while that it's Lingard and Henderson.

If that's the case then it's really not worth talking about. No one's going to miss either of them.

 

[11101]

I've known for a while that it's Lingard and Henderson.

I think Lingard is spot on. The leaks dried up when he was at West Ham, and they have really hit a new level these last few days since he had the public spat with Rangnick. I've wanted him out of the club for years. I'd back the club 100% if they sacked him, outright terminated his contract and stated why. Make a statement to the rest of the team.

Henderson, does he have the clout to say anything? We still had all these leaks when he was out at Sheffield.

 

[TheReligion]

Brexit FC

What does that even mean? That they voted to leave the EU?

 

[Zlatattack]

Nothing wrong with that

Unless your a Tory ****

 

[Classical Mechanic]

He did give a hint indicating its the players with massive pr teams and those out with excuses and apologies at a drop of a hat.

With that information in mind its definitely rashford, maguire, shaw and lingard.

He doesn't give a hint that it's players with big PR teams. He's saying in general terms that players today have big PR teams. Only Rashford has a more notable PR team than any of the other players and that's because of his political activism.

 

[AndySmith1990]

I can guess a few of the culprits, as we all can. But whatever. Whoever is causing unrest and drama needs to be shown the door, simple as that. I've absolutely no patience or sympathy towards any of our players at this point and will be fully be the manager when they next try to throw him under the bus, whether that's Ralf or the next man.

 

[Mainoldo]

Its mad how many of our players are seriously unlikeable.

Funny that. Neville said he didn’t like the other team.

 

[3KDré]

Lingard seems like the most likely to have called him Ted Lasso, it seems like that would be his kind of humour.

I doubt it’s Pogba. You can say what you want about him but I’ve never seen him not show for the ball in this team for example.

 

[Laurencio]

He would never do it, but if he does know he needs to name these absolute wankers and out them.

It's most likely Lingard's brother.

It is surprising Luckhurst keeps using him as a source - basically outed him with the whole " Players are upset about Lingard not playing". The club was fools for not sending Lingard to Newcastle. I don't think Lingard is necessarily purposefully disruptive, but there's a clear pattern of someone close to him spreading negative rumours and being "a source close to the squad".

We had the occasional leak in 2020, mostly Raiola's PR team, but it was fairly quiet and harmonious at that time. It has also gotten noticeably worse after Lingard was denied a move on transfer deadline day.

Now don't get me wrong, there is a fair share of PR teams handling brands as well - but so many of these incredibly negative leaks indicate little to no strategic planing or benefit for any given player.

 

[RaddyRed]

Stuff like this is what worries me about the potential of someone like Ten Hag. If you get that man in, actually give him the signings he needs to implement his philosophy and give him the time to do so, we should be alright.

But I just know the second things get a bit bumpy or we have a dodgy result, the usual suspects (because let’s be real we’re not selling all of them) are going to be leaking about how his command of English isn’t great, about the video analysis being too strict, about him not utilising squad players etc etc.

Proper cursed chalice of a role to take over our club right now.

This is where I am right now. I want Ten Hag, but he would be be the wrong appointment with this current group of players as they hold all the power and would look down at him for only managing in the Dutch league.

I think the club will go for Poch to appease the players, whole situation is a massive mess.

 

[pratyush_utd]

Man utd bit starts at 15:38

Take a pick:
-lingard
-maguire
-henderson
-shaw
-rashford

Its definitely one of these.

My pick is Henderson. And Lingard close second. And then Shaw.

Maguire is the only one that i dont think will leak it as he is the captain. Will reflect quite poorly on him. Rashford has a social profile and this will reflect poorly if it is discovered that he is leaking the team line up.

 

[Zlatattack]

I'd take another 5 years of being "a work in progress" if we can clear out these sorts of players. Not fussed where we are in the table, as long as all the guys in the team are playing to the best of their ability for the shirt. Start with that and trophies will follow.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Singing Newcastle's praises while sticking the boot in to our players... Good man Gary.

There's not much in this in any case. We start putting away our chances, get a couple of wins and nobody will be talking about this.

Totally disagree.
This bunch of players are a bad bunch one way or another.

Gary is right.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Its definitely one of these.

My pick is Henderson. And Lingard close second. And then Shaw.

Maguire is the only one that i dont think will leak it as he is the captain. Will reflect quite poorly on him. Rashford has a social profile and this will reflect poorly if it is discovered that he is leaking the team line up.

fecking Henderson and he's done the square root of fcuk all

 

[Ayoba]

Who? I want names

 

[MUFC OK]

I think Lingard is spot on. The leaks dried up when he was at West Ham, and they have really hit a new level these last few days since he had the public spat with Rangnick. I've wanted him out of the club for years. I'd back the club 100% if they sacked him, outright terminated his contract and stated why. Make a statement to the rest of the team.

Henderson, does he have the clout to say anything? We still had all these leaks when he was out at Sheffield.

Would absolutely love to see this. I think he's a nasty piece of work.

Henderson is close to people in the media, notice how there was clamour for him to get the number 1 spot.

 

[LARulz]

Lingard and Henderson almost definitely. Martial I could imagine being one before

I can't see it being Maguire as he plays all the time still and he must be more nervous of a new manager coming in and telling him to get lost. Shaw I still doubt a bit as he plays and does his part

My not really mentioned guess is also AWB

 

[DomesticTadpole]

It wouldn't be Pogba cause he doesnt like the British press anyway.

If you actually look at the stories that have come out, Lingard and Rashford are prime candidates.

Lingard's team mates believe he should start? hmmm I wonder who would say this
All the talk about different training methods - team selections, only one player now that doesn't play.

Its pretty obvious Lingard is up there.

Pogba was out of the country while some of these stories were leaked.

 

[Traub]

I don't see how it's Maguire, as he has a pathetic PR team - he gets absolutely slaughtered and laughed at every week. Pogba doesn't give a feck about United anymore so don't think he cares.

An obvious one that hasn't been mentioned is Ronaldo, but that goes with his media presence.

 

[Judge Red]

This is like one of those murder mysteries where every single person is a credible suspect. Like every murder mystery it needs a good twist at the end.

It’s Fergie. Fergie is the saboteur.

 

[MancBorg]

For me this was the worst kept secret. Player power at the club has been out of control for years now and it's genuinely sickening. Someone needs to get this under control... the club need to bring someone in and back them against the players 100%. You can't have the tail wagging the dog.

100%

I have for a long time blamed Ole for dodging big decisions: why is pogo still here and leaving on a free? Either he signs or is sold for whatever money we can get - pandemic didnt help but make the decision. Same for Lingard. Why are Hendo and David still at the club? It's obviously one or the other or there will be unrest.

My biggest concern is that these were board level decisions and that our board are so clueless that they've walked into this with their eyes open and that they are at fault for this current predicament where the lunatics are running the asylum.

Whoever the next manager is, he will be in the same position unless the board back him 100%. He says we need to get rid of our players who are little more than commercial assets then thats what we do. I mean, they bent over backwards to allow Moyes to dismantle the club, why not someone who isn't talking about sacking an incredibly successful staff and letting highly decorated players leave...?

If they dont sort it out we need to pull out the old lower league favourite "saaaaack the board....."

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I don't see how it's Maguire, as he has a pathetic PR team - he gets absolutely slaughtered and laughed at every week. Pogba doesn't give a feck about United anymore so don't think he cares.

An obvious one that hasn't been mentioned is Ronaldo, but that goes with his media presence.

So who was leaking stories when Ronaldo wasn't here? This is a long standing problem.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Singing Newcastle's praises while sticking the boot in to our players... Good man Gary.

There's not much in this in any case. We start putting away our chances, get a couple of wins and nobody will be talking about this.

Yeah of course, I mean it's worked so well over the last 8 odd years.

 

[Smores]

As some above have said I'd be fairly sure most of this comes from sources close to the players e.g family and PR teams.

Players who are clocked out don't care enough to act in a professional manner so here we are. Solution is to offload them as soon as possible.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I don't see how it's Maguire, as he has a pathetic PR team - he gets absolutely slaughtered and laughed at every week. Pogba doesn't give a feck about United anymore so don't think he cares.

An obvious one that hasn't been mentioned is Ronaldo, but that goes with his media presence.

There's little motivation for Maguire, Shaw and Rashford to be leaking. They're all playing under Ralf. Players with motivation are Henderson and Bailly. Both are known to be unhappy with not playing and neither were under Ole and neither are under Ralf.

Lingard is leaving so his only motivation would be spite as he's got no investment in who the next manager is.

Pogba and Ronaldo could feasibly want to influence who the next manager is.

If I had to pick one it would be Henderson.